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Phase 20; - Zelda [Knocked Out]
 
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Post #211: 17th Apr 2012 10:33 PM 
It's really just me, ublazrob, Wikey and Zelda who haven't been cleared in one way or another, and I know I'm not scum.

It is possible that Raking skewed the results of the question but I doubt it. If we want to use remaining questions to oust scum we should ask stuff like "Can (list of names minus one person) all escape/win together?".
 
   
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Post #212: 17th Apr 2012 10:34 PM 
Yes, I need a question based on your system. Mal, hook us up with some questions. I'll also be asking them the clever way of asking what the other guard would say and then inverting the answer, so I'll know that I have a true answer.
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Post #213: 17th Apr 2012 10:34 PM 
I would also not put Raking's name in a list in one of those questions just in case his role is messing with the results.
 
   
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Post #214: 17th Apr 2012 10:36 PM 
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Randolph also kinda sacrificed his life. I dont think a bad guy would go ALL IN like that for his whole game on a challenge purely based on luck.

His "prisoner" role also fits the last game vanilla role. I dont think he knew that since he didnt play last time.

No that isn't true. Willis could have told him that the neutral role in the last game was to be a prisoner because otherwise things wouldn't be fair in this game. :)
 
   
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Post #215: 17th Apr 2012 10:36 PM 
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I would also not put Raking's name in a list in one of those questions just in case his role is messing with the results.


since my jeffrey must be dead.
id say take zelda's name out too (just for shits sake.)

but give me something to ask, and to which guard.
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Post #216: 17th Apr 2012 10:36 PM 
I think we should use a question to clear Pete, seeing as his clearing of the others depend on him not being scum.
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Post #217: 17th Apr 2012 10:37 PM 
Randolph, all depends on what Bagshot and Happy get back before we can try and narrow it down further :)
 
   
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Post #218: 17th Apr 2012 10:37 PM 
Yeh take Zelda out too since we're knocking her out anyway.

Also when we do get a "yes" we can ask another question with Raking's name in just to be positive.
 
   
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Post #219: 17th Apr 2012 10:38 PM 
Happy @ 17/4/2012 21:36
Malarkey @ 17/4/2012 9:30
Randolph also kinda sacrificed his life. I dont think a bad guy would go ALL IN like that for his whole game on a challenge purely based on luck.

His "prisoner" role also fits the last game vanilla role. I dont think he knew that since he didnt play last time.

No that isn't true. Willis could have told him that the neutral role in the last game was to be a prisoner because otherwise things wouldn't be fair in this game. :)


Did he tell you about the vanilla role last game? :P
 
   
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Post #220: 17th Apr 2012 10:38 PM 
Yes he did. :)
 
   
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Post #221: 17th Apr 2012 10:41 PM 
We don't really need to ask any more questions about the key (other than whether or not someone has it) because it should already be narrowed down to 9 blocks (less really since there are empty blocks). We have 6 questions so:

1. Clear everyone aside from Wikey (and Raking)
2. Clear everyone except ??? (and Raking)
3. Clear everyone except ??? (and Raking)
4. Clear everyone except whichever one of those is scum
5. Ask if someone is holding the key
6. ???
 
   
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Post #222: 17th Apr 2012 10:42 PM 
hmm

Like I said some phases ago I dont think a bad guy would claim the lie detector role (this role cant be a bad guy role).

Reasons:
Its 100% going to be in the game, one of the only roles that was always going to be in the game
There cant be 2 lie detectors, so when he ousted himself there is a great chance the real lie detector would counter-claim

Considering everyone here + Frostis group know there is a lie detector in the game and no one counter claimed id say its PRETTY safe that Pete is good. I know there are some stragglers, but would bad guy Pete take that chance? I dont think so
 
   
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Post #223: 17th Apr 2012 10:43 PM 
I don't know if we should/could ask any decent questions about the other group, too.
 
   
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Post #224: 17th Apr 2012 10:43 PM 
I think we're not using Pete enough though. He could also help us with clearing, as I could state "Everyone in this group can win together", and he would know if I was lying or not. I think our top priority is to clear him, so that we may rely on his answers in the future.
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Post #225: 17th Apr 2012 10:44 PM 
##Exit: East

we are all going east correct?
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