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Post #166: 17th Apr 2012 9:29 PM 
I have their questions/answers copied down directly from what Raking posted and for the key it was:

"Q6. Is the exit key northeast?
A6. NO"
 
   
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Post #167: 17th Apr 2012 9:30 PM 
Okey I dont think we should ask about columns, not like Merc did. The key is definitivly in the south-east then (if no one here is lying!)

Maybe do another row one?
 
   
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Post #168: 17th Apr 2012 9:31 PM 
wuuut
 
   
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Post #169: 17th Apr 2012 9:33 PM 
What's up buddy
 
   
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Post #170: 17th Apr 2012 9:35 PM 
Possible plan:

We ask if its in rows 1-3
We ask if its in rows 4-6

If its in 1-3, truth guard will say yes, liar will say no
If its not in 1-3, truth guard will say no, liar will say yes
If its in 4-6, truth guard will say yes, liar no
If its not in 4-6, truth guard will say no, liar will say yes

If the key is there, we should get 1 yes and 1 no.
If the key isnt there we should get 2 no´s or 2 yes

right?
 
   
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Post #171: 17th Apr 2012 9:36 PM 
Thus we can narrow down the liar....
 
   
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Post #172: 17th Apr 2012 9:36 PM 
We already eliminated rows 1-6.

If we ask columns 9-12 and rows 9-12 then we can narrow it down to a 3x3 area.
 
   
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Post #173: 17th Apr 2012 9:37 PM 
...Er, 10-12.
 
   
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Post #174: 17th Apr 2012 9:38 PM 
But we dont know who the liar is bagshot, could be someone here. Could be someone in Frosti´s group

Also i meant for rows 7-9 and 10-12 :p
 
   
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Post #175: 17th Apr 2012 9:43 PM 
Well if Klaus comes on and gives the answer he got we should know if there should be a liar in the group (if he gets a yes then there's no reason any of us should be lying).
 
   
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Post #176: 17th Apr 2012 9:43 PM 
Maybe im overthinking this
 
   
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Post #177: 17th Apr 2012 9:43 PM 
Anyways what should we ask next about? :)
 
   
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Post #178: 17th Apr 2012 9:46 PM 
Bagshot @ 17/4/2012 20:29
I have their questions/answers copied down directly from what Raking posted and for the key it was:

"Q6. Is the exit key northeast?
A6. NO"


Why do I always think they said the key is in the North-east?


Scratch the part where I said there must be a liar.
 
   
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Post #179: 17th Apr 2012 9:51 PM 
Does anyone think my plan makes sense if there is a liar in our group?

If we dedive the maze into area´s 1-4
Rows 1-3: Area 1
Rows 4-6: Area 2
Rows 7-9: Area 3
Rows 10-12: Area 4

Merc got a no
Truth: Key is in Area 3 or 4
False: Key is in Area 1 or 2

So if we ask about Area 3

We get a no
Truth: Key is in area 4
False: Key is in area 3

We get a yes
Truth: Key is in area 3
False: Key is in area 4

Is this logic flawed somewhere?
 
   
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Post #180: 17th Apr 2012 9:53 PM 
hmm there are probably more cases depending on where the key actually is.

I think my original plan made sense :P

 
   
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