AS pool: Aras, Charles, Dave, David, Erinn, Katie, Kim, Shane, Sierra [7 of them AS, 2 of them FvF]

FvF: Penner, alternate is Hope (if Sierra quits) or Becky if she steps it up

S4 returnee: Hope (if possible), alternate Shontayla (if possible), alternate alternates are Tijuana and Angelia?


...wow @ how cut-and-dry this is. It's... really sad.

Sounds about right

Right now, it's looking like:

All-Stars:
Katie - "The Loudmouth"
Sierra - "The Lunatic"
Kim - "The Power" (I don't like this tbh)
David - "The Middleman"
Aras - "The Snake" or "The Chameleon" (lol again)
Charlie - "The Giraffe"
Dave - "The Cruiser"
Erinn - Already in as Rafe, but... hmmm...

FvF: Penner, Shane, one more from above or below. Or Becky?

S4: Hope? Shontayla?


Nicknames are tentative. Obviously, we're only going to have 6 or 7 AS from this season. Maybe only six, tbh. The pool isn't that big for... quality people. Penner is unquestionably FvF. Penner + two others that leave soon? Idrk.

Shane can't be AS. He's never on AIM, missed an easy challenge, is incognito from both of us (I know who you are...), and doesn't even seem to be trying anymore. It's sad that he'l be FvF... unless we do six.

Shane probably went poof for school, great nicknames besides Kim lol, ummm Kim is difficult Power is passable, can even do The Ranger because of her AIM grangeranger but I think we should ask Her opinion on her own nickname. I want Aras to be the Chameleon just Because lol... Kind if an inside joke that only a few would get

Angie would be a FvF over Becky even.... The Cookie? Becky didn't put in ANY effort, we will see by the end. We don't need to do 7, and trust me when and if AS time comes, we know they all won't be able to show up anyway, so it's always a tentative thing

FvF folks don't get nicknames but have the chance to earn them. Part of this is placement, to be honest.

Aras is now FvF anyway given his Becky vote... xD

if he even cares to play again lol

I am thinking Kim is FvF. I mean, she's barely confessing... and basically is at the beck and call of those who DO care more. Really... I don't think naming all three girls to AS is the right thing to do, unless they completely steamroller everyone and make the final three. Boy, that'd suck... but I honestly think it's going to happen given how Katie has two idols.

If Kim makes it... she could be "The Princess" again. I think Ublaz might hate it this time :-X

Becky isn't making it to FvF, even... she's playing for 5th or 6th.

Aras is actually starting to strike me as like Rafe last season - blindsided before the right time. Of course, he may also be FvF too - it's hard to be certain. Just depends on the rest.

I honestly think Shane has a chance to be an All-Star, provided he actually does something that shakes things up. Like if he defects to Charlie/Sierra for a round or two, realizing that's the only way he makes the final three... he could earn it. But if he doesn't make a move, he's FvF by sole virtue of his amusing confessions. That, and I'm happy to be back on speaking terms with Jake.


All-Stars:
Katie - "The Loudmouth"
Sierra - "The Lunatic"
Erinn - "The Empress"
David - "The Middleman"
Charlie - "The Giraffe"
Dave - "The Cruiser"
Aras - "The Chameleon" (lol again)

FvF: Penner, Shane, Kim

S4: Hope? Shontayla?


It's hard to know.

Amanda Kimmel @ 19/9/2013 13:20

I am thinking Kim is FvF. I mean, she's barely confessing... and basically is at the beck and call of those who DO care more. Really... I don't think naming all three girls to AS is the right thing to do, unless they completely steamroller everyone and make the final three. Boy, that'd suck... but I honestly think it's going to happen given how Katie has two idols. If Kim makes it... she could be "The Princess" again. I think Ublaz might hate it this time :-X Becky isn't making it to FvF, even... she's playing for 5th or 6th. Aras is actually starting to strike me as like Rafe last season - blindsided before the right time. Of course, he may also be FvF too - it's hard to be certain. Just depends on the rest. I honestly think Shane has a chance to be an All-Star, provided he actually does something that shakes things up. Like if he defects to Charlie/Sierra for a round or two, realizing that's the only way he makes the final three... he could earn it. But if he doesn't make a move, he's FvF by sole virtue of his amusing confessions. That, and I'm happy to be back on speaking terms with Jake. All-Stars: Katie - "The Loudmouth" Sierra - "The Lunatic" Erinn - "The Empress" David - "The Middleman" Charlie - "The Giraffe" Dave - "The Cruiser" Aras - "The Chameleon" (lol again) FvF: Penner, Shane, Kim S4: Hope? Shontayla? It's hard to know.

Sounds right, Kim got busy with work and I think her interest waned after the snowball ruling. Put her in FvF instead she may just see that as another strike against her and just avoid the series altogether. It is what it is. She'll freak that Aras made it before her in AS ( kind of like Jason and me in Sausage). We'll see how Kim handles the remainder of the game, or if she is voted off soon. The only 2 on this list that are wavering for me is Aras/Kim for the final FvF/AS spots.

BTW, I spoke in depth with Dave and Charlie regarding his decision to give the idol back, as well the nullifier. It turns out Dave knew Becky was gonna flip back and that him or Sierra would go home, which put them in the same situation ( them being their alliance), no one from Kim/Erinn/Katie/Shane/David side were going home. So Dave decided the idol use was a waste, since Sierra would go so their alliance is down a member with one less idol, so an even worse position. Dave sacrificed himself for the greater good of his alliance, without considering his own survivability ( if it was me, I'd have used the idol to save myself, I dont play for a GROUP, I play for myself, but it is still admirable).


For that reason, Dave could also be seen as the "Martyr"

I thought of a nickname for Kim. Vicario is gonna hate me the moment he clicks the "quote" button on this post...


All-Stars:
Katie - "The Tsundere"
Sierra - "The Lunatic"
David - "The Middleman"
Charlie - "The Giraffe"
Dave - "The Martyr"
Erinn - "The Empress"
Kim - "The Bearded Lady" / Aras - "The Chameleon"

FvF: Penner, Shane, Aras/Kim

S4: Hope? Shontayla?


Basically, Kim is, like Gina, an enigma. She shouldn't honestly be an All-Star, based on her rather lackluster performance here, but she is. I'm sure even Ublaz is aware that he wasn't up to snuff this time.

As for who is up to snuff...

Katie started out as an over-the-top drama-centric bitch, but turned into a sort of heroine for her alliance, even avoiding the target despite having two HIIs in her pocket. There is absolutely no question she deserves AS, especially since she's the favorite to win right now, given how all it takes is for her to tell Becky that Shane and David are voting for her at the F5 stage. I don't like "Loudmouth" for her title anymore - it doesn't really fit with her late-game personality. I think "Tsundere" is very appropriate.

Sierra is a ridiculous, over-the-top personality, and has been the entire game. There have been multiple opportunities to take her out, yet she managed to avoid it... while still being one of the most insane, unpredictable players in any ORG ever. AS needs personalities. AS also needs a first boot. Unless she can do enough damage control by that time, she's a candidate for that given how some people won't want to deal with her.

David played both sides for as long as he possibly could, made many different alliances, and stayed a major social threat. He has played a very well-rounded game, and has been in the "middle" in more ways than one, hence why "The Middleman" is an appropriate title. He'd be in the best position to win right now if he and Shane weren't being complete morons about wanting to vote Becky out before utilizing her to take out the last threat left in their way. Hence why I see 5th place in his future, but he played hard enough to earn a win... with that one fatal mistake.

Charlie has had his back against the wall for some time now, yet managed to shrug off that "Outcast" label and come back strong. He's won some key immunities and has proven that he's got game, orchestrating this season's best blindside (of Erinn). His "Giraffe" title is self-imposed - if you can think of a better one, let me know.

Dave as a "Martyr" is kind of strange for me, but I kind of like it given the way he went out. However, he isn't the type to have such a heroic nickname - after all, half the cast hated him for quite some time, and that's attributable to his ego. He could be the "Samurai" to be honest - burning bridges by fighting battles with the enemy shogunate until committing seppuku to allow his friends to escape. He's definitely an AS pick regardless of nickname. Although I notice that this is the second Japanese nickname I've suggested today... it's kind of fitting that Katie and Dave are the two given how they butted heads xD

It's Erinn's call whether she wants in as Rafe or Erinn. I see merits for each. Rafe will have a redemption-like storyline, and he's also from the series' best season. Erinn has the best fake talk show that we wish was real, as well as two close allies that seem to be AS picks. Which played the better game? Hard to say. Rafe got royally robbed by a stupid play that completely ruined Brenda's chances (should have waited until the final 7). Erinn got a well-timed blindside that was very, very necessary, although her allies were foolish to allow it to happen since they had a boring game in the bag. I am on the fence about which she should play as - I like Rafe's story value better and think he deserves a second chance more, whereas I LOVE the Kim and Erinn in the Morning episodes and Erinn's overall charms. Hence... she's on here.


The last spot, it's either Kim or Aras. Given how awful this cast was game-wise, it's hard to pick - typically, both would be FvF. Or maybe both SHOULD be FvF, and we should keep the AS list to 6 by virtue of the cast being overall inferior to that of the first two seasons (Gsurvivor2 in every department, Gsurvivor1 had a lot more... personality and hilarity).

See... Penner is 100% unquestionably FvF. He was a great player that left a bit too soon, but wasn't in the game long enough to get an AS spot. That leaves two more spots, and four people to fill them - Becky, Shane, Kim, Aras. Jay is already in FvF as Morgan :), and Angelia was basically a non-entity this game (which sucks imo), so that leaves the four of them.

Becky started out as extremely interesting, especially given how she was trolling both of us. Hating the hat pics I picked, being racist to piss you off, Ted... just for lulz. She was quite a character from the start, but then her confessionals stopped existing. She is without question the ultimate floater this season, voting for whomever is in power. She went from voting with the mega-alliance to blindsiding Erinn with Charlie (how stupid were they to vote for her?) to being the swing vote at the F5. The final five is the stupidest time possible to vote out the swing vote - and since Katie realizes this, Katie's gonna pick her up. However... does a floater who wrote practically zero confessionals deserve an FvF spot? I... really don't think so.

Shane has barely written confessionals as well, but at times... he's delivered rather amazingly. At other times, he's practically been a non-entity, just doing whatever he and David agree upon and not paying any attention to the other players. He's barely on AIM, and is basically an under-the-radar jury goat that won't get more than two votes for him to win. Thus, he cannot deserve an AS spot. However, an FvF spot - especially given how the Minority Report challenge showed how well-positioned he is - is not out of the question.

Kim is Ublaz. Ublaz is usually someone to be feared. He's an extreme challenge whore. He's as shrewd as they come. He's as smart as ORGers can get. And he can shtick amazingly. However, due to him having a job and applying to get into Harvard for sometime next year... he's been rather lackluster this game. Since he's my friend, I do wanna give the guy a break, but as a host, I can't honestly do that if it isn't warranted. Kim does have a few major credits to her name, including an immunity win in the brutal Word Chain challenge and trying to stop the idiots from splitting the vote between Becky and Sierra (which led to Becky flipping to save herself and Erinn's demise). Mix that with a rather entertaining confessional, although infrequent, and you get someone who without doubt deserves FvF at minimum. But which does she deserve more - FvF or AS?

Aras is sorta like the Rafe of this season. He could have made it far, but the powers that be didn't let him because he was in the best position to break them up. That one statement is HUGE for his case. He also wrote more frequent confessionals than any of the other three here, which is also HUGE for his case. He is definitely a Chameleon again - or tried to be, but the others saw right through him this time. And in all honesty, I think he's earned a name more than Kim has. The one thing is his placement... but there isn't much wrong with 10th, especially if you're a threat.


So... Aras for AS, Kim for FvF, it seems.


Next season's returnee... we need to track down Hope first, maybe? Or maybe Shontayla because technical difficulties/MedEvac a la Philippines?

Kim is unquestionably AS over Aras for me in my book. Both admit they didnt give 100%, but Kim had real life circumstances and still played the best she could, Aras is just always not playing at 100% ever. Aras hasnt impressed me, Kim has done better. I wouldnt say Kim impressed me cause I know who she is and what she is capable of, but if Kim was just some random person whose potential we did not know, she'd still be AS worthy. Plus the Kim-Erinn talk show!



Tsundere...WOW! That PERFECTLY describes Katie, and I had to google it...never ever heard of that before. That's a very interesting new word. I still like Martyr for Dave, its more descriptive than the generalized Samurai title, and Dave is also ironic, being hated and going out in such a heroic fashion..and ultimately in vain.

Anyway, I just realized that since Erinn is in already, we can include both Aras and Kim anyway. 3 FvF aren't necessary if the cast is the way they were like this season, so many great players doing disappearing acts

Becky's exit there made her jump over Shane for FvF.

Has Shane actually done anything...? Becky just DID.

Yeah, it's final. Shane isn't coming back. He's basically quitting at the F4, and that's insulting to everyone on the jury. Why add injury to insult by casting him over someone else? (Yes, I know I reversed it)

All-Stars:
Katie - "The Tsundere"
Sierra - "The Lunatic"
David - "The Middleman"
Charlie - "The Giraffe" (is there a related animal that can revive itself? The only relative of Giraffes I know is the Okapi...)
Dave - "The Martyr"
Erinn - "The Empress" (if she'd rather be Erinn over Rafe, idk what she wants)
Kim - "The Bearded Lady"
Aras - "The Chameleon"


FvF: Penner, Becky, Aras(?)