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Post #1: 14th Sep 2012 10:17 AM 
Roth @ 13/9/2012 21:32
You may post all communications between one another in here. External communication is still not permitted outside of this thread. All game rules still apply whilst communicating in here.


Natalie @ 13/9/2012 21:33
And if we communicate here, but one of us loses the communication device or dies, does all previous info disappear before someone else can read it?


Rob @ 13/9/2012 22:51
I would assume that it does. I think the walkie-talkies weren't readable by other players, but I haven't checked the Lab 2 threads.

So, I chose to give you the other communicator, because I felt that you're active enough that any communications between us will stay pretty secure, and can be acted upon fast enough to actually be useful. (And, yes, this is why I thought that an active person should definitely accompany Waka and Rito. There's a decent chance that I might get killed by one or both of them, but only if they've got the rifle. I can't see any scum, however insane, giving it to Rito, and if I were to get killed by Waka, at least you'll know and can vote for him.)


Natalie @ 13/9/2012 22:56
oh it's you!!! <3

How did you get the communication thing? I wondered what was up with the scum question earlier, but felt it best to just answer and not make too much out of it. Although I really wanted to ask the same question back to you.

(And I *almost* swapped my follow to you from Boc after reading the thread all day but decided to just leave it and hope for the best)


Rob @ 13/9/2012 23:07
Nope, I'm not scum. And, hahaha, I had planned on giving you the communicator ever since I got it, because it seemed like you'd be the best one to discuss things with.

I got the communicators out of the locked closet. I got the key in tower #3, and was going to reveal it to the group, but then you died and I was pretty freaked out, so I kept my mouth shut. (This, incidentally, is why I really wanted to make sure there was no kleptomaniac in the group. If there had been one, I didn't want them to jack whatever was in there and pass it into the hands of the damned.)


Natalie @ 13/9/2012 23:20
Makes sense, and thank you, I appreciate the trust and will do my best not to mess anything up.

Ok, so some info that may or may not help you.

The guns I'm not completely sure about. Both read strangely in their descriptions. I didn't understand them to actually kill. Idk if they were worded that way intentionally but they seemed very vague. It said you could choose a player to target and I believe it only mentioned changing their vote/making it not count for that phase.

I've been so hoping for someone to talk to since opening those compartments. Tried to figure out any way possible for just the people I trusted to end up in a group together this phase and it just wasn't happening. I got an experimental bomb. -_- I have no idea what that means. But when used people can cast 2 vote lists that round. It sounds like a huge risk, and I really want a second opinion on it.


Rob @ 13/9/2012 23:32
Eergh. That could get pretty crazy. Does it work for everybody in the group, or just whoever's in the immediate proximity of the bomb?

Also, hmm. That might mean that other people got items as well. It's possible that you're the only one, since 5 is the central compartment, but that's a complete guess on my part.


Natalie @ 13/9/2012 23:38
I had 7, and the etched number matched. I thought maybe there was a pattern to the numbers and if they matched, maybe that person got an item?

And no clue how it works. I kind of feel like it might be a last resort sort of item, but I'm not known to be overly aggressive with anything or take unnecessary risks. That's why I was really wanting to hear what someone else thought about it.


Rob @ 13/9/2012 23:48
Aaaaand I'm blocked for the round. Interesting.

I dunno if we're allowed to directly copy/paste from the thread, but what basically happened was that we found the cave that Kristoff was hiding in in one of the flavour posts, and it's got "thou shalt not kill" written over and over again. Roth blacked out, but he woke up again and seems to be okay. We've all been offered the chance to turn back.

Kristoff appears to be motivated by guilt, and that might be something you guys can find useful. If you fill his brain with thoughts of remorse, regret, and repentance, he might turn back into himself.

Our options are to keep pressing on or head back. There's nothing to loot in the cave.



Natalie @ 13/9/2012 23:56
We're apparently trying to bait Kristoff and run him into the armory. One player must run towards another one, and then that person must run towards someone else. The last person with the target in the thread is going to end up being Kristoff bait. :(

I'm not sure yet if someone can be tagged several times, or if once you have been and then targeted someone else if you are safe.

Drrr seems to have been killed and Bryce is back. Helios took a pretty bad injury but is ok now. Thought we lost him for a little bit.

I don't know how I could guilt him, other than maybe writing "thou shalt not kill" on the wall or something. I don't get the feeling from what I've read that I'd be able to actually talk to this monster. Any suggestions? Think the only thing I could maybe write with is Helios' blood :sad: Maybe a bit extreme?


Rob @ 14/9/2012 0:23
Try it. Kristoff was writing with blood in the cave. Write it over and over and over.

If anybody asks, you came up with that idea all by yourself.

And, ehh, Drr getting modkilled for inactivity isn't all that surprising. I recommend making Wikey the last target, if at all possible. He's a scum, and I know that for a fact.

Does Bryce corroborate Vernon's story?


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 0:34
Bryce just posted that Vernon never posted in their thread. Said he locked him in there for a phase, posted all actions in his journal and that he has a gun and a medkit.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 0:36
And Henry posted first, and ran to me. Suggestions who I run to? I wasn't around for this game last Lab. Not sure what to expect.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 0:38
Natalie @ 14/9/2012 0:34
Bryce just posted that Vernon never posted in their thread. Said he locked him in there for a phase, posted all actions in his journal and that he has a gun and a medkit.

Clarifying:
Vernon locked Bryce in for a phase

Vernon posted all actions in his journal

Vernon has a gun and medkit


Rob @ 14/9/2012 0:51
If I had to guess I'd say that this is a straight-up "sacrifice the last person" game, with the running. Run to anybody but Wikey. I recommend running to Helios or Boc. Heck, at this point it's not even all that evil to just straight up tell everybody that the best plan is to sacrifice Wikey. He's a scum, and everybody knows it. It's even in the scum's best interests to let him die.

And... Vernon has a gun. I don't know how to feel about that.

Ask Bryce whether Vernon had the gun and medkit before they went off together, or whether he picked them up in the room. If he had them beforehand, that's an almost 100% certainty that he's a scum.


Rob @ 14/9/2012 0:53
However, IF you are allowed to run to the same person multiple times... then the best possible tactic is to run to nobody at all. Wait around until about two minutes before the 24 hour deadline is up, then run to Wikey.

It's a complete dick move, but it's the easiest way to ensure that a scum gets killed off.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 1:17
It is like tag, so you can be *it* more than once. I was already debating what you suggested about just waiting to post. But man, that feels risky making people really mad as well. I'd want to be sure the person I tag was online or had plenty of time to see if it I do tag someone. Unless I tag a person I want gone.You said you are sure Wikey is scum? Is that a hunch or more than that?

Wrote on walls in blood, that might bring me some unexpected attention lol

Bryce says when he signed on it said there was a rifle, medkit and something else, he thinks armor but can't remember. He said Vernon never posted but must have claimed it all in his journal.

I asked how he was, he says fine. He also said he doesn't understand why Vernon did it, knowing he would just end up back with the group this phase.

(Then he also used the blood to write on the wall, "Bryce is a badass")


Rob @ 14/9/2012 2:04
Wikey is absolutely scum. I'm the lie detector, and I scanned him after Bryce called him out. Sure enough, he was lying, and he's scummy as the day is long.

And, if people get mad, tell them that you killed the most obvious scum out there, and ask them exactly what else you should have done? Like I said, it's a bit of a cheap move, but it's a guaranteed scum kill.

So, Bryce never actually morphed into a demon, then? That's a bit sketchy, but then again Vernon is a pretty good liar when he wants to be, and it definitely makes sense that he would immediately try to run off again. Whether or not he's actually scum or just being a selfish jerk like he was in Lab 2, I don't actually know, but I'll definitely keep an eye on him.

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Post #2: 14th Sep 2012 1:02 PM 
Natalie @ 14/9/2012 1:17
It is like tag, so you can be *it* more than once. I was already debating what you suggested about just waiting to post. But man, that feels risky making people really mad as well. I'd want to be sure the person I tag was online or had plenty of time to see if it I do tag someone. Unless I tag a person I want gone.You said you are sure Wikey is scum? Is that a hunch or more than that?

Wrote on walls in blood, that might bring me some unexpected attention lol

Bryce says when he signed on it said there was a rifle, medkit and something else, he thinks armor but can't remember. He said Vernon never posted but must have claimed it all in his journal.

I asked how he was, he says fine. He also said he doesn't understand why Vernon did it, knowing he would just end up back with the group this phase.

(Then he also used the blood to write on the wall, "Bryce is a badass")


Rob @ 14/9/2012 2:04
Wikey is absolutely scum. I'm the lie detector, and I scanned him after Bryce called him out. Sure enough, he was lying, and he's scummy as the day is long.

And, if people get mad, tell them that you killed the most obvious scum out there, and ask them exactly what else you should have done? Like I said, it's a bit of a cheap move, but it's a guaranteed scum kill.

So, Bryce never actually morphed into a demon, then? That's a bit sketchy, but then again Vernon is a pretty good liar when he wants to be, and it definitely makes sense that he would immediately try to run off again. Whether or not he's actually scum or just being a selfish jerk like he was in Lab 2, I don't actually know, but I'll definitely keep an eye on him.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 12:18
Wikey just volunteered :crazy: Thanks for all the info, greatly appreciate it and I will try to tell you as much as I know as well.

I'm still trying to make sure I understand for sure the phase won't end short of 24 hours or I'd currently be bait. :(

For my role, I can call a redo on 2 phase votes. Think it's limited to once per phase and only people who were alive and voting then get to revote. (advantage is they have further knowledge when they place a previous vote) Debating when to use them that it would actually make us catch scum earlier, but also don't want to waste them. I was considering throwing one on phase 1 to maybe get Wikey out a couple rounds earlier? I don't want to admit how much I've tried to think through this role and best/worst case scenarios.

People I've kept low on my list all game or have moved from more middle to the bottom of the list over the past phases:

Helios
Ari
Henry
Waka
Dutchiee
Rob
Boc

You, Waka, Boc and Dutchiee are the 4 I trust the most, Henry and Ari also both seem pretty trustworthy.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 13:31
Please check in....


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 13:44
What's going on over there?


Rob @ 14/9/2012 13:53
Sorry!

Alright, I recommend for the time limit, double check the flavour post at the beginning. Paul usually makes the deadline 24 hours from the time of the posting.

As for the redo... hmm. I recommend that we find out more scum first. The votes for round one were probably incredibly scattered due to there being such a lack of information to go on. However, if we retcon a Wikey kill that round, we run the risk of screwing up the subsequent rounds where everybody else was voting for him. So I'm not sure what the smarter course of action would be. I'm going to say that for right now, killing Wikey in round one is the better option. I know for a fact that Drr was leading a charge to get me killed. If she was scum, it stands to reason I will die first, and that's going to be a bad thing for us. (And me specifically.)

So, I agree on that front. I will post more later.


Rob @ 14/9/2012 13:54
And, nothing, really. Vernon and I both posted that we would continue on with Roth. Waka hasn't done anything interesting. Bryce showed up, but it turned out to be a hosting error.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 14:00
Vernon is reading our thread as well.

Henry posted that one of the 3 that left the group died. (So I might have been a little panicked when I posted above) Glad you are ok. I did ask Henry what that was about, but no reply yet.

So, you think I should use a redo for round 1 this phase?

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Post #3: 15th Sep 2012 2:29 PM 
Rob @ 14/9/2012 14:59
Henry's lying.


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 15:03
I think he's confused, maybe because of Rito viewing the thread? He said It's common sense, 3 go and only 1or 2 come back and tell some bs. Think he may think Rito has returned without you and Waka.


Rob @ 14/9/2012 16:02
Hahaha. Yeah, he's probably confused. We're all still alive, and literally nothing has happened. Not gonna lie, every time I see Vernon post, I always expect it's going to result in someone getting shot...


Natalie @ 14/9/2012 16:11
Rob @ 14/9/2012 16:02
Hahaha. Yeah, he's probably confused. We're all still alive, and literally nothing has happened. Not gonna lie, every time I see Vernon post, I always expect it's going to result in someone getting shot...


I understand that after being with him all through lab 2. lol

I've pm'd Paul since the flavor thread doesnt specify 24 hours. The rules say phases will be 24-48 hours though so I should be ok to post near the time of his first post in the thread....I hope :-/
I've been stalking the site all day just to make sure I don't get caught not posting soon enough, but have to go out for a few hours. Will be home before 10p though.


Rob @ 14/9/2012 17:44
H'okay. I work for most of the evening, and will be going out of town this weekend. I will try to check in if I can, but don't be surprised if I don't.


Rob @ 15/9/2012 1:53
alol. Vernon is trying to tell us that all he has is a medkit. I'm currently asking him if he has anything else. My hope is that he'll fess up without making me roleclaim. The idea is that if I roleclaim as the lie detector, theoretically I can intimidate both him and Waka into fessing up if either of them is scum. It's a bit of a gamble, but if it works out correctly, it could reap us some good benefits.


Natalie @ 15/9/2012 12:30
Wikey is getting downright defensive trying to get picked as "bait" not sure what's up with that. And Henry is getting frustrated that I won't just pick someone scummy and make them it and hope they don't show up between now and the end of time. It's making me paranoid...

Also, Curtis is very high on my list of scum right now. It seems the perfect way to just hide in the shadows and contribute nothing and never be targeted.


Natalie @ 15/9/2012 15:26
Dylan and Curtis are heading to the top of the lists over here. Boc has been reading, but not posted once. We have*5* who haven't posted this phase.

Boc
Curtis
Dylan
ff_zero
Vespis

Of those the only one I sort of trusted was Boc and think he may be silenced. The others have all been high on my list all along and Bryce agreed when I posted and said Dylan and Curtis have been high on his list as well.

Want a revote on phase 1? Or do you think that could be bad for you because of the Drrr stuff? Maybe phase 2? I hate to not use either, but don't want them to do more harm than good either. Catch 22.

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Post #4: 16th Sep 2012 3:55 PM 
We found a wallet map and Bible. I tried to take them but Vernon might have stolen them. Waka is dead. I have no idea how but I believe Vernon was involved. Thread was taken away before I could see it...


Are you there? I haven't heard from you and it's kinda unnerving...

:( I feel bad
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Post #5: 17th Sep 2012 11:45 AM 
Natalie @ 16/9/2012 22:58
Here?!


Rob @ 16/9/2012 23:03
Oh, phew. I thought you were dead, and I was panicking. Silenced?


Natalie @ 16/9/2012 23:03
I was silenced last phase, sorry! I wasn't ignoring you :(


Rob @ 16/9/2012 23:04
Ah, okay. I had a feeling that you'd been silenced, but I wasn't sure.

So, okay, Drr and Curtis were modkilled. I'm guessing Wikey got Kristoffed to hell?


Natalie @ 16/9/2012 23:07
Yes, Wikey got trapped with Kristoff.

Btw, if my confessional post counts, I should have gotten box 2 before Rito. He signed on and I hoped I could beat him by posting there instead. Lucked out and he picked the same box.


Rob @ 16/9/2012 23:07
That's awesome. I have no idea if I got my box or not. I guess we'll see...


Natalie @ 16/9/2012 23:17
Checked, he said it would count. ;) So...we should know where all 3 went because only Rito and Dutchiee were viewing the thread when I posted.

I was only hoping to keep him from adding to his stash. Sounds like he has enough stuff already.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 12:05
When I am sure it's still you here, I need to talk to you about chest 2


Rob @ 17/9/2012 12:18
Still me. Dutchiee is dead, and I got two daggers. They have skulls in the handle, which makes me think if I pick them up I may have to use them to kill another player.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 12:29
I got a silver cape. I can pick it up if I want to. Thoughts?

Hmm, tempting to kill Rito so we could get his stuff. He is so useless. Even when he's good/town he mucks things up so badly by trolling the game. But what if it means you kill someone, but die as well because there are 2?


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 12:42
I'm kind of thinking that if I touch this cape, I'm outta here. Last time you had to choose to use it, but the way it says you can pick it up if you want to makes me think I'll be separated from the group as soon as I touch it.

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Post #6: 17th Sep 2012 12:09 PM 
Rob @ 17/9/2012 13:01
If I had to guess, I'd say that they both need to kill people. I took them both. If Vernon actually does have body armor like Bryce said, then I think we can blow both daggers on him. Or off Jeff and ff_zero, they've been pretty useless, and it wouldn't surprise me if inactivity is being used as a scum tactic. It would certainly make sense for them to do that.

As for the cape, I say absolutely pick it up. There are a few things that I can see on the village map which look like they'll be useful. I'm reasonably certain that the bank contains something very, very important. Kristoff's key is lying in the fountain, and his residence is also on the map. We should go there, as well.

There are only five phases left in the game, so I feel like we're going to have to move fast. There's also something in the warehouse, and there are toxic chemicals there. I'm immune to those, so if we can identify another scum there, I can get one of them to accompany me to the warehouse, which will kill them.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 13:06
Ok, posting to pick it up now. If I disappear from the group hopefully we will at least maintain this connection.

If I die...good luck! ;)

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Post #7: 17th Sep 2012 12:18 PM 
Rob @ 17/9/2012 13:13
Ergh. If you die, that's gonna make everything suck, hard.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 13:17
I don't think 2 of the 3 would kill people. But as much info as you have from the map might be very helpful. I have a bad feeling I will be on my own once I have the cape.
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Post #8: 17th Sep 2012 12:50 PM 
Rob @ 17/9/2012 13:44
If you're given the option to go to Central Park, look in the fountain. Kristoff's key is there. At the bakery, you're going to need a password. Vernon has this, and will not give it up for anybody. My guess is he got it in the room, though he might have gotten it from tower two. We don't know who got that, though I've long suspected it was Drr.

Kristoff's key probably unlocks the Pietersen residence. It just says "RIP Melissa," but we might find something interesting there.

The Cinema says that this movie has a good "TWIST", all in caps. No clue what that means, but I'd avoid it.

The Warehouse is contaminated. I'm the only one that can go there, as far as I know.

The Village Bank is where Pandora's Box is. Either you or I needs to get there - alone. Even if I show them the map, nobody else will know that that's what's in there, so if one of us can get there on our own, we can get it and get out of there.

The Supermarket, it just asks, "Aren't those shelves all abandoned? The apocalypse has truly begun." No clue what this means.

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Post #9: 17th Sep 2012 3:04 PM 
Natalie @ 17/9/2012 13:51
I got in tower 2, that's where the hunting rifle came from.

I wasn't sure about who got the other 2 towers, but thought Dylan might have gotten 1.

Thanks for the info!! I've saved a copy in my journal.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 15:16
Have you checked Boc?

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Post #10: 17th Sep 2012 3:14 PM 
Rob @ 17/9/2012 16:09
Not yet. I only have three scans, and I blew the first one ensuring that Wikey was scum.

My second one will go to Boc, assuming I'm allowed to scan a statement that he made a few rounds ago.

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Post #11: 17th Sep 2012 3:59 PM 
Natalie @ 17/9/2012 16:51
Talk to me about my role please. Every time they mention Ari, I feel like I'm wasting mine... :ermm:


Rob @ 17/9/2012 16:53
I'm in an evening class right now. I will do so in a bit.

At the moment I agree that calling a recall on round one's vote is a good plan. I want to nail a second scum before we do that, though. Like, let's imagine Boc is a scum. If we know that now, going back in time to erase him in round one is a great outcome.

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Natalie @ 17/9/2012 17:16
-____- I thought I was watching you flatline. My heart sank.


Rob @ 17/9/2012 17:17
No, no. This is me creating a text version of the map. I just wasn't sure what the post margins were.

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Post #14: 17th Sep 2012 8:00 PM 
Rob @ 17/9/2012 19:54
Scanning Boc now. If he flips scum, it's time to blow him wide open. If he doesn't, I'm thinking I will probably scan Vespis. It's also worth considering retconning a list to take out someone like Drr or Curtis, who might have been been a scum taking advantage of inactivity as a loophole for survival in the final showdown.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 20:11
Idk if we will be able to communicate a vote option or how it will work.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 20:22
For my completely random post of the day...

There is a guy here at fencing that looks like you :o


Rob @ 17/9/2012 20:50
Hahahaha. That's awesome.

I'm STILL waiting to see what, if anything, my daggers do.

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Post #15: 18th Sep 2012 11:25 PM 
Rob @ 17/9/2012 20:50
Hahahaha. That's awesome.

I'm STILL waiting to see what, if anything, my daggers do.


Natalie @ 17/9/2012 21:13
So, reset a vote for round 1? I think we may need to do some ground work before I post though incase there is no discussion about who to vote. Maybe set it up in thread, as to who we need to be targeting?

My biggest fear is a revote that does more harm than good. I guess there really is no way to guarantee that doesn't happen.


Rob @ 17/9/2012 21:16
Well, if my scan on Boc flips scum, then we have him and probably Vespis to target in revotes. Assuming we have a good number of townies still alive, that'll make it much, much easier to coordinate that.


Rob @ 18/9/2012 16:50
Natalie, do you remember the numbers for the compartments? I had them in a note on my computer, but it reset itself and deleted the note, so I don't remember the sequence.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 17:51
Yea, give me time to find it....stupid phone


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 18:05
Natalie @ 13/9/2012 11:06
Ari - opened 1 - etched number 5
Waka - 2
Vespis - has both keys for 3 - etched number 8
Helios - opened 4 - etched number 5
Boc - opened 5 - etched number 9
Rob - opened 6 - etched number 0
Natalie - opened 7 - etched number 7
Henry - has both keys for box 8
Dutchiee - 9

Drrr - unaccounted for



Natalie @ 18/9/2012 18:06
I think Henry said his etched # was 0


Rob @ 18/9/2012 19:48
Yeah, I remember him having a 0.


Rob @ 18/9/2012 19:52
Go to the park. Kristoff's key is there. His house is red. Do NOT go to the black building.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 20:19
Got it, I'll post to go to the park.

Am I posting a revote on any phases? You mentioned doing phase 1 or 2, I can post for both, but only 1 at a time. I'm starting to wonder if I should be trusting you with this decision as much as I am :( If you are scum, I'm doomed. My paranoia is pretty high atm.


Rob @ 18/9/2012 21:39
Believe me, I've had the same worry about you for quite a while. I was going to lie-detect you before giving you the communicator, but decided that I would just have to trust you. I only have a limited number of scans, and I don't want to blow one on a reasonably obvious result.

And, as for the revote... frick. I didn't get results for the Boc scan yet. I don't know if I will ever actually get them, on account of him suddenly dying. I mean, really, it's so theoretical that I really don't have any better advice to give you than I already have.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 22:03
Here are my fears, we honestly don't even know if we have more town than scum alive right now. So to think we could coordinate a revote and be sure it hits our favor feels very risky. I just don't know.

I got the cape...it's a protective thing and I can target a player on a certain phase and any votes against them won't count in the final showdown on that phase.


Rob @ 18/9/2012 22:17
Oh, I see. It's too bad that it's not a travelling item. Another item relying on random guesswork. @_@


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 22:26
yup :(


Rob @ 18/9/2012 22:31
It's probably best to protect yourself or me this round. We're running out of targets for them to hit.

I recommend claiming the blue building in the thread, then secretly going to the park. I can claim the park, and secretly go to the blue building. Pandora's box is in the blue building (the bank), but I don't want to be tailed there.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 22:40
Don't you think someone would follow me to the blue building? Especially based on Bryce's comments earlier?


Rob @ 18/9/2012 22:51
It's possible. I think they'll be more concerned with acquiring items than killing us. There are only two more people than there are locations, and if they don't get the stuff, we will, and that's bad for them.

If someone attempts to follow you, and runs into me, I should be able to defend myself pretty handily.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 23:18
You're confusing me lol

Why did you suggest me for going with Rito?


Rob @ 18/9/2012 23:20
So that they wouldn't think that I was pressuring you to go to Blue building. :p

It's a diversion tactic.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 23:29
lol so you have suggested I to go to orange, want me to post that I'll go to blue, then post in my journal that I'm headed to the park?

:crazy:



Rob @ 18/9/2012 23:32
Post that you'd prefer to go to blue, since you don't really want to be alone with Vernon (or whatever), and then post in your journal to go to the park.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 23:34
k got it.


Natalie @ 18/9/2012 23:47
Why exactly are you even sending me to the park? I know you said there is a key, but...I feel like I'm being sent into a trap. :ermm:


Rob @ 18/9/2012 23:59
Kristoff's key is in the fountain.

Look, Natalie. If I wanted to send you into a trap, I would have sent you to the warehouse. I'm not a scum. I mean, really, think about it. Why would I have panicked on the day you were silenced? I would have known that you were being silenced. I also have been both silenced and roleblocked, and I've been the one who's been fostering rational decision-making for the past little while.

Am I actively advocating a course of action which is not entirely honest? Yes. Because the scum just killed three members of our party, and I don't trust anybody except you. I'm the only one who knows where Pandora's Box is, and if the damned find that out, I'm absolutely going to be killed.


Rob @ 19/9/2012 0:09
Look, if there's any reason why you should trust me, it's this - I openly told you that I got daggers from the box. If I was going to kill you, I wouldn't bother fooling you into a trap, I'd have killed you with those.

Also, I told the rest of the group it was handcuffs. If you wanted to expose me, you definitely could. Why would I put that much trust in you if I was just going to lead you into a trap?

Seriously. There's no strategic reason why it would make any sense for me to do anything that I have done if I were scum.


Natalie @ 19/9/2012 0:09
My org rule is always to find that one person, trust them and just go with it. So, that's what I'm going to do. :) I'll post about the orange and blue and head out to play in the fountain instead. I really hope we don't lose communication through this. Be careful at the start of each phase that it's still me you are talking to before you say too much. (I admit, I try to see that you are here before I post even throughout the phase, especially while you were with Rito)


Rob @ 19/9/2012 0:23
We shouldn't lose communication, unless something tragic happens. My feeling is that Paul would probably close the thread. We lose the threads at the end of each phase, so it stands to reason they wouldn't get access to this forum.

I will definitely be more cautious, though. (And, yes. I strongly suspected I might not make it back, and consistently worried about it. I still have no idea how I survived that. Vernon might not actually be a scum, but he's certainly a fool.)

Also, I was right about the daggers. They're cursed, and instantly make the townies lose the game if I don't kill someone. I had to make a decision before moving, so I elected to take out Vespis, since Helios pointed out that there's no possible way he can be telling the truth about being Town aligned. (And if he is, it won't affect him.) I would have gone for Vernon, but there was no way to tell if he actually has body armor.

However, since I know you're paranoid, I will say outright that I did not kill Boc. Someone else has a stabbing weapon - I'm going to guess they got it out of a compartment, unless there was a place to pick it up while you guys were tempting Kristoff...

A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart.
   
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