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Episode 7x02 - "Stormborn"
 
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Post #1: 24th Jul 2017 12:18 AM 
Been liking this season a lot so far!

I was worried that Mylod was going to ruin the battle, but he did a pretty good job this episode! Let's hope he can do a good job again with the invasion of Casterly Rock.

I like the pacing of the season actually - ofcourse I much rather prefer s1-s3 pacing, but considering we are at the home stretch it's cool seeing them even out the scenes with effective plot progression; good dialogue, good set-up, good homages to past seasons, and no filler (aside from Missandei/Greyworm) as well as with some action, it feels just right actually. A big step forward from S5 and a part of S6.
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Post #2: 24th Jul 2017 12:31 AM 
As most of you guys know - I've always been the books biggest supporter and used to always give the show shit (when it rightfully deserved shit > but sometimes even when it didn't deserve shit), but with this recent update about GRRM being 'uncertain' TWOW will even be out by 2019, I'm starting to warm up to the show. GRRM thought the book was 'months away' back in October of 2015, it's almost been 2 years and now he's uncertain about it being out 2 years from now. I sincerely hope he'll give us a long explanation on what the fuck went wrong after TWOW is published. No man estimates that bad. It also doesn't help that he admitted on focusing a big chunk of his time on Fire & Blood (and it's late-2018 release date) after he promised he wouldn't work on that till atleast TWOW was out. It's a middle-finger to the fans and it hurts.

But about the show.

Sure, I still hate what they did to Dorne, them changing all the storylines and omitting important characters like Arianne, Lady Stoneheart, Victarion, etc, but atleast we'll GET a guaranteed ending with the show!

It's sad to admit - but with these recent developments I'm afraid we MIGHT still get TWOW, but I believe we'll never see ADOS on the bookshelves. Which makes me sad - but we gotta get used to the idea. Also - at the current place the book-story is in now, I cannot see it being wrapped up in just 2 books without it becoming rushed and inconsistent as well - so he'd have to get an 8th/9th book to make it satisfactory. Which just won't happen. It's been over 6 years since ADWD came out and I'm sad to admit all of my uncertainties considering I was always on the front train of all the hype-trains about possible release dates. But you just grow tired after awhile and see the situation for what it is. :(

I'll still be in the midnight lines if any of GRRM ASOIAF books come out, but I need to start being thankful for the show instead of just shitting on it all the time.

tldr: Miko puts down his pride by warming up to the show and admits to his deepest fears of ASOIAF never getting an ending.
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Post #3: 24th Jul 2017 6:48 PM 
Boc @ 24/7/2017 23:34
Sugarboogerz @ 24/7/2017 1:29
I feel like the Dorne ladies were just hyper-sexualized/corny characters so them dying meant absolutely nothing to me. It did suck though because Oberyn was my favorite character in series and this whole episode made Dorne look bad.

That's what perplexed me so much about how badly they've handled Dorne. They NAILED Oberyn and made him an even better character on the show than he was in the books. Then everything else that relates to Dorne turned into a bad CW show

The Sand Snakes weren't anything too special in the books but they definitely missed opportunities with Doran/Ellaria/Arianne. Ellaria actually bothers me more than the sand snakes on the show just because she legitimately had some great characterization in the books that they COMPLETELY reversed on the show. In the books she's the one that's trying to talk down the sand snakes from getting revenge (basically taking Doran's side) and expresses how futile revenge can be. Whereas on the show she's so ridiculously cartoonish, her "All Lannisters deserve to die!!!!1!!" line this ep was one of her worst yet. Doesn't help either that that actress isn't exactly the greatest


That's not even mentioning the missed opportunity to include the Queenmaker plot involving Myrcella and Arianne and the subsequent backlash to that. That would have been amazing to see on screen and would've established Doran as a powerful figure as well. Just tweek certain things around from other storylines and it'd be able to work even with them omitting Young Griff and Jon Connington.

Cut out some Grey Worm/Missandei action and some other minor scenes and you could have actually had enough time to include that or something similar to that.

Continues to be my primary criticism. I've learned to stop nit-picking the small stuff (like Littlefinger telling the story of the Hound to Sansa instead of the Hound telling Sansa himself) and appreciate the show for how it is - but this and the North Remembers plotlines are 2 that the show admittedly handled very poorly.
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Post #4: 27th Jul 2017 11:57 PM 
Yeah, the pay-off when coming from a character like Qyburn was kinda comical, but putting all that aside and actually seeing the ballista, I got this sinking feeling knowing that one (or more) of the dragons are going to die soon considering they've been around for so long. It's inevitable, but that brought it home.

It had this dark gritty feel to it, the same way Cersei's crowning did - I felt the directors captured the significance of both of those moments really well and it made you feel kinda dirty.
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