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Natalie
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| Post #1: 3rd Aug 2012 9:53 AM | |
Not all Christians. :(
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Natalie
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| Post #2: 3rd Aug 2012 11:09 AM | |
I do feel Chick-fil-a has a right to donate money wherever they want. Just as Coke, Pepsi, and Amazon have the right to support what they choose. You can't really allow one and disallow the other. I just don't see how anyone eating that chicken sandwich on Aug 1st thought it would look like anything other than hate from the outside. It breaks my heart tbh. I am a Christian but I'm not here to judge. It's pretty clear when the Bible says to love one another. Will I still eat at CfA? Idk I'm not very good at boycotting. I've probably eaten there less than 6 times ever so doubt I'll make much of a financial impact either way.
My issue wasn't with where he donated the money, or even his beliefs. I would have expected that to be his stand based on his keeping the business closed on Sundays, etc. So really it wasn't a surprise to me. My issue started with people and their implications that eating there on Aug 1st was some kind of litmus test as to how much of a Christian you are. | A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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| Post #3: 3rd Aug 2012 11:22 AM | |
I think you and I are on the exact same page Mal. I would say my eating there again is unlikely, but to say never...well that would guaranteed come back to bite me. | A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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| Post #4: 3rd Aug 2012 11:25 AM | |
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I have no problem with their donating to any organization! I just have a problem with people knowing this, and eating there regardless. |
So then is the opposite also true? Would you want people to not shop at Amazon since they support gay marriage?
| A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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| Post #5: 3rd Aug 2012 11:33 AM | |
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I have no problem with their donating to any organization! I just have a problem with people knowing this, and eating there regardless. |
So then is the opposite also true? Would you want people to not shop at Amazon since they support gay marriage?
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I think someone supporting equal rights is a lot different than someone actively denying equal rights.
But maybe that's just me. |
Nope not just you, I see your point.
| A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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| Post #6: 3rd Aug 2012 11:46 AM | |
Lol this thread is mild compared to another message board I'm on. They have 16 pages so far on the topic. ;)
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| Post #7: 3rd Aug 2012 12:27 PM | |
I'm guessing few if any considered the Coke product they bought with their sandwich, which I find ironic since Coke supports gay rights. | A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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| Post #8: 5th Aug 2012 10:30 PM | |
I think this depends on whether you are viewing marriage as a religious or legal institution. | A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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Natalie
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| Post #9: 5th Aug 2012 11:02 PM | |
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What we disagree with is the fact that the government has seemingly been systematically eliminating the church's ability to so much as say that we find homosexuality to be a sin. It's another step in a long series of things that appear to be a targeted effort to minimize the church's influence and discredit our beliefs. |
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As I see it, the government is a amoral institution, and it has no business telling anybody what their moral views ought to be. |
I feel like these two statements kind of contradict one another. The separation of church and state isn't a new idea, it's been with us for years. Marriage isn't an exclusively Christian institution, and I think what the homosexual community is more interested in is the legal/governmental recognition of their relationship as a long term commitment. If the issue were keeping marriage as exclusively religious then athiests would also not be allowed to marry. Filing taxes, establishing a will, health coverage, etc. are all legal areas where I believe people should be allowed equal treatment and recognition by the government. I don't think those in any way effect Christians or their personal and religious beliefs on someone elses lifestyle. | A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because no one can gain without sacrificing something. But by enduring that pain and overcoming it, he shall obtain a powerful, unmatched heart. A fullmetal heart. |
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