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Post #1: 7th Feb 2017 7:58 AM 
##Vote: Timmah

Third Party is anti-Town.

Anti-Town needs to die.

Cut and dry.
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Post #2: 7th Feb 2017 8:35 AM 
Timmah @ 7/2/2017 8:16
Mercator @ 7/2/2017 0:39
IMO we should lynch Timmah first, if he's lying about being 3rd party and is actually scum, it would give us more info.
And we don't win until all the threats to the town have been eliminated, so he probably has to die anyway if he's considered a threat?

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##Lynch: Timmah


I'm just a threat to chris. My lynch "target" was randomized, though it is funny that it's chris. I do find it interesting that some people want to go immediately to "lynch Timmah, that's a wrap" (ahem, Helios). Advocating wasting an entire day is a scum move.

The Town's wincon is to eliminate all threats to it. Third Party is a threat.


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Post #3: 7th Feb 2017 9:15 AM 
farlig @ 7/2/2017 8:51
Timmah, no point arguing with Helios. He didn't want to lynch nofo yesterday when nofo claimed town and didn't care that he killed town.

One, that was D2.
Two, I'm not arguing this point with you again. Shit Town is still Town.
(and yes, I'm aware he flipped Mafia. at the time we were discussing this, he didn't look like anything more than asshole trollish Town.)
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Post #4: 7th Feb 2017 9:15 AM 
Timmah @ 7/2/2017 9:13
farlig @ 7/2/2017 8:51
Timmah, no point arguing with Helios. He didn't want to lynch nofo yesterday when nofo claimed town and didn't care that he killed town.


That's because Helios is mafia. You can see it in his inconsistencies, and the fact that he only posts to blend in.

False.

Try again, though.
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Post #5: 7th Feb 2017 10:05 AM 
spindoctor02 @ 7/2/2017 9:53
ASSUMING TIMMAH IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS ROLE...

If he is 3rd Party Lyncher, the only way he wins is by getting his target lynched, right? This means, that both him and Town can both win, if Chris is lynched at some point in the game. It's not an either/or situation, from my understanding of the role.

Here is the epicmafia description of Lyncher: https://epicmafia.com/role/140

*One person in the town irritates him. Selected at random. Mafia cannot be chosen.
*Wins if that person is lynched.
*Wins if town wins, while receiving less points.

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If that is indeed the flavor of his role, Helios, explain again to me how that's "anti-town" and we need to get rid of him right now?


I guess I'm used to a different type of Mafia than you guys are. My win condition says that I win when all threats to the Town are eliminate, which I assume is the standard Town wincon used this game. And to me, that means everything that isn't Town has got to go. I can't wrap my head around this whole "Town can jointly win with third party" thing, because by definition, third party is anti-town.

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Post #6: 7th Feb 2017 10:05 AM 
eliminated*

fucking spelling wtf
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Post #7: 7th Feb 2017 10:08 AM 
Timmah will die at some point this game, because we're NOT letting third party win. That being said, killing Mafia > killing TP, so I'm always open to other options.
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Post #8: 7th Feb 2017 11:34 AM 
Timmah @ 7/2/2017 10:44
Helios Garabandia @ 7/2/2017 10:05
spindoctor02 @ 7/2/2017 9:53
ASSUMING TIMMAH IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS ROLE...

If he is 3rd Party Lyncher, the only way he wins is by getting his target lynched, right? This means, that both him and Town can both win, if Chris is lynched at some point in the game. It's not an either/or situation, from my understanding of the role.

Here is the epicmafia description of Lyncher: https://epicmafia.com/role/140

*One person in the town irritates him. Selected at random. Mafia cannot be chosen.
*Wins if that person is lynched.
*Wins if town wins, while receiving less points.

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If that is indeed the flavor of his role, Helios, explain again to me how that's "anti-town" and we need to get rid of him right now?


I guess I'm used to a different type of Mafia than you guys are. My win condition says that I win when all threats to the Town are eliminate, which I assume is the standard Town wincon used this game. And to me, that means everything that isn't Town has got to go. I can't wrap my head around this whole "Town can jointly win with third party" thing, because by definition, third party is anti-town.



What if Chris is not town? Then how am I a threat to town?

What if we lynch Chris and I win and am removed from the game. The game will not stop, AND TOWN CAN STILL WIN.

It's not rocket science.

Bolded the problem for ya, right there. You do not get to win.
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Post #9: 7th Feb 2017 11:35 AM 
If this is an EM scenario, then yes, Chris is Town, since EM Lynchers aren't not assigned Mafia to kill.

That...is interesting though.
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Post #10: 7th Feb 2017 1:46 PM 
Christian @ 7/2/2017 13:40
ahoda @ 7/2/2017 13:38
Welcome back Christian. I guess the game can continue on with the lesser mod.

I'll never forgot Zersch and his amazing job!


yes, I apologize that you have to deal with me again.

Clearly, Christian is today's actual Lynch target...
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Post #11: 7th Feb 2017 1:57 PM 
Mittens @ 7/2/2017 13:52
I was blocked, btw, so thanks for that :)

Wait, didn't someone else claimed blocked today?
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Post #12: 7th Feb 2017 1:58 PM 
Ah, looks like it was Spin.

So Spin and Mittens were both blocked. Hmmm....
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Post #13: 7th Feb 2017 10:11 PM 
##Unvote: Timmah
You'll definitely get yours, but killing Mafia is ALWAYS more important than killing third party.
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Post #14: 7th Feb 2017 10:19 PM 
Darren Sanders @ 7/2/2017 20:16
Lamps saw J$ visit Spin, spin claims blocked. J$ kinda feeds that he is waiting for Badger and then badger claims blocked

Mittens out of nowhere claims blocked.

Is this accurate? Is this how everyone claimed? There were a whole bunch of claims that came out all at once, and it kind of confused me a bit.

See, now I'm torn again. Do I want to lynch one of the people who claimed blocked, because I don't believe three people were blocked? If so, then it's going to be Mittens, who seems to be the odd man out. Or do I want to lynch J$, who is looking more and more like Mafia every second?
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Post #15: 7th Feb 2017 10:20 PM 
Buffy @ 7/2/2017 20:19
I would hope Christian didn't put a Mafia Bus Driver game in with a Town Re-Director but it's happened before. :)

This is not a Helios game tbqh. (:
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