I don't think of Alien as a horror movie because it wasn't scary. The action was so over the top, that I associate it with that.


The difference is I DGAF about building a definition or convincing curry of that.

Primate @ 16/8/2018 10:49

There are counters to most of Vlady's arguments. -It doesn't invoke the fear of getting your starcruiser hijacked by monsters. It DOES play the universal fear of the unknown. -Scott actually did try to "scare the shit out of people" with this movie. -etc, etc, etc. Instead of doing that, he quotes a half baked wiki link and calls vlady a poophead. COnclusion: Curtis is lazy and kind of a child.

Now *here* we actually have an argument worth addressing! Which I shall do after I go get cleaned up instead of playing Discord Dungeon like I've been doing for the past two hours.

ET has alien monsters, scary government entities and jump scares.

Just saying.

And Sigourney Weaver being one of the first truly bad assed female hero characters.

That makes the movie a classic. The action, the horror, the sci-fi elements are a background.

Well if this convo wasn’t worth it before it certainly isn’t now that Primate is here

See I view this like Jackson Pollock's "art". Most of it is crap I could make myself by dribbling art on a canvas on my floor. I could also paint over cockroaches and flies that land on my canvas. It's not art- it's crap that Jackson Pollock and Co. marketed as "art"; no matter how much people pay for it or faun over it, it is still mostly a lot of crap work.

Curtis using someone else's definition or even how a film is marketed is not an acceptable argument, any more than I will accept this as "art":

vladykins @ 16/8/2018 12:15

See I view this like Jackson Pollock's "art".

lolno you don't

Primate @ 16/8/2018 11:52

The action was so over the top

No it wasn't

Curtis @ 16/8/2018 10:20

Primate @ 16/8/2018 11:52 The action was so over the top No it wasn't

Such a great argument.
Are you sticking your tongue out at me?

Curtis @ 16/8/2018 11:16

vladykins @ 16/8/2018 12:15 See I view this like Jackson Pollock's "art". lolno you don't

Yes I do. Now you are telling me what my opinions are when you can't even formulate your own?

Primate @ 16/8/2018 12:25

Curtis @ 16/8/2018 10:20 Primate @ 16/8/2018 11:52 The action was so over the top No it wasn't Such a great argument. Are you sticking your tongue out at me?

It literally wasn't

Do you really think Alien was an over the top action movie

vladykins @ 16/8/2018 12:26

Curtis @ 16/8/2018 11:16 vladykins @ 16/8/2018 12:15 See I view this like Jackson Pollock's "art". lolno you don't Yes I do. Now you are telling me what my opinions are when you can't even formulate your own?

You told me I'm not allowed to be afraid of aliens or deep space because it isn't realistic compared to demons and exorcisms :( :(

I wouldn't pay for a pollock unless I could buy low and sell high.

I wouldn't say it isn't art, as art is just expression and doesn't become less so because it looks shitty to you and I.

Primate @ 16/8/2018 12:30

I wouldn't pay for a pollock unless I could buy low and sell high. I wouldn't say it isn't art, as art is just expression and doesn't become less so because it looks shitty to you and I.

+1 primate gj

Kinda like the definition that I DID give the first time we had this conversation in that other thread, how defining a horror movie has a lot to do with the INTENT from the filmmakers. If they intend for it to be a horror movie, which Ridley Scott 100% did, then it's a horror movie

If you don't find a comedy funny that doesn't mean it isn't a comedy
If you don't find a horror movie scary that doesn't mean it isn't a horror movie

Curtis @ 16/8/2018 10:26

Primate @ 16/8/2018 12:25 Curtis @ 16/8/2018 10:20 Primate @ 16/8/2018 11:52 The action was so over the top No it wasn't Such a great argument. Are you sticking your tongue out at me? It literally wasn't Do you really think Alien was an over the top action movie

I didn't say that. I said the action was over the top. Super fast paced, super violent, surprising, even shocking at times. Yes the action was over the top in a really great way. Action is what I think of when I remember that movie. And the aforementioned cultural signifigance of a heroine who went full on beast mode for 2 hours straight..