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Gilderoy Lockhart
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| Post #1: 16th Mar 2018 4:15:46 AM | |
Did you miss me?
Congratulations to all three of you, making the end is no easy feat. You’ve all clearly done something right to be here, so don’t let anyone take that away from you. Now, I’ll level with the three of you: I think Mira played the best game. You do, however, have the chance to sway my vote with your answers to my questions for each of you here, so don’t throw it away. It’s not set in stone, the jury hasn’t locked it in. My questions aren’t going to be softballs either - I like all three of you as people, but there’s things I need to know from each of you. Also, please please PLEASE don’t lie. FTC is where you gotta be honest, and if the jury sniffs out any lies, you’ll probably lose.
Let’s start with the fish. Mira, you’re wonderful. I’m shocked that you’re here, and I said I would vote for you at FTC back at F12. Make them come true. My question for you is, you were extremely reliant on items all game. Do you think that needing multiple items weakens your game in any way, shape, or form?
Draco, I have to see, I’m surprised to see you here. It’s a happy surprise, but it feels like you consistently were left out and had a harder path to the end than most. You never seemed to give up, and seemingly tried your hardest, which is good - but this isn’t about who tried the hardest. Why should I vote for you, when Mira and Ron both seemingly played better? What do you have that they don’t?
Ronald, my son. I’m so proud to see you here. I predicted you as the winner after I left, and you’re halfway there. All you need to do is seal up the game...which I don’t think you will do. Multiple jurors have criticized your social game in the jury, because you consistently reassured people and made promises to them, only to cut them out. You also let Mira, the single biggest threat, make it to FTC. That screams negligent to me, and you have a massive uphill battle to get this win. You had an amazing golden ticket in the Lockhart boot as your key resume piece, but you’ve seemingly done nothing else all game besides burn bridges. My two questions are why did you let Mira make the end and why did you (seemingly) do nothing else after I left?
Now, for all three of you. To me, the game looked BORING after Angelina’s boot. Multiple jurors have said the game was boring after Angelina left. I want to know, from the three of you: did you think the game got boring after Angelina left? If you do believe it got boring, what did you do to try and make it more interesting?
Best of luck to all of you, I’m excited to see your answers to both my question and the questions of the other jurors.
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Ron Weasley
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| Post #2: 16th Mar 2018 5:03:36 AM | |
~*Ron’s Answer to Lockhart Part #1*~
Firstly, Thank you so much for the questions! I would like to say that you were such an interesting journey for myself. I had this hatred for the way you were playing the game (and how it was affecting me) but loved talking to you every day. It was such a mind-fuck. Thank you for that experience.
You had an amazing golden ticket in the Lockhart boot as your key resume piece, but you’ve seemingly done nothing else all game besides burn bridges. My two questions are why did you let Mira make the end and why did you (seemingly) do nothing else after I left?
I agree that that moment was a huge “showey” play. The only real one that I could potentially take 100% credit for. I would disagree with that being my only major move in the merge. I thank you for this question, so I can highlight my merge game in more detail:
My entire goal was to play the middle during merge. I did not come into the merge wanting to play this with Newt/Draco/Mira, per the Snape vote. I wanted to join back up with Cormac/Fred/Pomfrey. I did that successfully. I had an alliance with Fred and Pomfrey that during the major part of this merge, it was my primary success. I was able to gain information on what yourself, Angelina, and Maxime were doing on other sides of this game. Primarily from Fred/Pomfrey. This sealed the deal with trust in them over Cormac who I also entered merge really wanting to work with. Cormac did not offer up information to me until it was too late in the game. I knew they were willing to work with me during the Newt vote. I knew they had my back to keep me off the danger-end of being eliminated. Going into the top 11, you starting that chat with Draco/Myself..I used that to take you out. Obviously to save the people I wanted to play this game with: Fred and Pomfrey
Here is the chat transcript of flipping the vote to Lockhart for anyone needing to read this portion(It isn’t too long, I just don’t want to clog this post:
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Madame Olympe Maxime [7:42 PM]
Ron
Are you broken
I just want Fred not to kill me
If I don’t vote him out
Ron Weasley [7:44 PM]
WHy do u think he will kill u
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:44 PM]
Because I think he knows I want him out
Ron Weasley [7:45 PM]
Well u never voted him
i voted amos and lily
and htey r still in here too
but i know what u mean
i honestly think if we voted lockhart, and this somehow worked it would legit b hystertical and amazing.
and the perfect ending to his reign of terror.
can i bring something up
and u guys dont say a word
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:46 PM]
Can I be honest
Ron Weasley [7:46 PM]
r u both here
go ahead
Mirabella Plunkett [7:46 PM]
gilderoy tells me every day he wants to vote me out
Ron Weasley [7:46 PM]
go sahead b honest, and then i will share
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:46 PM]
Lockhart probably didn’t give Angie his idol
Ron Weasley [7:46 PM]
something that stays in here. legit doesnt leave.
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:46 PM]
I think it was a show
Mirabella Plunkett [7:47 PM]
@Host Cedric
Ron Weasley [7:47 PM]
the immunity?
well can i say something that does not leave this chat
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:47 PM]
Yes
Ron
Mirabella Plunkett [7:47 PM]
Yes
Ron Weasley [7:47 PM]
promise
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:47 PM]
You are my lifeline
Ron Weasley [7:48 PM]
like please
okay
well
Lockhart told me like 4 hours ago that maxim, u have the huffle idol. and that he wants fred to go, so he isnt mentioning it to anyone other then draco/me, draco never responded to the chat yet but i told him i wouldnt say a word.
so i think we need to turn this on lockhart and let him go if this is real
and u do have it
and u guys r both using idols
and they r splitting on u
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:48 PM]
Lmao
Ron Weasley [7:48 PM]
why not bomb his plan?
Mirabella Plunkett [7:48 PM]
Jesus
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:49 PM]
Ok
Tell me more
Ron Weasley [7:49 PM]
He made a chat
with draco and me
called threehonestboiis
and said the following
Gilderoy Lockhart [2:03 PM]
Maxime has the Hufflepuff idol
And will be playing it
She and Mira are gonna go for Fred or Pomfrey
I’m letting you guys know so it won’t be a shock
But I think we should still split on Maxime and Mira
If we don’t, and they don’t play idols
Then the same gets insanely more difficult
later on 1:1 he told me
he prefers fred to go
He is playing everyone
in this game
and if we take him out, we take out the entire bulshitter and open thing sup for us 3
in this game
Mirabella Plunkett [7:50 PM]
If they all want fred gone I want fred to stay
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:50 PM]
Fine
Ron Weasley [7:50 PM]
They r okay
with pomfrey or fred going
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:50 PM]
But I’m blowing this up
Ron Weasley [7:50 PM]
because he is with angelina/lily/amos
blowing this up when
after the tribal?
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:51 PM]
Hmmm
Ron Weasley [7:51 PM]
we have to blindside them
if u blow it up
they arent splitting votes
they r voting me.
Me telling u this was so we dont vote fred. and to confirm if its true. because if its
we could potentially have the 3 key votes
to pick someoen to go
i ideally think it should b lockhart
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:51 PM]
Ok
Fine
You are no floater Ron
You are brilliant and smart
Ron Weasley [7:52 PM]
Im no floater, i am with u guys.
LOL
but if its true
and u told angelina
it confirms
lockhart/angelina r closer then ever.
pomfrey believes she is close to angelina
lily/amos are close to lockhart/angelina
we have to take out lockhart
if we cant take out angelina, IMO
i like angelina, but they r in SO much stuff
all at once.
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:53 PM]
Why is Gilderoy so extra
Ron Weasley [7:54 PM]
he has been extra for awhile lmao. rita vote
was the start of it for me
i like him so much, but he has screwed me over and lies for fun
Lets blindside him and get revenge for newt. and us 3 stay solid no matter wat BS happens after this.
Mirabella Plunkett [7:54 PM]
Honestly his extraness would get him booted next if we vote for pom and then tell everyone it was gilderoy's idol
Lol
Ron Weasley [7:54 PM]
see i dont think so.
lockhart has angelina, lily, and amos
and i think lily/cormac r close
Mirabella Plunkett [7:55 PM]
But I'll be happy to be rid of his headache
Ron Weasley [7:55 PM]
pomfrey out
Mirabella Plunkett [7:55 PM]
Okay let's do lock
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:55 PM]
I love that man
Ron Weasley [7:55 PM]
it makes fred/draco our only choices
and draco is so MIA
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:55 PM]
But he is a shite
Ron Weasley [7:55 PM]
i feel the same maxime
honestly
like 1:1 he is so fucking funt o tlk to
but he is such a hot mess in the game
Mirabella Plunkett [7:55 PM]
1000%
Ron Weasley [7:55 PM]
i think if u want to blow stuff up maxime
do it when we r waiting for results
like 9:31
or something
lmao
can we confirm tho, lockhart gave his immunity to angelina @Host Cedric
@Host Hermione
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:57 PM]
He hasn’t even told me how to use my idol
Mirabella Plunkett [7:57 PM]
Post in voting confessional
Ron Weasley [7:57 PM]
I just hope u guys r the ones getting votes :X i think and hope u r though
Madame Olympe Maxime [7:59 PM]
Like with my vote?
Mirabella Plunkett [7:59 PM]
Yes |
Moving into the top 10. At this point, Angelina had items for the Slytherin idol due to me giving her everything that Mirabella was giving me. I was using that to bond with Angelina. I feel like this is a strong game move, socially. It gained Angelina’s trust in me in a very crucial round. A round post-your elimination where I could have been deemed a threat by her to get Lily/Cormac/Herself/Amos against me. (At this point, Cormac was very MIA with me and I did not know where he stood with this group)
The entire fear here was Mira/Maxime/Angelina all catching on to the fact that the “middle bitches” had such a huge part to this game. That Fred/Pomfrey/Myself had all the knowledge and held the key to what was happening. They never seemed to piece this together due to our ability to keep them in the dark about how close we were.
Pomfrey found out that Maxime was targeting her/Fred so the vote was swapping from Amos to Maxime. Everyone other than Mira was supposed to know—because of the risk of Mira telling Maxime of course and saving her.
Going into the top 9
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My entire goal has been to bond with Lily/Angelina and it has been working very well. I feel like Angelina is truly trusting me and wanting me around. I know Her and Draco have gotten close and I am trying to show my worth to her. If she thinks I am a better ally in this game then Draco..then she will want to split the votes on Draco instead of me. I also don't think Lily would vote me? And I am hoping Cormac wouldn't want me out?
Speaking of Cormac = is he alive??? Between Draco being MIA for 23 hours of the day and Cormac..we have some goats in here!!!
Angelina: I am telling her that Mira needs to go, but that we need to split the votes. Ideally on Draco. She tells me that Pomfrey suggested splitting votes onto me with majority on Mira(Which Pomfrey tells me is a lie and supplies me with the chat transcript to back this up) = showing Angelina is a liar. I bond with Angelina, she tells me Lily loves me, and that her and Lily have my back
Lily: Told me she is voting for Mira. She agreed with the Draco split vote, bonding about every day life stuff, etc.
Fred: Voting Angelina with Pomfrey/me/Mira, saving the petrify till next round when we might need it more.
Pomfrey: My #1 in this game, obviously knowing everything. We are confusing each other and everyone around us to get to the gold.
Mira: She is trying to make this Angelina move about her using the idol. She is so focused on this being HER move that I think she is not realizing that we could have just voted Amos and she could have saved her idol till next round??
Amos: Trying to bond with him, telling him I am not voting him. Told him that Draco is, again, mentioning his name. Telling him that Mira needs to go.
Draco: Told me he wants Amos to go and basically disappears. I tell him Mira is majority, and he still says he wants Amos to go but will vote Mirabella if it is majority
Cormac: Please come alive, you use to be so awesome.
--My ultimate ideal final three would be Pomfrey/Fred/Myself,. I think it would be an amazing group at the end, with no random floaters of Draco/Cormac/Lily slipping in. Ideally, with this blindside we will see the final idol get played and Angelina out the door. This leaves a Final 8 with an easy Amos vote if we need. We still have Fred's petrify to also use. That is my sights right now. I want to reach Top 7 and re-assess where everyone is at. I think I will have some moves with Lily still, even though she may be put off by Angelina leaving.
Funny, quirky, hungry Ron = bonding with everyone. Nobody can beat my fast fingers.
If Pomfrey/Fred are told to vote me for the split = they then vote Angelina. It causes no votes to be on me. I wouldn't mind this--I just want to avoid having any votes on me at all. I want everyone to always be targeting someone else over me. That is my main game play and I am hoping I can make it hold up here. Even one vote on me is making it so my game isn't working as well as it should.
Amos should be after Mira, but also Draco.
Pomfrey/Fred should be after Angelina, but also Amos/Lily/Mira prior to me.
Lily should be after Mira, but also Draco/Fred/Pomfrey before me.
Angelina should be after Mira, but also Fred/Pomfrey before me.
Mira should be after Angelina, but also after Pomfrey/Fred/Amos before me.
Draco should be after Mira, but also after Amos.
Etc.
Always keep them off of you as long as possible!!! OMG im so tired. |
Please read this part of a confessional I did at this part of the game to describe my feelings at this point. I was working Angelina/Lily so much at this point to keep the votes on Draco over myself. Using the bond I was forming with Lily(Someone who I had voted 2 times at this point) and Angelina(who has no reason to want me in the game at this point). Draco, someone who started to really trust Angelina, got the votes instead of me.
Ultimately, Angelina had to go this round = it wasn’t about Mira using her idol and taking Angelina out, Pomfrey/Me/Fred wanted Angelina out just as much. If not more. I had more need for Mira in this game then Angelina = ultimately, Angelina was a chore. Mira was easy = Mira knew I was with her, as far as she was concerned. There is never any concern with Mira/Draco in this middle part of merge, if they survived=they would always be a backup plan to my main goal of Fred/Pomfrey/Ron final 3, or later on turning into a Cormac/Draco/Ron want.
8th Place: Amos: This was to take out someone in the game that was not an ally, I had no potential with to go to the end. I had a potential Final deal with everyone else in the Final 7(minus Lily which I will get to in a second)
7th Place Lily: Lily is someone I, at one point, thought of trying to goat a bit further. She wasn’t as useable as I had once hoped she would be. Cormac/Draco at this point were more useable and trustworthy to me. I feel like we made it a long way 1:1, I was keeping that option open. She may have thought I screwed her, but I never once lied to her on that: I told her she was leaving, when she was leaving.
Ultimately, I think my entire game was making people trust me, want others’ out before me = it was a social game, it was to get you to laugh and joke with me to the point where you would never think I would vote you out to leave.
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If Lily doesn't use this invisible cloak thing she should be gone. It just seems to be the best thing. Mirabella/Draco/Cormac are potentials in the future for me as needed along with Fred/Pomfrey/Me being like a core three. I think Mirabella really has the backs' of Pomfrey/Fred right now as well, and I have hinted to possibly doing Draco/Her/Me in the future. Cormac has mentioned to possibly do Draco/Him/Me in the future. Lily has legit had no plans, no alliances that she wants to do. No ultimate goals, other then that she loves me x100000 with a zillion hearts attached.
She is a nice girl, but I don't have any reason to want her in the top 6 over the other 5 people here. I am hoping nothing shady will go down and gotta keep my ears open!! <3 |
Cormac 6th = I explained this before in the opening statement. But ultimately, I had every chance at making it to the final 3. I was the safest person sitting in the top 6. I had no way to not get there if I played my cards right. My ideal entering it was a Cormac/Draco/Myself at this point. I swapped my opinion of wanting Pomfrey/Fred because I was seeing Cormac/Draco as such goats in this game. I thought back and forth if I wanted to have goats in the end, I do feel like I played a good enough game to go against others. Don’t you want to play against the best to win against them? But then why take someone like Mira to the end who has such a different gamestyle of items, fake and real, and immunity wins. It was just a huge toss-up and decision to have to make. Ultimately, I feared a Fred/Cormac/Draco situation. The one thing I couldn’t help preventing if Cormac/Draco suddenly had that thought as their best chance. Therefore, Cormac was the easiest to go without fucking up my allies of Mira/Draco/Me, Pomfrey/Fred/Me alliances as potential. I felt that Cormac leaving got rid of that last" loop-hole" of not making it to the end: Cormac/Draco trying to do something with Fred.
Final 5/Final 4: Pomfrey/Me were 100% voting for Mira if she lost either challenge. Draco would have also done this. Fred would have also done this. It was the goal. Her winning these challenges, got her to the point in the game. She would not be in the Final 3 without those 2 challenge wins. 100%.
Ideally, Mira would have been 5th place. I would have had to talk to Draco about either Fred or Pomfrey in the end with us. Or go to the end with Fred/Pomfrey/Myself
Instead, Mira won the challenge. Fred went home. Pomfrey was on the same page of needing Mira to go at Final 4. Fred at this point checked out of the game during this live round.
Final 4: Mira won the challenge again. Pomfrey was going to be voted out due to that original alliance of Draco/Mira way back when as my back up plan to the Fred/Pomfrey/Ron deal or the Cormac/Draco/Ron ideal.
My game wasn’t about this idol blindside, or that fake item. My game was a social game. It was strategy every single moment, and every single round. The Lockhart, Maxime, Angelina, Amos, Lily, Cormac boots were all my decisions. They were all what I needed to have happen to get me here right now.
Fred/Pomfrey were out of the final immunity wins to advance myself the best way possible.
I hope this explains my gameplay better. I hope this shows the social moves that I made and how they should be appreciated.
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Gilderoy Lockhart
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| Post #3: 16th Mar 2018 5:08:52 AM | |
Thanks Ronnie BB, I appreciate the thoughtful response
Update: don’t forget part 2 💖
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Ron Weasley
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| Post #4: 16th Mar 2018 5:30:36 AM | |
~*Ron’s Answer to Lockhart Part #2*~
Now, for all three of you. To me, the game looked BORING after Angelina’s boot. Multiple jurors have said the game was boring after Angelina left. I want to know, from the three of you: did you think the game got boring after Angelina left? If you do believe it got boring, what did you do to try and make it more interesting?
I am very happy that you bring up this point. This played on my mind towards the end but ultimately didn't change the way I played the game. Pomfrey, Mira, and myself were the most social on a day to day basis after Angelina left. Fred dropped in activity, Cormac was hit or miss for a bit, Lily was hit or miss, Draco popped on the last hour of the day.
To survive emotionally in a boring environment is hard. To have 12 hours of conversations with Pomfrey/Mirabella, 2 hours with Cormac, and then Fred/Draco popping online in the last hour of the Final 6. That isn’t fun. It makes you want to cuss people out for suddenly wanting to play the game in the last 30 minutes when we have been waiting for you to get online for 11 hours (not waiting, cuz at this point we basically knew it was happening with Draco).
The struggle with this is: You want to play the game you choose to play. For Pomfrey and myself. Our game was to get to the end with Fred, potentially Lily/Cormac/Draco as goats. That was the goal. We dropped Lily early because she wasn’t goat-able and more wildcard. Cormac was dropped because of the potential of a Draco/Fred thing. Mira then won both Final challenges. Through this entire thing, you have Pomfrey and me talking about how boring everyone has been. We have Mira/Pomfrey/Me watching black mirror episodes as nobody else signs online for like 6-7 hours straight. It is boring. I have a confessional with images of Maxime/Lockhart saying: If I get blindsided, at least I go somewhere more fun than this shithole.
The thing is: I wasn’t going to make a huge move to blindside Pomfrey at Final 7 or Final 6 to make it more interesting. Fred at the later stages of merge became more absent. Draco throughout the entire merge was absent. A this point of Final 7/Final 6, this was the game I chose to surround myself in. It was the way I had to stand by as I moved forward. I didn’t want to make it interesting. If Mirabella left at Final 7, it would be the same boredom Final 6 on wards. If we bounced Mira at Final 6 instead of Cormac, it would be that same boredom. It was, what it was. I think it was the people we chose to bring forward in the game versus the people we chose to take out (the bigger characters were the bigger players).
Thanks, and let me know if you need any clarification or further questions.
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Draco Malfoy
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| Post #5: 16th Mar 2018 6:05:12 AM | |
Draco, I have to say, I’m surprised to see you here. It’s a happy surprise, but it feels like you consistently were left out and had a harder path to the end than most. You never seemed to give up, and seemingly tried your hardest, which is good - but this isn’t about who tried the hardest. Why should I vote for you, when Mira and Ron both seemingly played better? What do you have that they don’t?
I feel like you said it right there, seemingly. I think my game is unique, I think it started off strong and then I was able to become almost under the radar, almost because I was still voted for multiple times.
What I have that they don't is "lack of worry" I'm not saying I wasn't ever worried, but they voted and played as if they were nervous. I was able to vote, be honest, sure I was mislead and lied to.( Other than Snape, I don't think I ever really lied? And Dudley.) I'm not saying that's a reason that I didn't worry, but what do I have to lose if I'm honest? Even if I did make a bigger impression when I was lying to them, I think it set a tone for a more honest game... which is maybe why I was mislead and lied to?
I think my game is somewhat of a missed opportunity but I'm still here at the end which goes to say something. I could have been used as a vote to get Amos tied with Newt, if everyone had just been honest like I was to them. I think even though I was voted for many times, I wasn't ever worried of actually leaving, I had allies that I knew wouldn't vote for me, and unless it was like a crazy vote where the majority of votes were like 4, I knew not to look over my shoulder.
Mirabella, Ron and I were actually in an alliance for awhile, where we exchanged information about polyjuice potion and exchanged items, Mirabella said that she didn't didn't get it and messed up, a moment later Ron told me that she was still waiting for an answer from Cedric and then was followed by Angelina telling me that the idol was found, while I agreed with Angelina that it was probably Mirabella, I never brought it up to Mirabella just cause I didn't think it was appropriate to pressure bringing it up, she told me that she didn't have it even though I knew otherwise, small things like that aren't the keys to winning, but small things like that get you to the end, knowledge is power, and even then brief things you and I discussed, I kept between you and I, that information was for me to use at my will and I didn't think exposing anything about our relationship, even a little.
I feel like my game was similar to Sandra and Fabio, I was open and ready for bigger moves. And moves that I had hoped would happen earlier, but I managed to survive and made it to the end rather than control every situation. And that's a matter to you, what kind of winner do you want to have? When Cormac left I had talked to Ron and Pomfrey about pulling the trigger on either Fred OR Mirabella and when push came to shove, I was the only one willing to make the move with Cormac, (even if it wasn't eliminating the greater target of Mira) Pomfrey and Ron should've been comfortable with it, there was nothing to lose with the choice of Fred or Mira and I knew I wasn't in jeopardy of leaving if I voted in the minority, I hadn't been worried before.
I was incredibly happy with the performance that I gave in the pre-merge and think I was cast aside during the merge some votes, targeted often and although I tried hard, I don't think I ultimately was "trying." I wasn't scraping or doing the bare minimum either, this game I was setting my own pace and I fell behind at times (in the grand scheme of the pact,) but I always caught back up. I'm proud of the immunity win I won, despite how random it was.
I don't have flashy items and threat notoriety, I'm not a social threat that is going to promise you unwarranted promises, I'm going to be honest with you as you. And if you're going to vote for me as the elimination vote, then I'm off the hook because you're not going to explain it to me and I don't have to explain it to you, but I'm staying and you're not.
Gilderoy Lockhart, the reason that you should vote for me, is my honesty, my pizazz, what you see is what you get. Here's a bowl of ice cream, either you like it or you don't. I think I was able to have a fine relationship with everyone, maybe not the most social but I think I was always a friendly face (after premerge.) I think you can get caught up in flashyness of game play but ultimately, what kind of winner do you want?
Now, for all three of you. To me, the game looked BORING after Angelina’s boot. Multiple jurors have said the game was boring after either Angelina left. I want to know, from the three of you: did you think the game got boring after Angelina left? If you do believe it got boring, what did you do to try and make it more interesting?
Well I won Immunity, which was boring but in an exciting way.
I'll tell you, I do think it got a little boring, but for the right reasons, Draco needed a way to make it to the end, with Lily and Amos following- there wasn't an issue. But I knew it could be more boring and I wanted to make it even more boring for myself to prevail. By that I mean, I tried voting Mirabella out at 6 with Pomfrey/Ron or Fred out at 6 with Cormac/Pomfrey/Fred. Mirabella had been telling people about some item?? Where she could like vote swap? I don't even know what that means, but everyone was really paranoid about it, I did my best to sway that vote. I was mobile and on a roadtrip, decided to become the passenger cause I couldn't handle Astoria texting for me so I had her pull over so I could try and talk it out with them. I also tried being blunt that round, it was our first opportunity to perform in front of the jury, so when Cedric asked, "Who is the greatest threat?" I was honest.... Draco was making it to FTC no matter what, and then the second person (depending on that Immunity Necklace)... was Mirabella.
IDK, I've been drinking a little while I've been answering this so I hope its not too wacky and here and there but I really think you can respect this vote and my answers because they've been honest. I am really excited to answer more and see how everyone perceived the rest of the game, if I was the least deserving finalists in your eyes, I hope these answers and the answers to follow can shine a little light and prove to you why I deserve the win and can contradict your preceding thoughts! Thanks so much GL! | |
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Mirabella Plunkett
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| Post #6: 16th Mar 2018 6:26:14 AM | |
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Let’s start with the fish. Mira, you’re wonderful. I’m shocked that you’re here, and I said I would vote for you at FTC back at F12. Make them come true. My question for you is, you were extremely reliant on items all game. Do you think that needing multiple items weakens your game in any way, shape, or form? |
That's a good question for me, it's definitely something I need to address at this final tribal.
First of all, while I had two real items in the game (both idols), I basically threw one away at F8 on a vote I was pretty certain would result in Angelina going home regardless. I was confident enough in my game without items that I felt I had a comfortable path to f6 without it and didn't want the extra threat status that another public idol would give to me. I needed my group of 4 to trust me and dumping the Slytherin idol helped make them comfortable enough to stick with me in the medium term. So I didn't really need that item, although I don't regret putting all the effort I did into getting it since it helped me make my case for why people should work with me to vote out Angelina at F9.
The Gryffindor Idol was linked to me for the first 8 rounds of the season however, and there's no doubt that me having it affected a lot of voting outcomes in the game. But I don't think the way I used it hurts my resume. Anyone could have tried to have that idol, but 15 out of 18 players declined because they didn't want the target that a public idol puts on you (or, in the case of Albus, they presumably forgot the url for the board). I took a risk by grabbing it, and it came with advantages and disadvantages, but it was a tactical decision and the results showed that I demonstrated strategic prowess in my handling of it.
How often do you see someone manage to openly hold a public idol for 8 consecutive rounds in an ORG?
I knew that I wanted to play a pretty bold game and would draw a target sooner or later, so I deliberately went for the public idol with plans to use it to make it as uncomfortable as possible for anyone to target me in a vote. It was a similar strategy to Yul Kwon's decision to make his idol public in Cook Islands, and while the special idol he had was more powerful than mine here, the premise of the gambit is to make others worried that they could go home if they try to rally votes against you. It worked against you when you wasted the idol nullifier on me in the Snape round, it worked against the big alliance that voted for Newt instead of me at merge, and it worked again when Draco got more votes than me in Angelina's boot round because of further idol worries. I used the threat of an idol more than I used actual idols to protect myself, and I could have used my various item bluffing schemes to create a similar threat without actually possessing items if I needed to (as I did at F6/F5).
I don't think having had items or not had items is by itself a positive or a negative factor when it comes to deserving a jury vote, I think it's more important to look at whether a player uses them intelligently to advance their game or not. I wasn't the only person in this game to hold two items (You had an idol and an idol nullifier and I believe Amos had an idol and a cloak, Maxime had an idol and a challenge advantage and Lily had a double vote and a cloak), but I was the only person who was able to effectively use my items to advance myself into a seat at FTC.
And finally, I would like to point out that both Ron and Draco had access to all of the potion ingredients for the Slytherin idol at exactly the same time as me and neither of them even bothered to attempt the recipe to collect the idol. They both had every opportunity I had to get both of the items I held in this game, and the fact that I got the Slytherin idol when they did not doesn't make me luckier than them. It just shows that I was willing to put in the extra effort to complete that strenuous list of potion steps when they were not.
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Now, for all three of you. To me, the game looked BORING after Angelina’s boot. Multiple jurors have said the game was boring after either Angelina left. I want to know, from the three of you: did you think the game got boring after Angelina left? If you do believe it got boring, what did you do to try and make it more interesting? |
OMG I was so certain you would ask this question and I love you for it <3
I absolutely felt that this game got boring after Angelina left. Absolutely.
I think it's incredibly clear that there were four players in this game that were determined to liven things up, take risks, take initiative and do their best to entertain the viewers.
You, Snape, Angelina and Me.
All four of us put an incredible amount of time and energy into this game and were willing to accept the risks that come with being high-visibility in order to do some creative and ambitious things that would be remembered. And I have a ton of respect for that type of approach. I wrote a rather flowery eulogy for you specifically in my confessional because I feel like you played with the type of creative boldness that I am constantly striving to achieve. The biggest difference, perhaps, was that you were brave enough to shake things up in plain sight while my craziest antics were often things that couldn't be traced back to me, like the fake instagram account and the fake Ravenclaw Idol. I can't imagine how fun it would have been to watch twelve players desperately confessing random guesses about an instagram account that has nothing to do with the game, but I got a barrage of slack messages from people speculating about it and I was laughing for two days straight.
It was tragic that I didn't get to spend much time on the same side as the other three of you, but I can guarantee you that Mirabella vs. Snape will go down as one of the biggest and most entertaining arcs of the pre-merge and the Mirabella vs. Angelina arc would be right up there for rivalry of the season. Lockhart vs. Lockhart might be the best of all.
Unfortunately, all those arcs resolved themselves by the time F8 arrived, there weren't really many explosive rivalries left and to be perfectly honest I found myself in a powerful but precarious position that would have become a lot more precarious if the status quo got overturned too early. With the huge threat tattoo I was wearing, openly shit disturbing and shaking things up would have gotten me targeted pretty quickly. But that doesn't mean there wasn't things I could do to try and add some spice, and I still tried to be active doing things like:
- As I mentioned, I pretended I got a vote switcher from the Instagram account and I bluffed that I was going to use it at F6, then again at F5. This made a lot of people uncomfortable and the F6 round was by far the most interesting post-Angelina round because for a couple of hours before deadline, Cormac did a great job trying to scramble to protect himself and the vote switcher idea freaked a lot of people out. Pomfrey tried to take him up on the offer and attempted to get the vote on Fred and very briefly even on me. It ended up at the same result as expected, but it was a fairly wild round.
- I spread a couple of rumours of various teams being hatched, most notably trying to convince pomfrey that there was a Ron/Draco/Cormac F3 deal that I just made up out of thin air. This sort of thing made people a lot more anxious and uncomfortable I think, but even as I was able to make people suspicious of each other, most of the people still in the game were pretty reluctant to take the initiative to propose new vote targets, so things tended to stay the course.
- I spread rumors that me and you had had a big fight when you were voted out and had fun inventing taunts that we supposedly said to each other in the heat of the moment. I think my favourite was telling people you called me "the world's first and worst water-breathing rat." I even mentioned it in my public rites of passage because the other f4 players could see those. Yes, that served the purpose of trying to convince people I had an extra enemy on the jury and was less of a threat, but it was also a running joke I shared with the viewers and used to pass the time.
- Most importantly, I tried my best to confess like crazy and think of new ways to do funny things in there, like bringing back my drunk tarot readings and trying to get other players to say catchphrases that the PWs suggested. No one else was really scrambling much, and some people were even offline a lot during those rounds, so I couldn't always do a lot to liven up slack, but at the very least I tried to always find ways to make things interesting for the viewers, even if it had to be in my confessional.
There was some stuff happening in-game that you wouldn't necessarily have seen from Ponderosa, but it wasn't close to the same level of drama as the early merge rounds and I want you to know that I noticed it and tried to do what I could to at least make it fun for the audience as much as I could without putting my own position in the game at risk.
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Mirabella Plunkett
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| Post #7: 16th Mar 2018 7:03:21 AM | |
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You had an amazing golden ticket in the Lockhart boot as your key resume piece, but you’ve seemingly done nothing else all game besides burn bridges. My two questions are why did you let Mira make the end and why did you (seemingly) do nothing else after I left?
I agree that that moment was a huge “showey” play. The only real one that I could potentially take 100% credit for. |
Unless I missed you convincing Lockhart to give up an immunity necklace and pass his idol to Maxime, I'm gonna contest that Lockhart deserves a lot of credit for this :)
And so does Maxime for getting his idol.
But I would also like to point out that I was pushing for the vote to be on pomfrey or lockhart in the actual chatlog you just posted (which came at the end of a long discussion over where I was pushing for both of them before you brought up the draco/lockhart/you chat). Lockhart had just come off of two rounds of openly campaigning to vote me out and I had every reason in the world to be working on getting that vote on him. The only reason I wasn't actively waving pitchforks against him in that group chat was because Maxime was repeatedly telling me privately that she thought Lockhart wanted to work with her long-term so I was worried she might be more reluctant to vote for Lockhart than Pomfrey. My priority was saving Fred from that vote so I was willing to settle for a pomfrey vote if necessary, but I was going after Lockhart that round.
(side note: you told me about that lockhart/draco/ron group in a side chat before you shared it in the group chat, and I'm pretty sure you actually asked me whether you should raise with maxime in the group to shake things up, to which I encouraged you. It's funny reading this back and seeing me pretending to be surprised about the group chat information in this conversation while also pretending that Maxime hadn't already told me about getting the idol from lockhart hours earlier.)
I don't think the suggestion that you cooked up the idea and carried out this plan all by yourself and should get 100% credit is valid.
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Mirabella Plunkett
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| Post #8: 16th Mar 2018 7:08:11 AM | |
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I think my game is somewhat of a missed opportunity |
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Ron Weasley
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| Post #9: 16th Mar 2018 7:12:30 AM | |
Hate to do this....but I will....
on a vote I was pretty certain would result in Angelina going home regardless.
Final 9 was a round where you ideally wanted to "make a show". You specifically wanted majority votes on yourself. I had conversations with Fred and Pomfrey about hiding the fact the votes were being split on yourself and Draco for the simple fact that Mira may get upset and not use the idol if she didn't have to. You wanted majority on yourself to act like you needed the idol to survive, in reality--the items that you were giving me--I gave to Angelina, allowing her to find out you already had the idol--leading to them splitting the vote and not just putting them all on you and/or all on Draco.
I think it's incredibly clear that there were four players in this game that were determined to liven things up, take risks, take initiative and do their best to entertain the viewers.
You, Snape, Angelina and Me.
This is barf worthy. The fact that you just discredit Pomfrey, Fred, and myself and any involvement we had in this game. The moves that we made, and the initiative that we took to make game moves. You would not be sitting where you are if it wasn’t for the three of us. We both would not be sitting here right now without Pomfrey/Fred’s information from the other side from the merge game.
To label Pomfrey or myself boring is to spit on our shoes, and therefore I am spitting right back.
You are here because of your final 5 and final 4 immunity challenge wins. Otherwise, you would be 5th placer. You were an active person in a sea of rather inactives, so a reliable vote to be used.
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Ron Weasley
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| Post #10: 16th Mar 2018 7:18:53 AM | |
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You had an amazing golden ticket in the Lockhart boot as your key resume piece, but you’ve seemingly done nothing else all game besides burn bridges. My two questions are why did you let Mira make the end and why did you (seemingly) do nothing else after I left?
I agree that that moment was a huge “showey” play. The only real one that I could potentially take 100% credit for. |
Unless I missed you convincing Lockhart to give up an immunity necklace and pass his idol to Maxime, I'm gonna contest that Lockhart deserves a lot of credit for this :)
And so does Maxime for getting his idol.
But I would also like to point out that I was pushing for the vote to be on pomfrey or lockhart in the actual chatlog you just posted (which came at the end of a long discussion over where I was pushing for both of them before you brought up the draco/lockhart/you chat). Lockhart had just come off of two rounds of openly campaigning to vote me out and I had every reason in the world to be working on getting that vote on him. The only reason I wasn't actively waving pitchforks against him in that group chat was because Maxime was repeatedly telling me privately that she thought Lockhart wanted to work with her long-term so I was worried she might be more reluctant to vote for Lockhart than Pomfrey. My priority was saving Fred from that vote so I was willing to settle for a pomfrey vote if necessary, but I was going after Lockhart that round.
(side note: you told me about that lockhart/draco/ron group in a side chat before you shared it in the group chat, and I'm pretty sure you actually asked me whether you should raise with maxime in the group to shake things up, to which I encouraged you. It's funny reading this back and seeing me pretending to be surprised about the group chat information in this conversation while also pretending that Maxime hadn't already told me about getting the idol from lockhart hours earlier.)
I don't think the suggestion that you cooked up the idea and carried out this plan all by yourself and should get 100% credit is valid.
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I don't see how Lockhart deserves credit in himself leaving the game?
Ultimately, Lockhart's plan was to have Pomfrey or Fred leave. Which would have had happened if I didn't step in with that information for the chat. You did not know about this information prior to me posting it into that chat. I am not sure why you are acting as though you did?
I never once told you about the threehonestbois chat, or anyone, until I posted it into that chat with Maxime/you.After posting this, I was talking to you on the side 1:1 about the importance of Maxime not "blasting this" because the vote would then turn on me--due to you both having idols to be played.
If you want to talk about risks. I was taking the biggest risk, about putting myself in danger as the one person without an idol out of that group of 3.
I was sick of waiting around for Pomfrey/Fred to make a move with me. I was ready to take control, and using Lockhart's chat and information to put Maxime on the spot about the hufflepuff idol she wasn't sharing, and explain the reason we needed to do Lockhart instead of the wishy washy Fred/Pomfrey/Lockhart discussion--ended the conversation, and cemented Lockhart leaving.
Therefore, I can say it was an accomplishment of mine. To save two allies, and to take out an enemy that I was trying to get out since Rita was ousted in Final 16.
Your ability to try and act like your the only one to have played a game out of this final 3 is making me heated.
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Mirabella Plunkett
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| Post #11: 16th Mar 2018 7:29:56 AM | |
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Hate to do this....but I will....
on a vote I was pretty certain would result in Angelina going home regardless.
Final 9 was a round where you ideally wanted to "make a show". You specifically wanted majority votes on yourself. I had conversations with Fred and Pomfrey about hiding the fact the votes were being split on yourself and Draco for the simple fact that Mira may get upset and not use the idol if she didn't have to. You wanted majority on yourself to act like you needed the idol to survive, in reality--the items that you were giving me--I gave to Angelina, allowing her to find out you already had the idol--leading to them splitting the vote and not just putting them all on you and/or all on Draco. |
You may very well have had those conversations, but people still told me that the vote was being split between me and draco an I still knew there wouldn't be a majority of votes on me before the deadline hit, so yes, I was pretty certain the vote would result in Angelina going home regardless.
It might have been smart of you to hide the fact that votes were being split, but you didn't do that. So I don't know why you are taking issue with this.
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I think it's incredibly clear that there were four players in this game that were determined to liven things up, take risks, take initiative and do their best to entertain the viewers.
You, Snape, Angelina and Me.
This is barf worthy. The fact that you just discredit Pomfrey, Fred, and myself and any involvement we had in this game. The moves that we made, and the initiative that we took to make game moves. You would not be sitting where you are if it wasn’t for the three of us. We both would not be sitting here right now without Pomfrey/Fred’s information from the other side from the merge game.
To label Pomfrey or myself boring is to spit on our shoes, and therefore I am spitting right back.
You are here because of your final 5 and final 6 immunity challenge wins. Otherwise, you would be 5th placer. You were an active person in a sea of rather inactives, so a reliable vote to be used.
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You, Pomfrey and Fred were smart players doing things that were strategic and in the your own best interests. I'm not intending to take away from the agency of the three of you. The question was about making the game more fun and the three of you were intentionally not trying to make big splashy waves every round with reckless and boisterous moves the way the people I listed did. Snape did a lot of things that caused drama and were fun but not smart. Lockhart giving away his immunity and getting voted out was fun but not smart.
I would have a very different answer if he was asking who made the best game moves, but that wasn't the question. Pomfrey's personality was enough to entertain everyone so maybe I should have included her here as well, but I interpreted lockhart's question to be purely in terms of people making the season fun by making a lot of moves to ensure the game didn't stay static and I think my original list is a pretty reasonable answer to that.
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Ron Weasley
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| Post #12: 16th Mar 2018 7:40:32 AM | |
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Hate to do this....but I will....
on a vote I was pretty certain would result in Angelina going home regardless.
Final 9 was a round where you ideally wanted to "make a show". You specifically wanted majority votes on yourself. I had conversations with Fred and Pomfrey about hiding the fact the votes were being split on yourself and Draco for the simple fact that Mira may get upset and not use the idol if she didn't have to. You wanted majority on yourself to act like you needed the idol to survive, in reality--the items that you were giving me--I gave to Angelina, allowing her to find out you already had the idol--leading to them splitting the vote and not just putting them all on you and/or all on Draco. |
You may very well have had those conversations, but people still told me that the vote was being split between me and draco an I still knew there wouldn't be a majority of votes on me before the deadline hit, so yes, I was pretty certain the vote would result in Angelina going home regardless.
It might have been smart of you to hide the fact that votes were being split, but you didn't do that. So I don't know why you are taking issue with this.
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I think the issue I have is the fact that in your initial statement you act like you needed to convince us in some way to vote out Angelina. Like Pomfrey/Fred/Myself weren't already wanting Angelina out. I guess it is from your perspective. I just viewed that entire situation as Pomfrey/Fred/Myself knowing Angelina had to go as well. The fact that you wanted her out was just an additive bonus to make shit easier.
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| Post #13: 16th Mar 2018 8:46:36 AM | |
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| Post #14: 16th Mar 2018 8:51:14 AM | |
@Ron Hold up, I did not lie to you about Pomfrey floating your name for that vote. So those "chat logs" were either edited or misinterpreted because your name was floated and screw Slack for deleting chat history because I can't show it. I know this is a fact because I felt very iffy about even telling you that info knowing how much you talked to everyone and how much info you spilled to me I was leary of you just running and telling her I shared that with you.
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Ron Weasley
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| Post #15: 16th Mar 2018 1:45:28 PM | |
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@Ron Hold up, I did not lie to you about Pomfrey floating your name for that vote. So those "chat logs" were either edited or misinterpreted because your name was floated and screw Slack for deleting chat history because I can't show it. I know this is a fact because I felt very iffy about even telling you that info knowing how much you talked to everyone and how much info you spilled to me I was leary of you just running and telling her I shared that with you.
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Morning!
Sorry, Not sure what this means? Pomfrey floating my name for the Lockhart vote?
I haven’t posted any other chat.....(Just part of the group chat with Maxime and Mira during the Lockhart round)
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