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Episode 9: "A Queen Among Normies"
 
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Post #61: 1st Dec 2018 2:26:19 AM 
ME OVER THE NEXT 20 HOURS, HOPING CHRIS STAYS:

 
   
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Post #62: 1st Dec 2018 2:32:12 AM 
If nothing else, just watch Jessaca's confessional and see how she lays out everything that is going on in the game to an expert degree. She knows exactly what's up and is connected to everybody. I think Jessaca has more power than anybody else in the game to dictate who gets the boot this round.

Something that I found super interesting is how she also talks a lot about how people in the jury perceive her. People underestimate her so much and a large part (not all obvs but a large part) is because she's a sweet and semi-introverted girl, and they just don't expect her to come out with such bold plays and they wind up being completely bitter towards her in the end. These are things where if a loud male made such plays, he'd get respect; and I agree to a large extent.

I don't know if I can see a more apt example of this than Anders. I'm someone who is pretty actively set in my opinions that like, the jury can never be wrong and if someone can't sway a juror it's on them... but dear god, I don't think this one can be on Jessaca.

I didn't know a juror could be as terrible as Anders is right now, and it was actually really difficult for me to bite my tongue in his Exit Interview. He straight up refuses to believe that Jessaca could possibly come up with any plan at all, and thinks that other people surely had to think of it for her and pressure her to do it. He's called her stupid and a coward, and he praised Matthew of all people for playing hard and getting out of this position. Which is insane because the reality is that Jessaca has done everything and Matthew has done nothing lol.

He also is insisting that Jessaca saying that "We didn't talk yesterday" is a personal attack on him. Which like... come on man, that's the most general and non-offensive possible reason I think you could give for voting someone out. It's kind of crazy to me the lengths of which he's jumping to believe that Jessaca did anything wrong here.

He's also come up with a plan to taint the jury so they never vote for Jessaca (or Lexi or Danny), and is going to make sure that all her moves get credited to someone else. I have zero clue how he legitimately thinks that he'll be able to convince people that Matthew & Sarena were behind his vote... when he was clearly the most out of the loop that round of anybody, or how he somehow has any insight whatsoever for what happens after F11 to be able to explain to people how Jessaca sucks when he's not even in the damn game. Like if you were the Final Juror, maybe! But you're the first and literally every other juror is going to have a more valid opinion on the game. Example of his plan below:


Anders, 4:37 PM
I’ve found a way to make what I’ve done matter
I’m going to destroy Clotho’s chances of winning this game
I will lie and say that none of the moves they made were truly their own and that they were cowards
I’m going to pass off things I did to other players
I’m going to abuse my system of knowledge to influence anyone who joins me so Jess, Danny, and Lexi will never have a chance of winning this game

Jayden, 4:39 PM
I know you're mad at Jessaca, but why Danny & Lexi?

Anders, 4:39 PM
Because they played me too. They’re complicit
The action of Jess was so insulting and personal that I shall ensure her loss
And her allies
The best revenge is making the entire game pointless with her losing, sacrificing her entire game to ruin me
At least now I have free time and she’s still balancing homework and this gamr
I am feeling better because now I know what I can do instead of sit and mope

Anders, 4:43 PM
Oh my god
What if I pin the whole Jess plan on another person like Bryce
Like he told her to do this
I take away any semblance of her “move”
 
   
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Post #63: 1st Dec 2018 2:37:43 AM 
I suddenly want ONLY Clotho to make ftc now lol
 
   
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Post #64: 1st Dec 2018 2:49:39 AM 
Can't watch her confessional right now. Who is she saying the boot will be?
 
   
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Post #65: 1st Dec 2018 2:56:55 AM 
Michael 'Vic' Vicario @ 1/12/2018 17:49
Can't watch her confessional right now. Who is she saying the boot will be?


She mentions the boot possibilities as Abby, Chris or Danny.

Obviously Danny is off the table now, but that target shifts to Lexi now; but Jessaca won't let that happen. People were also gunning for Alejandro but because of her close relationship with him, she's managed to sway people to take a shot at Chris instead it seems. She is wanting Abby out as her first priority here though.

Seems to me that it's 50-50 going to be Abby or Chris at this point. I'll update more if I get any other information. Outside chances of Alejandro or Lexi leaving.
 
   
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Post #66: 1st Dec 2018 3:12:28 AM 
IF CHRIS LEAVES WE JUMP
 
   
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Post #67: 1st Dec 2018 3:26:52 AM 
Jayden Osborne @ 1/12/2018 2:32
If nothing else, just watch Jessaca's confessional and see how she lays out everything that is going on in the game to an expert degree. She knows exactly what's up and is connected to everybody. I think Jessaca has more power than anybody else in the game to dictate who gets the boot this round.

People underestimate her so much and a large part (not all obvs but a large part) is because she's a sweet and semi-introverted girl, and they just don't expect her to come out with such bold plays and they wind up being completely bitter towards her in the end. These are things where if a loud male made such plays, he'd get respect; and I agree to a large extent.

I don't know if I can see a more apt example of this than Anders. I'm someone who is pretty actively set in my opinions that like, the jury can never be wrong and if someone can't sway a juror it's on them... but dear god, I don't think this one can be on Jessaca.

I didn't know a juror could be as terrible as Anders is right now, and it was actually really difficult for me to bite my tongue in his Exit Interview. He straight up refuses to believe that Jessaca could possibly come up with any plan at all, and thinks that other people surely had to think of it for her and pressure her to do it. He's called her stupid and a coward, and he praised Matthew of all people for playing hard and getting out of this position. Which is insane because the reality is that Jessaca has done everything and Matthew has done nothing lol.

He also is insisting that Jessaca saying that "We didn't talk yesterday" is a personal attack on him. Which like... come on man, that's the most general and non-offensive possible reason I think you could give for voting someone out. It's kind of crazy to me the lengths of which he's jumping to believe that Jessaca did anything wrong here.

He's also come up with a plan to taint the jury so they never vote for Jessaca (or Lexi or Danny), and is going to make sure that all her moves get credited to someone else. I have zero clue how he legitimately thinks that he'll be able to convince people that Matthew & Sarena were behind his vote... when he was clearly the most out of the loop that round of anybody, or how he somehow has any insight whatsoever for what happens after F11 to be able to explain to people how Jessaca sucks when he's not even in the damn game. Like if you were the Final Juror, maybe! But you're the first and literally every other juror is going to have a more valid opinion on the game. Example of his plan below:


Anders, 4:37 PM
I’ve found a way to make what I’ve done matter
I’m going to destroy Clotho’s chances of winning this game
I will lie and say that none of the moves they made were truly their own and that they were cowards
I’m going to pass off things I did to other players
I’m going to abuse my system of knowledge to influence anyone who joins me so Jess, Danny, and Lexi will never have a chance of winning this game

Jayden, 4:39 PM
I know you're mad at Jessaca, but why Danny & Lexi?

Anders, 4:39 PM
Because they played me too. They’re complicit
The action of Jess was so insulting and personal that I shall ensure her loss
And her allies
The best revenge is making the entire game pointless with her losing, sacrificing her entire game to ruin me
At least now I have free time and she’s still balancing homework and this gamr
I am feeling better because now I know what I can do instead of sit and mope

Anders, 4:43 PM
Oh my god
What if I pin the whole Jess plan on another person like Bryce
Like he told her to do this
I take away any semblance of her “move”

World's biggest eye roll
 
   
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Post #68: 1st Dec 2018 3:55:55 AM 
Daniel Kilby @ 1/12/2018 18:26

World's biggest eye roll

My thoughts exactly.

Also, update! Even though Chris doesn't know he's under direct fire, he's decided to put a plan in place:

Chris, 6:32 PM
I can’t sleep but I logged back on to tell you my idea

Chris, 6:33 PM
if Jess, Matt, and Sarena are voting abby
And Danny and Lexi are voting Alex

Can me you Alex Naomi and Abby just vote Lexi and be done with it

^me to Bryce

Chris, 6:34 PM
And I doubt Alex would want to cause a rift in his side alliances

Chris, 6:35 PM
it’s slightly possible though

Chris, 6:35 PM
So I’m gonna explore it

Chris, 6:35 PM
Hence me already texting bryce

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While he's again operating under some false assumptions -- because Abby definitely isn't with him -- I think he could solidly recruit himself, Bryce, Alejandro & Naomi to vote together which is 4 of the remaining 10.

I feel the targets right now are:

Abby: Alejandro
Alejandro: Lexi
Bryce: Lexi
Chris: Lexi
Danny: Alejandro
Jessaca: Abby
Lexi: Chris
Matthew: Alejandro
Naomi: Lexi(?)
Sarena: Abby

So Lexi (4), Alejandro (3), Abby (2), Chris (1). I know it's not a reasonable possibility but with those targets wouldn't a 4-3-2-1 vote be fun? Cirie Fields who?

Problem is that the Alejandro people will cave and go for Chris most likely, along with potentially the Abby people. Might be looking at Lexi (4) vs. Chris (6).

If Jessaca insists and pushes for an Abby boot, things could get funky though. I think Abby, Danny & Lexi will vote for Chris/Alejandro no matter what, so idk, would we see a three-way vote where it's like Lexi (4) vs. Alejandro (3) vs. Abby (3)?

Now that I'm laying it out I think Abby might have saved herself? My queen. It all depends on how Chris, Alejandro, Bryce & Naomi vote. Maybe we're looking at like, 75% Chris boot, 25% Lexi boot?

 
   
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Post #69: 1st Dec 2018 4:01:51 AM 
Anders says all of this, but he’s still in this shocked hurt and anger phase. There’s like 3 weeks till finale and he respects the game and prod a lot I think he’ll gradually come to some form of.... acceptance? Or at the very least be able to be slightly less bitter. Throughout the course of my call with him he went through a range of emotions and he stated to me that even though he hated everything at that moment he still has so much respect for endure, for survivor in general and the jury process

Like I get that some of the stuff he says is cringy but all of us are orgers too and I guarantee most of us have said things while emotionally invested. Hell I was super bitter at Lait in a game flipped out screaming and cussing and it was a monster and made people hate me but three hours later I was in the jury chat fighting for kait to win. Like I don’t think that we should judge Anders solely based on his emotions right now, if it continues and is this shitty on finale night that’s a different story

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Post #70: 1st Dec 2018 5:06:03 AM 
i'm actually a little sad we didn't see original Lachesis go to tribal in the pre-merge they're a god damn mess and that would have made some excellent excellennt tribals, but like at the same time i think we lost who we should have

except devon

rip
 
   
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Post #71: 1st Dec 2018 5:49:44 AM 
Chris leaving would be tragic

Lexi the cockroach is great tho
 
   
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Post #72: 1st Dec 2018 6:14:04 AM 
randomly lying about stuff just to spite someone is the worst thing you could possibly do as a juror. be bitter, but let the facts stand on their own.
 
   
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Post #73: 1st Dec 2018 11:05:30 AM 
Noooooooo, I don’t want Chris to leave!

I defended Anders actions overall, but if he sits in that jury like Scully did and tries to still game and hurt peoples games, it’s going to be a really bad look. I do think he will stop once the first person arrives and says ‘no that’s not what happened’ but yea Anders is being a little bitch right now. I don’t see it as sexist, just bitter, again, he seems to feel he was above getting targeted.

Jess is playing amazingly well, Jake Bell levels of winner-ness but there’s still a lot of game left to play.

Chris has been my winners pick from day 1 and I still think he was a solid choice, but Bryce, Jess and Naomi are in the mix for me as well.
 
   
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Post #74: 1st Dec 2018 11:48:44 AM 
Ashlee Smith @ 1/12/2018 4:01
Anders says all of this, but he’s still in this shocked hurt and anger phase. There’s like 3 weeks till finale and he respects the game and prod a lot I think he’ll gradually come to some form of.... acceptance? Or at the very least be able to be slightly less bitter. Throughout the course of my call with him he went through a range of emotions and he stated to me that even though he hated everything at that moment he still has so much respect for endure, for survivor in general and the jury process

Like I get that some of the stuff he says is cringy but all of us are orgers too and I guarantee most of us have said things while emotionally invested. Hell I was super bitter at Lait in a game flipped out screaming and cussing and it was a monster and made people hate me but three hours later I was in the jury chat fighting for kait to win. Like I don’t think that we should judge Anders solely based on his emotions right now, if it continues and is this shitty on finale night that’s a different story

I mean for me I'm willing to change tune when he changes tune. Assuming he gets more reasonable when its been a few days and he's still on that thought process is a lot, and I certainly at this moment am siding with Jayden's analysis.

I hope he changes course, and I'm sure some more reasonable jurors will try to get to him, but either way the "bitter for the sake of it" is the worst genre of juror by faaaaar
 
   
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Post #75: 1st Dec 2018 1:06:59 PM 
Ned S. @ 1/12/2018 6:14
randomly lying about stuff just to spite someone is the worst thing you could possibly do as a juror. be bitter, but let the facts stand on their own.


I mean he currently is just venting to prod, so it’s not actually doing anything, like I said we’ll see when other jurors get there and if anyone sets him straight
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