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Episode 5: "An Unideal World"
 
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Post #46: 20th May 2018 11:42:42 PM 
According to Joey's confessional, Jenn's cat passed away this weekend and she told the tribe they could vote her out if they lost. So I guess now it could be her? He had a point when he mentioned that it's tough to just keep someone around that is willingly asking to be voted out.

If that's the case I'd like to see her go even if Jacob is kind of annoying
 
   
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Post #47: 21st May 2018 12:08:14 AM 
THOTS AFTER EPISODE 4 BUT VERY LATE


Hi I said I'd do this like 3 nights ago but then my friend got married and I got distracted by the wedding so you're getting this now! Bc I'm so late and doing my usual thing would basically leave me with nothing to talk about next round I'll change it up a bit.

BUT FIRST: RIP BILLY :'( Billy leaving was a huge shock to me, One minute the target seemed to firmly be on Alex's back, and then one Tyler-going-out-to-dinner later and Billy's coffin was finished and everyone was getting ready to send him out the door. I'm devastated because he was awesome, and I'm just hoping he'll try his hand at another game in the future because he definitely has what it takes.

In lieu of my usual game thoughts I'm just gonna give each member of the cast a placement on this alignment chart:
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Utren Tribe

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Vecher Tribe

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Did I sorta-put thought into these? Yes. Did I also sorta pull these out of my ass? Definitely. Anyways I'll return to my normal thing next episode xoxo Gossip Ty
 
   
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Post #48: 21st May 2018 12:16:49 AM 
Also we might be looking at a Sarena boot this round, The Wildlife Conservation Coalition had a discussion about how she might be more dangerous in a merge scenario than Jacob, and Jenn's knowledge of her connections to Jay and Alex and her speculation that they are both in the game is helping fuel the fire against Sarena.

In any regards, the names that have gone around are Jayden/Jenn from Sarena and Jacob's side and Jacob/Sarena from the WCC
 
   
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Post #49: 21st May 2018 5:02:32 AM 
Noooo please not Sarena
 
   
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Post #50: 21st May 2018 7:40:03 AM 
Watching Mike's latest confessional and he actually seems pretty aware of everything that's going on and where everyone stands. He sees Dustin and Jay as the biggest threats on the tribe and rightfully so in my opinion. He talks a lot about him, Kurtis and Rob being in the minority and wanting to win out until the merge where he'd want to flip to the Utren people. However, if Jay is still planning on taking Dustin out next time they lose then that would change the mindset of those three I'd assume.

I'm glad Utren is going to TC because it evens it back up and there's way too much tension building there, but I'd like Vecher to go back soon so that we can see if Jay is going to make his move against Dustin. I'd expect another blindside there.

I see the pros in taking out Sarena for Utren this round, but I think it'd be a mistake right now. As long as Jacob is around, there's going to be so much tension between certain people and its not healthy if they're trying to be a cohesive unit once the merge does come. By taking out Jacob, they could then try pulling Sarena and Andrew in and then vote Jenn next time to show the two of them they are all together.

I think these tribes need to start thinking about a merge and having numbers for it because as of right now, neither tribe would stick together during it. They're so worried about blindsiding and turning on their tribemates that its definitely going to be a messy merge and I'm excited for it.
 
   
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Post #51: 21st May 2018 9:18:58 AM 
I'll just put this here (angel)

[16:06:19] AlexVivor: tribal really seems to make people feel a weird kind of way inside the game if they went in with someone possibly being the 100% target and then shifting gears as it's happening (cwl) curious to see what's gonna happen
[16:08:44] Daniel K: I think it’s because they can’t focus on the other tribe at all since they don’t know who they are. They have no clue when there will be a swap, if there even is one, a merge or when it will be
[16:08:56] Daniel K: So they’re playing as if they have already merged and it’s the F8/F7
[16:10:15] AlexVivor: yeah that makes a lot of sense, I mean at the end of the day there's also the additional factor of not only "what is gonna get me to move forward in the game" but for one or another person that doesn't feel quite safe it could also be "what could help me win the immunity" cause we've seen that kinda stuff get kinda crazy
[16:10:19] AlexVivor: TBT when Tony almost won Blinding Light
[16:12:34] Taylor James: With this cast playing so hard I’m not surprised things are ever changing
[16:14:00] AlexVivor: I'm gonna quote Christen from the massacre roundtable and say "some people are playing rather hard than smart"
[16:14:25] AlexVivor: It appears as though there's this BiGmOvEz movement for some people and there were situations like Adrienne voting Billy where it simply. was. not. smart. lmao
[16:16:04] AlexVivor: or when people commented on Kurtis' tunnel vision towards wanting Anders out when it was too early
 
   
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Post #52: 21st May 2018 10:12:46 AM 
I'm still kinda annoyed with Vecher's last two boots that I almost wanted to just see the implosion continue into this round. It sucks seeing ORG newbs go out early, especially when they're fun personalities.

Maybe it's just me, but I'll be surprised if Adrianne/Jay/Dustin/Alex stick together...idk, my gut just says one of those 4 will get antsy and target each other. There are some individual relationships that don't appear super strong--Adrianne and Alex, Dustin and Alex, Dustin and Jay--but it's hard to say given the confessional content has been low due to the scavenger hunt going on. I think if Dustin can reel in Adrianne's trust he could make her see that he truly doesn't have the idol...So I could see Alex or Jay getting targeted out of idol paranoia. Who knows what'll happen if Adrianne finds out Jay's been lying to her???

But perhaps those 4 in the majority (Adrianne/Jay/Dustin/Alex) could probably agree on a Mike boot at the very least. I'm speculating here. But it wouldn't surprise me if they want for a bigger target like Kurtis instead, which seems to be the name of the game rn.

Everyone seems to realize that Jay and Adrianne are the linchpins of this tribe and can dictate which way things swing--it'll be interesting to see if anyone tries to do anything to dethrone them, upset the status quo once again.
 
   
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Post #53: 21st May 2018 10:29:47 AM 
This is probably an un-popular opinion, but I do not want to see Jacob go on Utren this...mostly to keep some newbs in the game longer. Yea, it sounds like he's making some many mistakes and playing too hard, but it'll be fun to see what he does after getting blindsided or somehow making it to the merge. I feel like Jacob might just need a fresh start with the Vecher people--his approval rating on Utren is just so low.

I'm ok with Sarena going, as I don't enjoy people from the other tribe id'ing her before merge. Take a familiar face out of the equation. The caveat, of course, is that Sarena is probably the most purely entertaining in confessionals out of anyone on this tribe...But if the Jayden groups wants to remove the biggest overall threat from the Jacob/Gibby/Sarena trio, it's easily Sarena.
With Jacob/Gibby being the two on the bottom, I see no scenario where they are able to swing people over to work with them. I just don't think they'd handle getting blindsided well, and they don't see to have many good relationships with the Jayden/Kilby side.

Jayden's been super excited to attend tribal, which can often be the kiss of the death...but it seems like it'll work out for Jayden. Curious to see, though, if he can get what he wants and not get forced into what Kilby or Joey or whoever wants. He's been talking up a Jacob boot for a while, but has previously mentioned the merit of taking out Sarena.
Oh, and Jayden talking about Harrison/Joey getting blinding light for 3 straight rounds. Glad he sees this as a bit of a concern, b/c they've had the luxury of playing both sides for so long. Yet, I don't think Jayden can really do anything about it b/c he absolutely needs Harrison and Joey on his side for now.

Excited to see how things transpire rest of the day...the fallout is going to be GREAT too.
 
   
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Post #54: 21st May 2018 2:15:06 PM 
I just have to say...

I've never seen a confessional that's more off base of what's actually happening than the one Jacob just posted. Poor kid.
 
   
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Post #55: 21st May 2018 2:26:15 PM 
I kind of like Alex's strategy going into a merge situation. Very similar to the one Sean used to win S2. He's gotta make it there first and he's definitely got some hurdles to jump in getting there. I really like that he's actively thinking of ways to further himself though, because he has come off as someone who doesn't really care so its nice to see he actually really does want to do well.
 
   
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Post #56: 21st May 2018 4:00:38 PM 
Michael Vicario @ 21/5/2018 14:15
I just have to say...

I've never seen a confessional that's more off base of what's actually happening than the one Jacob just posted. Poor kid.


the craziest part is him wanting almost nothing to do with gibby and sarena...it's like he would rather work with kilby and jayden, but kilby and jayden are more against jacob than anyone else in this game.

if jacob stays, perhaps this can be a wake up call????
 
   
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Post #57: 21st May 2018 7:23:31 PM 
I’m sad to see Sarena as the target. I think she is really the life of that tribe, not necessarily in a good position but she’s entertaining, she’s likable and fun to host. Not to mention she did a lot and was hilarious to watch in the scavenger hunt.
 
   
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Post #58: 21st May 2018 8:54:42 PM 
I think Sarena is toast :(

God these last two votes though
 
   
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Post #59: 21st May 2018 9:20:09 PM 
Michael Vicario @ 21/5/2018 21:54
I think Sarena is toast :(

God these last two votes though


However, that being said, Sarena is their smartest play. Jacob and Andrew really aren't that tight and it seems as though Jayden (and potentially others) know that. If they were going to do a blindside, what a way to do it rather than take out someone like Jacob who has no one.

Its kind of shitty that part of the reason is due to assuming who some people are on the other tribe and Sarena's relationship to them but that kind of thing is unavoidable.
 
   
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Post #60: 21st May 2018 9:20:34 PM 
I forget who said it--maybe DK? maybe Tyler?--but I do think being "in the dark" this season has caused people to eliminate their biggest threats on these current tribes. I don't disagree with the gameplay at all from the Utren majority/WCC to take out Sarena, she could be very dangerous at a swap/merge...but it definitely sacrifices fun/big characters in the process.
 
   
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