Okay, I'm not really super qualified to be here, I was the third boot that lasted a while in the oasis by consistently getting second place then became a juror by the person that beat me disappearing. But sense I still have jury powers I must ask you guys questions

1. Rank everyone in the game from best to worst, include yourself, your oppontent, the jury and the pre-jury?
2. If Misty won immunity and voted you who would you vote for in the end?


EDIT: Sorry Ignore that third question if you saw it didn't realize chris asked it.
EDIT2: Yes I am aware that Nick asked a similiar question to Question #1 but mine is slightly different because I said to include everyone not just the jury, copy and paste your list but include the non jurors as well.

1. Nick
2. Bob dawg
3. misty
4. Debbie
5. Candice
6. Chris
7. Jerry
8. Shane
9. Tina
10. Jenn
11. Joanna
12. coach
13. Sandra
14. ib
15. aubry
16. Fabio
17. Bob Crowley
18. Joe

do you want explanations? if so I'll edit them in later.



2. if misty won immunity she was never going to be voting me out, but on the off chance she did I would 100% vote for her to win. she played a stellar game, much better than her would be opponent. his claim to fame here is that after rounds of trying and being defeated he finally got her out at f3, but if he was against misty in finals he wouldn't have that. I don't think anything could've happened in this game to make me be a bitter juror.

Reasonings would nice you don't need to redo them for the jury though

1. Rank everyone in the game from best to worst, include yourself, your oppontent, the jury and the pre-jury?

I'm reposting the reasons from Nick's thread for the people I've already ranked just so I can be personally satisfied with my formatting, so if you've already been through Nick's thread, I'm not adding anything for their names.

1.) Nick. If we discount that raw deal from the rock draw, I think he might have won, despite my plans to get him out. He was in well with basically everyone in the game, all the information was getting served to him like a three course meal, and he had multiple deals and alliances to fall back on, as well as challenge strength. If it didn't go to rocks that round, I seriously think he could have won.
2.) Bob Dawg. The sheer fact that he was able to turn things around from tripping at the start of the merge is impressive, but he managed to basically me an information sponge, and he was very selective about the information he revealed to people. Normally, people would be sketched out by actions like that, but he had the social charm to make you not care. I'm going to enjoy going back through his confessionals and seeing what kinds of things were going through his brain during most rounds.
3.) Misty. She was a social power house, no doubt, and calling her a challenge beast would be the understatement of the season. She was able to get much farther than she probably should have, even if immunity from the votes had a large thing to do with it. I would have ranked her higher, but she voted in the minority multiple times, despite theoretically having connections with basically everyone in the game. Had she gotten her way and voted me out at one point, she'd probably be higher on this list.
4.) Jerry. I don't think I played the best game this season, but I think I played a good game. No one expected me coming, and coming into the merge, I wasn't on anyone's radar. Did you see the majority rules challenge? I managed to have the second highest score (which proved I read the room correctly and was in the know) while also not being the majority answer a single time. I think that challenge sums up my game well; people underestimated me while I wasn't on their radar, meanwhile I knew what was going on and knew where to direct my vote. Sure, I may not have reached out socially like I should have, but in the premerge, I had issues in real life and I was on the winning tribe, so I didn't dedicate my time there. In the merge, I was almost always around (even if my response time wasn't always fantastic). I think, if this season repeated itself over and over, I would consistently go far.
5.) Shane. He managed to get an idol and play it correctly when his neck was on the line, and he was the majority for the most part. The only thing is, once the majority inevitably started caving in on itself, he didn't have a whole lot of really strong connections to carry him through, so most people probably didn't think that keeping him benefited their games. If he had changed that, I think he would have been a much bigger threat than he was.
6.) Debbie. She was able to turn things around after voting wrong at the start of the merge, eventually working her way into the majority. She wasn't on anyone's radar until it was too late. Her big moves though? I think fate played too big a part in how they played out instead of her skill as a player. That F6 move? Ballsy as fuck, and it SOMEHOW payed off, but in the process, she burned a jury vote, had a 66% chance that it would have back fired, and it almost took her out of the game. The move to tie it at F4? There was a LOT riding on fate that round. If Jenn wins the tiebreaker, then Debbie goes home next, no doubt (and I was considering keeping her after Jenn talked about wanting to be voted out). If Misty wins the tiebreaker, then she burns a jury vote regardless. Considering how good Misty is at challenges, it's very likely that Misty could win the FIC, and there's no doubt that she takes me out and takes Debbie to the end and sweeps the jury, along with burning my potential vote for Debbie on the way out. Debbie acknowledged that I was better at challenges than her, so she basically was relying on me to win that FIC in order to win. There were too many variables with her #b1GM0v3Z for me to fully respect them. Otherwise, she was playing a pretty fucking solid UTR game up until that point.
7.) Candice. I mean, my experience with her was a strange one (thanks for that, Misty -__-), so subjectively, I would probably put her a lot lower. However, she managed to almost turn around after voting in the minority, and she did have a certain charm to her that was appealing. When I started throwing her name out and she got wind of it though, she confronted me with a BS plan and then after I said I wasn't on board, she told me to vote for her and that she wanted me gone. That's an odd way to react to a rumor that your name is being thrown around, if you ask me :P
8.) Jenn. She wedged herself into the majority alliance and managed to ride it out for longer than most people probably expected, but her social game (outside of her allies) wasn't ideal. Not to mention you had to either a night owl or a European to be online when she was. She played a loyal game and won a few challenges, along with staying off of a lot of people's radar, intentionally or not.
9.) Chris. He divulged too much information straight from the start of the merge to people he shouldn't have trusted so easily (me). He clearly had some decent strategy if he was almost able to control the outcome of that first vote at the merge, but he wasn't able to successfully read the room and figure out which people he could trust with what pieces of information.
10.) Tina. She socially isolated herself from her old allies after Nick switched tribes (even though her and Shane were fine anyways) and jumped ship onto the Titanic. We all know how that went... ( I'm actually going to break my own rule and add a bit more to this since I didn't say much) Otherwise, she was able to survive being down in numbers on a new tribe in the premerge, so she had to be doing something right in order to slip through those cracks.
11.) Ib. In the pregame, he was very charming, and I was a bit disappointed that we didn't land on the same tribe. Going into the merge, I think he would have been in a solid spot, but he unfortunately dropped off the face of the fucking earth. He managed to be well connected to get through all those tribals in the premerge though.
12.) Joanna. Now personally, I have no idea what the tribe dynamics were on that tribe. No clue. But, Joanna clearly put forth a lot of effort in the challenges early on while she was on a tribe that ended up having a bit of a losing streak. She either got unlucky going against a strong, unwavering alliance, or she didn't make it clear how her tribe needed her. Good gameplay usually requires a little luck, so that's why I put her down so low.
13.) Coach. I never talked much with Coach and I wasn't on his tribe, so I have no idea what his game was like. With the info that I have available though, it seems like most people who made the merge thought he should still be here out of all the premergers, and he managed to survive for a decent amount of ingame time.
14.) Sandra. She was afraid that not being around at the start would put her on the bottom, but despite that, she was able to survive longer than she thought when I first talked with her. She still didn't survive very long though, which is why she's this low.
15.) Aubry. She got taken out first, but she managed to win her way back into the game. After that, she put on an invisibility cloak and wandered out of a window of Hogwarts and took the return from someone who would have actually added to the game. Regardless, she did manage to get back in the game, which deserves some props.
16.) Bob. It sounds like he wasn't around all that much, and he got taken out pretty quickly. Don't really know what to say about him, I didn't talk with him and I wasn't on his tribe.
17.) Fabio. His social game wasn't very good (he was very difficult talking to considering his brief responses), and he disappeared super quickly. Regardless, he did stay longer than Joe.
18.) Joe. I literally didn't speak to him once (I never reached out to him, but he never reached out to me either), and the consensus was on him pretty quickly with no contest. Not only that, but he didn't distribute his coins at all, which caused him to get booted from the game uncontested against Aubry.

2. If Misty won immunity and voted you who would you vote for in the end?

I would have probably voted for Misty. Between the two people, I think that it took Misty more skill to get farther, and she had a better social game. I personally don't value physical game that much though, and it seemed to me that Misty relied very heavily on her physical game to get as far as she did. However, she did manage to convince Debbie to keep the biggest threat left in the game, rather than vote her out like the rest of us. I would have been salty about Debbie keeping her no doubt and causing me to get voted out, and there's not a doubt in my mind that I would have been incredibly pissed that Debbie handed the win to Misty and burned three jury votes in the last 4 rounds. I would have perceived that as poor social gameplay (especially after saying she wanted me, herself, and Jenn in the final three) and most likely chewed her out for it, knowing how I can be as a juror.

I'll explain my reasonings later tonight when I have more time but right now I have to respond to Jerry. I am tired of you and nick saying I had a 66% chance of it backfiring on me. there was a 33% chance of it backfiring. if Jenn had gone home there it would not have backfired. Jenn was not aligned with me. that would not be a loss. and at f5 I would still have misty and Bob dawg in my corner so there would've been nothing you and nick could've done to get back at me without Jenn's idol. so get the numbers right next time you try and frame that risk as a bad decision for me.

secondly, Jenn was never gonna win that tiebreaker. misty practiced all day. Jenn had thought about asking to be voted out that same round. no competition there.

I was not banking on you to win FIC. live challenges are my strong suit, so I was very confident in my chances at winning - the problem came with the puzzle aspect of the challenge, which is my absolute weakest suit. if it had been almost any other kind of live challenge I would've excelled.

thanks for complimenting my solid UTR game up until f6 though!! :)

It still wasn't an intelligent move. The best outcome you could have hoped for was with Nick drawing the rock. If Jenn draws it, sure you still have Misty and Bobby, but your options of getting to the end with someone you can beat become nonexistent if it's a F3, and much more difficult if it's a F2. Misty, Nick, and Bobby all beat us, dude. If Jenn goes and there's a F3, guess what? You lose, I lose, and most likely, Bob or Misty win. Obviously, your game was over if you drew the rock. So yes, I think there was a 66% chance of it not working out for you in the end. I stand by mine* (not mone the fuck does that even mean) and Nick's statement.

As for the tiebreaker? Shit happens, people make mistakes. That's what we saw with Jenn accidentally screwing up her posting order. Internet and power goes out randomly. Computers unexpectedly start updates. The phone rings. Saying that Misty 100% had it in the bag is naive. That's like saying the biggest threat will go home at F4.

As for the FIC thing? Yeah, I didn't know you were good at live challenges. But, to be fair, we didn't know what the challenge was. You can be confident all you want, but bottom line, we didn't know what the challenge actually was, and it could have been something that you suck at.

You're welcome for complimenting your game tho

anyways!


4. Debbie - Queen of everything. but actually I do think I played the best game outside of the big three. I was with each of them for
majority of the game, kept sheltered by them while included in all of their plans. I stayed out of the threat zone when I needed to be and opened fire when it was the optimal time to do so. I made the endgame my own and no one really had any way of stopping me despite what they'll say.
7. Jerry - an okay player who didn't SEEM to be doing much all game beyond hiding behind nick. had a fun rivalry with misty and got to take her out at the end which was big for him. late game immunity runs can't be overlooked either.
12. coach - people found him to be a lot bigger of a player than he was, but I don't think he really did much wrong. he was helpful in challenges, social, and not a negative presence which would've fared well for him in merge.
13. Sandra - active and talkative, social and strategic, she could've really proved to be a late game threat. I still find it funny that she chose to be Sandra so that she could take a back seat approach for once when she said she's usually a pushy player who tries to make moves and rubs people the wrong way... when that's exactly what she did in order to paint herself a target. smh lol
14. ib - was in a terrific spot premerge and especially round one but slowly faded into nothingness. it's a trend with the prejurors.
15. aubry - first boot from Ifbith bc she wasn't active. for some reason came back and won her way back into the game... then went inactive again. it's a mystery why she wasted her time doing the oasis challenges if she didn't actually wanna play.
16. Fabio - was cool at the beginning and someone I thought of working with but went inactive. still better than Bob Crowley.
17. Bob Crowley - he made it as far as he did bc he never talked or mattered, whereas Sandra coach and Joanna at least tried to play.
18. Joe - self explanatory. wasn't around, waste of space.