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Post #76: 17th May 2013 2:51:42 AM 
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Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:23
Mark @ 17/5/2013 13:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


He's agreeing with me? I actually don't mind if items are revealed in the smaller groups. Narrow down the shooter and all. But secrecy breeds distrust.


Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:25
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:23
Mark @ 17/5/2013 13:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


He's agreeing with me? I actually don't mind if items are revealed in the smaller groups. Narrow down the shooter and all. But secrecy breeds distrust.


No shit he's agreeing with you, you're preaching an argument that puts us apart as a group dipshit.


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:26
How did this even start? Was it because Kristoff was upset about keeping secrets? Really?




Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:26
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


Yay, known scum card again! HOW FUCKING ORIGINAL!

And no, I just want to kill you Mark, nobody else.

I win if:

Mark is killed.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:26
Boone @ 16/5/2013 21:23
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:21
Boone @ 17/5/2013 13:16
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:12
It depends on good hands. Your group seems convinced the scum hunter is 100% right ad thus you feel entitled to hold the best items in the game. As Maria very easily pointed out, it's quite easy to get away with it.


i dont sEE how the scum hunters scans have anYthing to do with item distribution.
no one has been given an important item because of a scan. its because they are trustworthy in other ways.
i would not give the general all of the important items right now. just because he was partly cleared last phase

your group holds far more items than ours. wE only hold items that we found or earned.


I don't know how my group found items aside from finding or earning them...?


*slaps forehead*
just forget it

It's always like that with him.


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:26
Sorry for this silliness Eleanor.


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:27
You guys must be having a laugh if you think scumhunter clearing has meant nothing. We have heard an annoyingly amount of times how you have been cleared or the scum "definitely" came from our group as you are all cleared. So Boone, I can agree with it as my group has not had this mentality.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:27
Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:26
How did this even start? Was it because Kristoff was upset about keeping secrets? Really?

He doesn't like secrets he doesn't know about. :P


Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:27
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:26
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


Yay, known scum card again! HOW FUCKING ORIGINAL!

And no, I just want to kill you Mark, nobody else.

I win if:

Mark is killed.


Kill me then, because I really can't stand this idiocy.


Zorrurk @ 16/5/2013 21:27
#Follow: Boone


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 20:27
You guys must be having a laugh if you think scumhunter clearing has meant nothing. We have heard an annoyingly amount of times how you have been cleared or the scum "definitely" came from our group as you are all cleared. So Boone, I can agree with it as my group has not had this mentality.


I'll laugh so hard if at the end of all this the person who killed Angela was from their group.


Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:25
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:23
Mark @ 17/5/2013 13:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


He's agreeing with me? I actually don't mind if items are revealed in the smaller groups. Narrow down the shooter and all. But secrecy breeds distrust.


No shit he's agreeing with you, you're preaching an argument that puts us apart as a group dipshit.


It's true. When the known scum likes all your posts it might be a hint to step back a bit and re-approach the situation.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:27
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:26
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


Yay, known scum card again! HOW FUCKING ORIGINAL!

And no, I just want to kill you Mark, nobody else.

I win if:

Mark is killed.


Kill me then, because I really can't stand this idiocy.


Just waiting to stumble upon a weapon, don't have to worry about that :)


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Walton @ 17/5/2013 13:26
How did this even start? Was it because Kristoff was upset about keeping secrets? Really?




No it's because we had a 50 page argument because the explosive was not revealed. Now Helm and Maria have, once again, changed their opinion of the matter.


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:27
You guys must be having a laugh if you think scumhunter clearing has meant nothing. We have heard an annoyingly amount of times how you have been cleared or the scum "definitely" came from our group as you are all cleared. So Boone, I can agree with it as my group has not had this mentality.


We're cleared because of actions, not because of scum hunter. What don't you understand?

8 of us were the ones who had a lynch train on three known scum. That's just one of many different examples of how we are all trustworthy of one another.

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Post #77: 17th May 2013 2:55:16 AM 
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Zorrurk @ 16/5/2013 21:29
(Guys you are painting targets on your faces)


Zorrurk @ 16/5/2013 21:30
(This is the perfect scum opportunity to kill)


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:30
Helm, piss off. How about y'all just lynch me now then, I'm kind of getting sick and tired of hearing "why are we listening to known scum", so fucking kill me already then, I'm done. I thought I'd take a bullet for you all and set off a trap, prevent an unnecessary death but this shit is getting old. I mean it. KILL ME NOW.


Dennis @ 16/5/2013 21:30
Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:21
I'm sorry Tyrese, I enjoy bickering for fun with you

But seriously why are we giving his word any sort of merit? Kristoff, seriously, you're agreeing with him when he's a known scum. Clearly he wants to spread discord, he's trying to kill us all! Stop taking his damn side!


So much truth.


Boone @ 16/5/2013 21:31
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:27
You guys must be having a laugh if you think scumhunter clearing has meant nothing. We have heard an annoyingly amount of times how you have been cleared or the scum "definitely" came from our group as you are all cleared. So Boone, I can agree with it as my group has not had this mentality.


my goOdness.
this will be the last time i address this :goodtimes:

no one. ever.
not once. has said that the shooter came from your group because ours is cleared. no one believes that. at all. because not all of us were checked. including myself.

there were manY reasons why my group. and your group. assumed the shooter came from your group. i do not know whY you are hung up on our scum hunter.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:31
##Lycnh: Tyrese


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:31
fail

##Lynch: Tyrese


Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:31
Fine, as soon as the phase change hits, I am once again putting on a lynch vote for Tyrese.


Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 21:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:32
Btw Dennis, can you reveal the leverage you were holding over our group? I meant to ask this a while ago but you haven't been around much


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:32
or maybe this will work:

##Commit: Suicide


Stonehard Lee @ 16/5/2013 21:32
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:12
y'all just wanna keep the man away from his staff.

He did a great job protecting it last time.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:32
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Fine, as soon as the phase change hits, I am once again putting on a lynch vote for Tyrese.


Just get all your followers and do it now.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:33
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Walton @ 17/5/2013 13:26
How did this even start? Was it because Kristoff was upset about keeping secrets? Really?




No it's because we had a 50 page argument because the explosive was not revealed. Now Helm and Maria have, once again, changed their opinion of the matter.

Which way did mine change? My opinion's on a spectrum.


Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 21:33
Everybody just calm down!

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but he is brave five minutes longer.

   
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Post #78: 17th May 2013 2:57:32 AM 
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Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:33
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:32
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Fine, as soon as the phase change hits, I am once again putting on a lynch vote for Tyrese.


Just get all your followers and do it now.


Yeh my clear group of followers.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


I'm sorry Brie, I wanted to walk first for people like you, Boone or Maria, but I am done. Wasting my fucking time, only to be told repeatedly I don't matter or what I say matters because I am known "scum". Funny thing is, those same idiots are probably listening to, and passing important items to a scum.


Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:28
Walton @ 17/5/2013 13:26
How did this even start? Was it because Kristoff was upset about keeping secrets? Really?




No it's because we had a 50 page argument because the explosive was not revealed. Now Helm and Maria have, once again, changed their opinion of the matter.


Things are different now than they were then.

For all we knew you were negotiating with a hidden thief who knocked everyone out and in the same breath were telling me I was not-trustworthy.

So there was some heat there I will admit.

But now you are the one in the dark and it seems to really be bothering you which I find pretty amusing.

If anything you've changed your opinion on the matter.

I mean sure they didn't bend the rules to gain trust but who am I to sling poo at their alliance and demand information?


Zorrurk @ 16/5/2013 21:35
(The Church of Mark)


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:36
Again, so so sorry Eleanor.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:36
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


I'm sorry Brie, I wanted to walk first for people like you, Boone or Maria, but I am done. Wasting my fucking time, only to be told repeatedly I don't matter or what I say matters because I am known "scum". Funny thing is, those same idiots are probably listening to, and passing important items to a scum.

Don't let the haters get you down!


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:36
Message for Lee's group. The codename GREEN was for Dern/Helm.


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:36
To Maria and Helm: Why is the explosive remaining secret so bad but the staff remaining secret is good?


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:36
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:33
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:32
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Fine, as soon as the phase change hits, I am once again putting on a lynch vote for Tyrese.


Just get all your followers and do it now.


Yeh my clear group of followers.


referring to your twitter followers.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:37
Maria @ 16/5/2013 20:36
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


I'm sorry Brie, I wanted to walk first for people like you, Boone or Maria, but I am done. Wasting my fucking time, only to be told repeatedly I don't matter or what I say matters because I am known "scum". Funny thing is, those same idiots are probably listening to, and passing important items to a scum.

Don't let the haters get you down!


I wish I could but I've reached my limit unfortunately.


Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:37
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:36
To Maria and Helm: Why is the explosive remaining secret so bad but the staff remaining secret is good?



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Boone @ 16/5/2013 21:38
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


I'm sorry Brie, I wanted to walk first for people like you, Boone or Maria, but I am done. Wasting my fucking time, only to be told repeatedly I don't matter or what I say matters because I am known "scum". Funny thing is, those same idiots are probably listening to, and passing important items to a scum.


the groups will split sooOOOn. and you'll be with me. maria. and brie. wE all appreciate that you're willing to sacrifice for us i am sure. at least i do


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:38
(Paul is gonna be annoyed but it was pretty clear who I was talking to was good)


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:39
Boone @ 16/5/2013 20:38
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


I'm sorry Brie, I wanted to walk first for people like you, Boone or Maria, but I am done. Wasting my fucking time, only to be told repeatedly I don't matter or what I say matters because I am known "scum". Funny thing is, those same idiots are probably listening to, and passing important items to a scum.


the groups will split sooOOOn. and you'll be with me. maria. and brie. wE all appreciate that you're willing to sacrifice for us i am sure. at least i do


That time can't come any faster.


Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 21:40
Do you really want us to lynch you next phase, Tyrese? :/

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Post #79: 17th May 2013 2:59:46 AM 
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Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:41
Actually idc. I just want my staff back. Knowing I am so close is frustrating as you can understand. And being constantly mocked for not having it does not help. And sorry Maria for dragging you in this... You normally post positive thoughts about my staff :)


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:42
I knew it was because you want the staff.


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:43
You guys are just dicks about it. I will publicly hold it and bear the risks.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:45
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:40
Do you really want us to lynch you next phase, Tyrese? :/


Yep. I can't stand being around people like Mark and Dennis, and the asswipes that keep repeating that I'm scum so why are people even listening to me. I didn't ASK to be scum, but it is what it is now. I don't need to be constantly badgered and reminded about it, and then to tell me listening to/talking to me isn't good because of that, it's gotten me to my breaking point. I just hope it's one of the dicks that walk into a trap and die and not you or someone else that I want to see succeed.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:45
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:36
To Maria and Helm: Why is the explosive remaining secret so bad but the staff remaining secret is good?

For me, the situations are different.

As Helm said, with the explosive "For all we knew you were negotiating with a hidden thief who knocked everyone out" and that explosive is an explosive that can be detonated from anywhere and the target person doesn't even know if it's on them. We didn't know if the person would put it on someone and blow them up. It was really unnerving for me when everyone started fighting about it.

With the staff, we know what the staff does. Stonegroup is comfortable with who has it right now and I'm pretty sure no one is going to teleport away with the staff again. That would be stupid and we can chase after them. I don't mind not knowing who in Stonegroup has it right now because we have more options.

If you were reunited with the staff, that would be fine too. I know how much you want it back. I can sympathize with that. However, this argument about it is not exactly the same as the argument about the mystery holder, so my opinion on it is different.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:45
Boone @ 16/5/2013 21:38
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:34
Brie Silverstone @ 16/5/2013 20:31
Hey, Tyrese, let's just take a breather alright?


I'm sorry Brie, I wanted to walk first for people like you, Boone or Maria, but I am done. Wasting my fucking time, only to be told repeatedly I don't matter or what I say matters because I am known "scum". Funny thing is, those same idiots are probably listening to, and passing important items to a scum.


the groups will split sooOOOn. and you'll be with me. maria. and brie. wE all appreciate that you're willing to sacrifice for us i am sure. at least i do

I do too!


Boone @ 16/5/2013 21:46
at this point. your desire to hold it so badly almost makes me feEEel uneasy. as if you will teleport away with it. or as if you need it. for some reason.

sorrY. i felt i had to say that


Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:46
Kristoff I understand you wanting the staff.

For the longest time I wanted to explode Carl and get it right back to you.

Sorry if I'm giving you and tyrese a hard time but I am all for getting everyone to get along and work cohesively.

This requires a delicate touch and time.


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:48
Boone, I'm glad you said it. I was thinking the same thing.

Kristoff, your want for the staff is what makes us make jokes about it.


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:48
Tie me up and place an explosive on me if it means I get to hold the precious.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:49
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:41
Actually idc. I just want my staff back. Knowing I am so close is frustrating as you can understand. And being constantly mocked for not having it does not help. And sorry Maria for dragging you in this... You normally post positive thoughts about my staff :)

It's totally okay to be frustrated, but next time, don't drag the fight out like that and get everyone hostile. We don't need more hostility, and people might not want to deal with you if you're constantly a jerk.


Zorrurk @ 16/5/2013 21:49
(The staff to rule them all)


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:50
Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:49
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:41
Actually idc. I just want my staff back. Knowing I am so close is frustrating as you can understand. And being constantly mocked for not having it does not help. And sorry Maria for dragging you in this... You normally post positive thoughts about my staff :)

It's totally okay to be frustrated, but next time, don't drag the fight out like that and get everyone hostile. We don't need more hostility, and people might not want to deal with you if you're constantly a jerk.



Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:50
Maybe Urk can change into my staff :(


Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:50
Boone @ 16/5/2013 21:46
at this point. your desire to hold it so badly almost makes me feEEel uneasy. as if you will teleport away with it. or as if you need it. for some reason.

sorrY. i felt i had to say that


See I was too eager for the explosive at one point and honestly it didn't work out for me.

I lost all my items in the process of trying to get it.

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Post #80: 17th May 2013 3:04:30 AM 
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Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:51
Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:50
Maybe Urk can change into my staff :(


and you can hold him.


Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:52
So how is everyone tonight?


Kristoff the Grey @ 16/5/2013 21:53
##follow: Urk


Walton @ 16/5/2013 21:54
Sorry to be annoying about this, but can I get the walkie talkies when you guys are done with them? I want to make sure the person I passed the Sword to still has it and then let someone else know who has it.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:54
I don't fully remember why Stonegroup doesn't trust you to hold it, but you tend to get very confrontational when things don't go your way (and we have pointed this out before).

Maybe if you're really nice and stop that and show them that you have changed, you'll get the staff back. :)


Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:54
My mentality is if everyone only backs up people on their side we'll never get anywhere.

We have to be willing to reach across the aisle and support the others and hope that giving the other half's argument a fresh angle from a familiar face might sway them to at least compromise.

I'm hoping this will work both ways.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:55
Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:52
So how is everyone tonight?

Emotionally, I'm feeling really good! :) I'm excited at our progress.


Maria @ 16/5/2013 21:56
Helm @ 16/5/2013 21:54
My mentality is if everyone only backs up people on their side we'll never get anywhere.

We have to be willing to reach across the aisle and support the others and hope that giving the other half's argument a fresh angle from a familiar face might sway them to at least compromise.

I'm hoping this will work both ways.

I agree.


Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 21:56
Mark @ 16/5/2013 20:52
So how is everyone tonight?




Helm:
Mark @ 16/5/2013 21:52
So how is everyone tonight?


Feeling pretty green.
A hero is no braver than an ordinary man,
but he is brave five minutes longer.

   
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