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Post #16: 15th May 2013 4:46:07 PM 
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Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 8:36
I'm fine with him revealing publicly, he just seemed to want to do it privately.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 8:36
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:34
There is no such thing as confirmed town. We tried to do that and got in trouble.

Yup. You two are the reason that one win condition was made public.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:39
Walton Cotton @ 16/5/2013 0:35
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:34
There is no such thing as confirmed town. We tried to do that and got in trouble.


We have most of us confirmed in our group thanks to the scum hunter.


Yeah but there is ways around it if what Urk said was true. We tried to confirm it a different way and got in trouble (re: the rule change regarding win conditions). I very much doubt the host would put in a fool-proof role that can 100% confirm town. If it was just a matter of your scum hunter (as I understand it, he scans statements provided no duress. Not sure if thats exactly it) scanning people, I think we would have been allowed. And if I am right in that's what it is, that's kinda easy to get around IMO.

But idk, you guys act like it is foolproof and 100% while I do not know its exact nature so I could easily be wrong.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 8:41
I guess it isn't really 100% but it helps me really really trust the people that were in my group.

Plus, most of us role revealed to each other so that helps as well, I suppose.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:42
Walton who were the people that got checked? It was you or Mark that posted that list I believe....


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:43
Maria @ 16/5/2013 0:36
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:34
There is no such thing as confirmed town. We tried to do that and got in trouble.

Yup. You two are the reason that one win condition was made public.


That seemed a tad snarky...


Maria @ 15/5/2013 8:46
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:43
Maria @ 16/5/2013 0:36
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:34
There is no such thing as confirmed town. We tried to do that and got in trouble.

Yup. You two are the reason that one win condition was made public.


That seemed a tad snarky...

It was. :p


Helm @ 15/5/2013 8:48
Not that many people opened boxes.

And a lot are either dead or not with us anymore.

I did note that Ajax opened more than one box.

I'm curious who on the other team looted him.

Actually I hope they didn't loot him if he still had that coin on him.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:48
(I personally feel that it should have been revealed at the start/given to bad players at the start if that was not allowed. If it wasn't for the walkies, the issue probably would never have arisen in the first place. But best we don't talk about it...)


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:49
Helm @ 16/5/2013 0:48
Not that many people opened boxes.

And a lot are either dead or not with us anymore.

I did note that Ajax opened more than one box.

I'm curious who on the other team looted him.

Actually I hope they didn't loot him if he still had that coin on him.


I was just wondering that. I think Ajax would have told us if he had a silenced weapon but the coin.....


Helm @ 15/5/2013 8:51
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:49
Helm @ 16/5/2013 0:48
Not that many people opened boxes.

And a lot are either dead or not with us anymore.

I did note that Ajax opened more than one box.

I'm curious who on the other team looted him.

Actually I hope they didn't loot him if he still had that coin on him.


I was just wondering that. I think Ajax would have told us if he had a silenced weapon but the coin.....


I would understand if he kept it a secret but I wouldn't understand him running off to his death with it still on hand.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 9:05
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:48
(I personally feel that it should have been revealed at the start/given to bad players at the start if that was not allowed. If it wasn't for the walkies, the issue probably would never have arisen in the first place. But best we don't talk about it...)

(I think it was unexpected by the hosts, but yes, we'll stop.)


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 9:10
I wonder if anyone other than Ajax had gone to that room first if the spirit would have been there/what would have happened.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 9:11
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 8:42
Walton who were the people that got checked? It was you or Mark that posted that list I believe....


I did not post the list. It must've been Mark.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 9:17
Actually it must've been Jackles.

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Post #17: 15th May 2013 4:49:38 PM 
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Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 9:18
I just have my old group code names on the spot because it seems that's the cool thing to do.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 9:19
Gave not have*


Helm @ 15/5/2013 9:30
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 9:10
I wonder if anyone other than Ajax had gone to that room first if the spirit would have been there/what would have happened.


Who is to say?

I'm really curious if Ajax could fill us in on that.

Maybe have Rita be one of the ones to head that way just to satiate our curiosity.


Eleanor @ 15/5/2013 9:41
Well, that was a waste of time.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 9:44
Eleanor @ 15/5/2013 9:41
Well, that was a waste of time.

What was?


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 9:48
Maria @ 15/5/2013 13:44
Eleanor @ 15/5/2013 9:41
Well, that was a waste of time.

What was?


(The topic, it's like watching a long slow shitty anime where nothing gets resolved... oh wait)


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 10:06
Not much to do this phase.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 10:25
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 10:06
Not much to do this phase.


I agree this has been a previously visited room.

So getting to know each other is just as good really.

If the option of just remaining silent is being proposed I completely disagree.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 10:30
Tell me about yourself, Helm.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 10:35
*wakes up*

Why am I Brie?


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 10:37
FUCK FUCKING FUCKSHITS!


Marek @ 15/5/2013 10:46
Yeah, i don't get what's going on with the names....

Who got the gun in our group from arimnestos?


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 10:49
Marek @ 15/5/2013 9:46
Yeah, i don't get what's going on with the names....

Who got the gun in our group from arimnestos?

I believe Lee said he had it, but I think he passed it to someone else after the Angela incident.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 10:50
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 10:30
Tell me about yourself, Helm.


Well I was born 22 years ago.

Me and Dern were twins but he was born first.

I was raised to be lady-like but I always rebelled against that a bit.

When my father gave my brother a sword and me a doll I questioned why I did not receive a weapon.

I suppose my father was protective of me but eventually conceded and gave me a dagger, which I have had ever since...

well I lost it recently but you all saw that.

My mother died when I was very young.

About 6 I'd say.

And my father died when I was around 13.

My brother took his place saying he was my protector.

But unlike my father he taught me everything he knew, how to hunt, how to fish...

how to fight with a sword.

He found the love of his life in a girl named Ayeo, and they also had twins.

Nain and Kiro.

I loved them both very much as if they were my own as I had no children and saw no prospects in a husband...

and without a father I was not forced into a marriage even though I was long past the age girls were traditionally married (about 15)

When Dern would go away to do work for the king I would look over the family,

providing for them with wild game and general protection.

He would be gone sometimes for months at a time but we always had hope he would return.

He was a strong man.

Well...

one day when he was back from his work he was sharpening my skills with a sword.

We were dueling out in the courtyard.

It was going well but I...

I didn't mean to but either he faltered or I was too into the whole duel...

he was slain by his own sword.

I tried to stop the bleeding but he was soon dead.

Ayeo found us like that...

me covered in Dern's blood.

The look of horror on her face.

...

She said she forgave me when I explained later but I'll never forget her face then.

I went off to provide for her and the kids.

At first it was only as myself but I was quickly ambushed by people from another country.

People with strange armor.

Their faces were completely covered.

All I head protecting my identity was a shawl wrapped around my face.

I was quickly subdued by the enemies but when one saw that I was a woman his whole personality changed.

He said to the others to stop but they did not want to...

they had vile intent.

This man slayed some of his own comrades to save me and was mortally wounded himself.

I was now indebted to two men.

I did not even know the name of this man from afar but I looked to honor him somehow.

I took his armour and claimed it as my own to hide my face.

For my own protection and for the protection of those foolish enough to throw their lives away for me.

When I removed the helmet it wasn't just because I had failed Dern, I had also failed the mystery man.

Sometimes I feel the incredible weight of all the promises I've made and failed to keep.

i hope to uphold these promises here though.

To defeat willis and set everything right.

...

forgive me if I have spoken a bit too much I kind of needed to get a lot of that out as I have not mentioned the origins of my armor before.


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 10:51
(Did anyone in our group looted from Ajax? I didn't, I didn't think that he would have items since the other group was around.)

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Post #18: 15th May 2013 5:03:49 PM 
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Sophia @ 15/5/2013 10:51
Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 10:49
Marek @ 15/5/2013 9:46
Yeah, i don't get what's going on with the names....

Who got the gun in our group from arimnestos?

I believe Lee said he had it, but I think he passed it to someone else after the Angela incident.


Fucking Lee said he Fucking passed it to someone fucking trusted. Our fucking group did the same fucking thing when the fucking gloves fucking went missing.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 10:54
Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 10:51
(Did anyone in our group looted from Ajax? I didn't, I didn't think that he would have items since the other group was around.)


I really hope not.

That coin he was holding was bad news.

I'm sure whoever holds it only has so long before they are killed.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:05
Helm @ 15/5/2013 10:54
Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 10:51
(Did anyone in our group looted from Ajax? I didn't, I didn't think that he would have items since the other group was around.)


I really hope not.

That coin he was holding was bad news.

I'm sure whoever holds it only has so long before they are killed.


I don't think it would still be considered an *item* that could have been taken.

Let me snag the flavor again and I'll describe it so you can judge if you agree.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:06
Sophia @ 15/5/2013 10:51
Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 10:49
Marek @ 15/5/2013 9:46
Yeah, i don't get what's going on with the names....

Who got the gun in our group from arimnestos?

I believe Lee said he had it, but I think he passed it to someone else after the Angela incident.


Fucking Lee said he Fucking passed it to someone fucking trusted. Our fucking group did the same fucking thing when the fucking gloves fucking went missing.


lol'd


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:08
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:05
Helm @ 15/5/2013 10:54
Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 10:51
(Did anyone in our group looted from Ajax? I didn't, I didn't think that he would have items since the other group was around.)


I really hope not.

That coin he was holding was bad news.

I'm sure whoever holds it only has so long before they are killed.


I don't think it would still be considered an *item* that could have been taken.

Let me snag the flavor again and I'll describe it so you can judge if you agree.


I suppose not.

I think I was being influenced by what Tyrese said about it claiming another victim.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:14
Ok, the Ajax death:

It says he takes the coin from his pack.

It says he flipped it in the air and it landed in the cold hand of the entity.

The coin disappeared at that moment, into darkness.

It says the creature drifted into him and kissed him.

Then it describes the form vanishing into a cloud of darkness that entirely covered Ajax.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:17
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:14
Ok, the Ajax death:

It says he takes the coin from his pack.

It says he flipped it in the air and it landed in the cold hand of the entity.

The coin disappeared at that moment, into darkness.

It says the creature drifted into him and kissed him.

Then it describes the form vanishing into a cloud of darkness that entirely covered Ajax.


Oh yeah well I'd say it was gone then.

Fitting that it was a coin flip.

I would suggest if someone goes back that way to talk to him or loot him just in case.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:25
How many of the chests were really empty? Did we ever go back and figure that out?


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:28
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:25
How many of the chests were really empty? Did we ever go back and figure that out?


We did have a list of what everyone said they had got from them.

I didn't copy it down though.

And a lot of the ones I remember as being empty were opened by people who aren't here anymore.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:35
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 8:00
Aquamarine - Queen Genevieve
Black - Dennis
Brown - Katy
Cream - Brittany
Dark Green - Ajax
Gold - Tyrese
Indigo - Maria
Lime Green - Balagor
Maroon - Hobert
Orange - Ajax
Pink - Brittany
Purple - Hobert
Red - Pai Cha
Silver - Queen Genevieve
White - Andrael
Yellow - Hobert


Here I struck through all the ones I remember an item being claimed for. Or a trap as those everyone saw.

Items we could verify not joke items like the shoe.

Add to it if I forgot someone.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:40
Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:35
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 8:00
Aquamarine - Queen Genevieve
Black - Dennis
Brown - Katy
Cream - Brittany
Dark Green - Ajax
Gold - Tyrese
Indigo - Maria
Lime Green - Balagor
Maroon - Hobert
Orange - Ajax
Pink - Brittany
Purple - Hobert
Red - Pai Cha
Silver - Queen Genevieve
White - Andrael
Yellow - Hobert


Here I struck through all the ones I remember an item being claimed for. Or a trap as those everyone saw.

Items we could verify not joke items like the shoe.

Add to it if I forgot someone.


I further struck through for people who died and were looted.

Pretty sure Dennis was looted in the silence room correct me if I'm wrong.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:42
hmm, ok thanks. That's more empty than I thought actually.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:46
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:42
hmm, ok thanks. That's more empty than I thought actually.


I could list the specific items I remember if it would help to jog peoples memory.

I don't think anything there was unknown or is still available.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:47
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:42
hmm, ok thanks. That's more empty than I thought actually.


Well Brittany said one of hers had a Frap in it.

And Hobert had one with a shoe that turned to dust.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 11:47
Any change in room number status or am I just searching randomly again? Has anyone checked the location of the creature/beast whatever it is that Boone was hoping we could find yesterday?

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Post #19: 15th May 2013 6:49:28 PM 
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 11:55
Sophia, why did you keep transforming?


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 12:01
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 15:55
Sophia, why did you keep transforming?


I bit her.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 12:06
Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:40


I further struck through for people who died and were looted.

Pretty sure Dennis was looted in the silence room correct me if I'm wrong.


I wouldn't list items, but wasn't there some issue about the note once Dennis died and was revived? I thought he said he no longer had it and then someone was passed the note, I'm thinking it was you, but can't remember on that exactly, I'd have to go back and check. So maybe someone did loot him, but we don't know who?


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:16
I don't mind speaking with you as well about it Walton. Kristoff, I would, but if I am right, and this person knows as well, then maybe the scumhunter checking this person might fail the test or whatever it is and it would be all for naught.

I guess you guys can just have Rita talk to me and I can say it when I am dead then.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 12:19
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 11:55
Sophia, why did you keep transforming?


I was bored


Mark @ 15/5/2013 12:25
I attempted to loot Ajax and came up with nothing on him so either someone got him first or he only carried the coin and it disintegrated.

Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong but from memory the people who have been checked and confirmed/denied are myself, Wilt, Brie, Kane, Culo, Ezra, Lee.

Yes most of them are dead, lets not talk about that


Maria @ 15/5/2013 12:53
If Tyrese talks to someone to give his suggestion for who the scumhunter scans next, I think he should tell it to Lee.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:54
Maria, I was thinking (if it isn't too big an issue with most people) that I just write a note and pass it amongst Lee, you, Boone and Walton if he wants to know, but that's it. It's not that I don't trust most of you, it's just, the less people know of it, the better, and the more people that it gets passed to, the easier it is to eliminate people and make this person aware.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 13:06
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:16
I don't mind speaking with you as well about it Walton. Kristoff, I would, but if I am right, and this person knows as well, then maybe the scumhunter checking this person might fail the test or whatever it is and it would be all for naught.

I guess you guys can just have Rita talk to me and I can say it when I am dead then.


Lets talk Tyrese.

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Post #20: 15th May 2013 8:33:42 PM 
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Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 11:55
Sophia, why did you keep transforming?


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 12:01
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 15:55
Sophia, why did you keep transforming?


I bit her.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 12:06
Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:40


I further struck through for people who died and were looted.

Pretty sure Dennis was looted in the silence room correct me if I'm wrong.


I wouldn't list items, but wasn't there some issue about the note once Dennis died and was revived? I thought he said he no longer had it and then someone was passed the note, I'm thinking it was you, but can't remember on that exactly, I'd have to go back and check. So maybe someone did loot him, but we don't know who?


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:16
I don't mind speaking with you as well about it Walton. Kristoff, I would, but if I am right, and this person knows as well, then maybe the scumhunter checking this person might fail the test or whatever it is and it would be all for naught.

I guess you guys can just have Rita talk to me and I can say it when I am dead then.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 12:19
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 11:55
Sophia, why did you keep transforming?


I was bored


Mark @ 15/5/2013 12:25
I attempted to loot Ajax and came up with nothing on him so either someone got him first or he only carried the coin and it disintegrated.

Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong but from memory the people who have been checked and confirmed/denied are myself, Wilt, Brie, Kane, Culo, Ezra, Lee.

Yes most of them are dead, lets not talk about that


Maria @ 15/5/2013 12:53
If Tyrese talks to someone to give his suggestion for who the scumhunter scans next, I think he should tell it to Lee.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:54
Maria, I was thinking (if it isn't too big an issue with most people) that I just write a note and pass it amongst Lee, you, Boone and Walton if he wants to know, but that's it. It's not that I don't trust most of you, it's just, the less people know of it, the better, and the more people that it gets passed to, the easier it is to eliminate people and make this person aware.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 13:06
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:16
I don't mind speaking with you as well about it Walton. Kristoff, I would, but if I am right, and this person knows as well, then maybe the scumhunter checking this person might fail the test or whatever it is and it would be all for naught.

I guess you guys can just have Rita talk to me and I can say it when I am dead then.


Lets talk Tyrese.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 13:48
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 12:54
Maria, I was thinking (if it isn't too big an issue with most people) that I just write a note and pass it amongst Lee, you, Boone and Walton if he wants to know, but that's it. It's not that I don't trust most of you, it's just, the less people know of it, the better, and the more people that it gets passed to, the easier it is to eliminate people and make this person aware.

I'm okay with it if you want to do it.


Helm @ 15/5/2013 13:49
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 12:06
Helm @ 15/5/2013 11:40


I further struck through for people who died and were looted.

Pretty sure Dennis was looted in the silence room correct me if I'm wrong.


I wouldn't list items, but wasn't there some issue about the note once Dennis died and was revived? I thought he said he no longer had it and then someone was passed the note, I'm thinking it was you, but can't remember on that exactly, I'd have to go back and check. So maybe someone did loot him, but we don't know who?


Yeah I did end up with his note.

I suppose that doesn't reflect well on me but I didn't loot him.

I'm sure Dennis would have said something if he lost a gun like that.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:01
You were supposed to get the note after him anyway, right?


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 14:04
she was


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:16
I'm not a fan of secrets but since it'll have to come out anyway, I don't see why not? (Regarding Tyrese speaking in private with a few people).


Boone @ 15/5/2013 14:17
i am verY curious about it now

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Post #21: 15th May 2013 8:35:27 PM 
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Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 14:22
Yeah... I don't see the reason for the secrecy. If you really have a good case against them, you should tell us so they can respond and we can decide for ourselves.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:23
His worry I think is that if they know they are under suspicion they may be able to trick the Hunter.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 14:24
I think it would be safer for them to be checked out first while they are unaware they are being suspected, because like you guys said, a lot of factors go into those checks and I am guessing if they know they are being suspected it might alter things.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 14:27
The other group has already been through it a number of times. I'm not sure if they had ways yo secretly pass notes/messages during the time they were finding scum so I guess I trust their opinion on whether or not it would harm a scan.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 14:28
*to (sorry Maria ;) )


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 14:32
I mean... I guess it could go one of two ways if you let it out in the open. Either it'd prevent the scan from happening or it'd expedite the process. I think it'd more likely be the latter.

If you do stick with the private thing, I think you should not tell us who you tell it to. Have the notebook (or walkie? Can't remember which you're using) passed to someone trusted, but don't say who. I think if the scum knows who you told, that wouldn't help either.

Scum-hunting is a very delicate process as you can see. ^_^


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:32
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 14:24
I think it would be safer for them to be checked out first while they are unaware they are being suspected, because like you guys said, a lot of factors go into those checks and I am guessing if they know they are being suspected it might alter things.

(Speaking to the other group) Is this true? If not, then there really is no need for secrecy and we could potential hold a trial of sorts, so to speak.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 14:35
Wont you still have to ask suspected person to say scum hunting lines to see if he is scum?

Seems scum hunter can scan posts, but person that is suspected will still have to be asked to say words that can be tested.

I dont see point in secrecy.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:40
It's a little more tricky than just asking "Are you scum".


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 14:42
Person Tyrese suspects can be asked to say words I did to clear myself, no? Lee has it saved down I think, I do not remember wording.

If person not want to do it, he must be hiding something.

If person does do it, scum hunter can check them.


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 14:42
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 13:35
Wont you still have to ask suspected person to say scum hunting lines to see if he is scum?

Seems scum hunter can scan posts, but person that is suspected will still have to be asked to say words that can be tested.

I dont see point in secrecy.

Well, this is why I suggested passing it to someone unknown (but invariably trusted) if we're doing the private thing. That way they can "investigate" without the person knowing.

Although, it'd still probably be pretty obvious. It depends exactly what evidence Tyrese has, but I think any scum being asked about anything with regards to Angela's murder is going to know something is up.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 14:46
I do not know how you guys have handled problems here but our group has been torn by secrecy in past.

It was only through our sheer willpower and strength that we keep together today.

We must not fall into same pits as we have before.

I do not believe secrecy on this matter will help, we must confront people we have problems with and solve those problems. Only then can we move forward, united.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 14:50
Do we know who the scumhunter is checking this phase?


Mark @ 15/5/2013 14:52
When we fight we just call each other dumb and get over it honestly.

I think, though reluctant to allow tyrese a walkie, it's best to do this process in secret.

There is a rule that if someone is being forced into a scan it comes up as inconclusive.

One of the many fun rules


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:53
Nope. I mean I know who I suggested next but I dunno if anything has been said that they can check or how strictly they are following the list.

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Post #22: 15th May 2013 8:36:35 PM 
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Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:54
I'm a good guy


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:54
I'm a good guy


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:54
I think something like that would work since it's freely offered and not forced.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 14:57
*rubs back of head*
the suspense on this is driving me mad. i just want to know who hE suspects already.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:58
Me too Boone. I get very curious when I'm not hip to secrets. It drives me mad.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 14:58
I'm curious what you have to say, Tyrese.


Mark @ 15/5/2013 14:59
Sophia @ 15/5/2013 14:58
Me too Boone. I get very curious when I'm not hip to secrets. It drives me mad.


Reason #1 I miss twin threads.


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:01
Mark @ 15/5/2013 13:52
When we fight we just call each other dumb and get over it honestly.

I think, though reluctant to allow tyrese a walkie, it's best to do this process in secret.

There is a rule that if someone is being forced into a scan it comes up as inconclusive.

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I think if the person just responded to Tyrese's accusations, it could work. If they ignored them, then it's pretty obvious they're scum, scan or no scan.

As long as we're not forcing anyone to do/say anything, it'd be fine... I think. Someone defending themselves against accusations seems pretty "natural" to me.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:03
wE could always tie the person up with the rope once tyrese says who it is.
if we feEEl he has enough evidence.

and we could then attempt to stEAl from the person with the gloves. to see if we get the gun.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 15:05
Tieing someone up would probably ruin any scanning for a phase


Hobert @ 15/5/2013 15:05
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 12:42
Person Tyrese suspects can be asked to say words I did to clear myself, no? Lee has it saved down I think, I do not remember wording.

If person not want to do it, he must be hiding something.

If person does do it, scum hunter can check them.


I don't get this. Like they said it's not as simple as saying those words and being cleared.

The scanning process is so delicate anyways so I don't even trust everyone who has already been "cleared". It's hard to know what loopholes in the process have been used or not.

As for this whole thing, wouldn't you think with a scanner on the loose scum would be less likely to say anything indefinite? Whether they know they are being precautioned or not, they'll still take the precautions and avoid the scan.

All this to say that I feel it's worthless to hide it and should just confront the person. That's my put in.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:06
I don't understand why Tyrese needs to do it in private. What makes his suspicions any more valid then anyone else's? Being scum doesn't give you any super insight. And any evil player is/will have been on high alert since we met you guys.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:06
Since we seem to be so split, just wait until I'm dead and Rita can talk to me and pass it on accordingly. I should be dead in about two phases by walking into a trap anyways.


Hobert @ 15/5/2013 15:07
Boone @ 15/5/2013 13:03
wE could always tie the person up with the rope once tyrese says who it is.
if we feEEl he has enough evidence.

and we could then attempt to stEAl from the person with the gloves. to see if we get the gun.


Weren't you the one who said they could just pass the gun to frame someone else anyways?


Hobert @ 15/5/2013 15:07
Boone @ 15/5/2013 13:03
wE could always tie the person up with the rope once tyrese says who it is.
if we feEEl he has enough evidence.

and we could then attempt to stEAl from the person with the gloves. to see if we get the gun.


Weren't you the one who said they could just pass the gun to frame someone else anyways?


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:07
Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:03
wE could always tie the person up with the rope once tyrese says who it is.
if we feEEl he has enough evidence.

and we could then attempt to stEAl from the person with the gloves. to see if we get the gun.

What if they're quicker than you and hand the gun off the moment they know they're a suspect and before they get tied? I think your plan could work, but we might need the element of surprise.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:08
Besides, the reason I want to talk in private is because it's not 100% concrete evidence but more situational evidence I've picked up on for the majority of these phases.

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Post #23: 15th May 2013 8:38:25 PM 
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Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:09
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 14:06
Since we seem to be so split, just wait until I'm dead and Rita can talk to me and pass it on accordingly. I should be dead in about two phases by walking into a trap anyways.

What good would waiting do? The sooner we find the scum, the better.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:09
Maria @ 15/5/2013 14:07
Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:03
wE could always tie the person up with the rope once tyrese says who it is.
if we feEEl he has enough evidence.

and we could then attempt to stEAl from the person with the gloves. to see if we get the gun.

What if they're quicker than you and hand the gun off the moment they know they're a suspect and before they get tied? I think your plan could work, but we might need the element of surprise.


Unless they've already passed the gun over (that's assuming it's still there and it wasn't an item that disintegrates like Sophia's weapon did with the poisonous red room)


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 15:10
And if were wrong the real killer can pass the gun to frame the tied up person


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:11
(Are you guys collaborating with scum?)


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 15:11
Plus if it's one shot it's probably gone anyway


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:11
What's the difference between me saying I think I know who scum is and Tyrese aside from alignment? He is in no more of a position than I to speculate. I am unsure why for 45 phases if one had suspicions they would voice them but all of a sudden it requires Walkies.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:11
If anyone mysteriously got a gun, I hope they'd say so.


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:12
Sophia @ 15/5/2013 19:10
And if were wrong the real killer can pass the gun to frame the tied up person


(We'll "test" him, and there will be lot's of time since the killer is disarmed.)


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:13
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:11
What's the difference between me saying I think I know who scum is and Tyrese aside from alignment? He is in no more of a position than I to speculate. I am unsure why for 45 phases if one had suspicions they would voice them but all of a sudden it requires Walkies.

We haven't all openly voiced our suspicions all 45 phases...


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:17
Most of us have. And as Urk said, I do not understand why we are negotiating with scum when really, he is in no better of a position. And the whole logic of doing it in secret is stupid as this whole thing has certainly put the scum on alert.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:17
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:06
Since we seem to be so split, just wait until I'm dead and Rita can talk to me and pass it on accordingly. I should be dead in about two phases by walking into a trap anyways.

Or you'd get teleported away and we'd be screwed without this information. o.O


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:18
East is trapped Boone.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:18
Just forget it then, I'm scum so I must be wrong.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:20
yes they might ditch the gun.
but then they wouldnt have a gun.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:21
my hope is that the gun is out of ammunition though
*shrugs*

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Post #24: 15th May 2013 8:40:43 PM 
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Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:21
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:18
East is trapped Boone.


i had a fEEling.
*looks eastwards*
*holds hands out into the rain*
that storm is harsh. it will likely kill one of us


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:22
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:17
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:06
Since we seem to be so split, just wait until I'm dead and Rita can talk to me and pass it on accordingly. I should be dead in about two phases by walking into a trap anyways.

Or you'd get teleported away and we'd be screwed without this information. o.O

In that case, he should have a walkie if he won't speak openly. ^^; Unless we're just going to leave him for dead.


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:22
(No, you're scum and have no credibility.)


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:23
Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:21
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:18
East is trapped Boone.


i had a fEEling.
*looks eastwards*
*holds hands out into the rain*
that storm is harsh. it will likely kill one of us

Oh. :/


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:23
Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 14:22
(No, you're scum and have no credibility.)


exactly.


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:23
Maria @ 15/5/2013 19:22
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:17
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:06
Since we seem to be so split, just wait until I'm dead and Rita can talk to me and pass it on accordingly. I should be dead in about two phases by walking into a trap anyways.

Or you'd get teleported away and we'd be screwed without this information. o.O

In that case, he should have a walkie if he won't speak openly. ^^; Unless we're just going to leave him for dead.


(No walkies, let's just kill him now if you want to be safe.)


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:23
If the storm will kill us, that could explain the "ultimate sacrifice" message.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:23
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 7:18
Just forget it then, I'm scum so I must be wrong.


It's funny because your entire attitude has been your scum so right. However if you had read my posts you would hve realised I said you were in no better position then anyone else to judge who is scum and who is not. No one else needs walkies for scum hunting so why do you? Not saying you are wrong at all.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:24
kill one of us*


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 15:24
All of this has already put the scum on notice anyway. And I'm sure the scum is trying its best to figure out who the scum hunter is. So everyone who is trusted among everyone should talk in private with each other and figure it out. Sorry Tyrese, I'd be willing to listen to you in private but others don't seem to think its a good idea.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:24
*thinks*
lets just give him a walkie and get on with it then. if he isnt going to say.
whoever he tells can make a decision on how valid the claims are.


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:26
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 14:24
All of this has already put the scum on notice anyway. And I'm sure the scum is trying its best to figure out who the scum hunter is. So everyone who is trusted among everyone should talk in private with each other and figure it out. Sorry Tyrese, I'd be willing to listen to you in private but others don't seem to think its a good idea.

The fact that the scum is already on notice is exactly the reason why there's no point in keeping it private anymore.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:26
its in more response to Urk.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:27
I would be surprised if the scum has figured it out... You guys have revealed a lot of your roles/thy have been revealed some way or another.


Dennis @ 15/5/2013 15:27
I understand everyone wanting to be trustworthy of Tyrese because he "came out" about his allegiance- but he only did it to avoid getting lynched. I think it's incredibly unintelligent to put any sort of trust in him just because you think he's a nice, genuine guy. That's naive.

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Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:28
Hasnt*


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:29
(Well scum has to act fast, we have the scum detector clearing up people 1 by 1 and someone mugging to look for any suspicious items, his/her days are numbered)


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:30
tyrese. if youre going to reveal to rita when or if you die which would alert your suspect.
then why not simplY reveal now


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 15:30
Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:26
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 14:24
All of this has already put the scum on notice anyway. And I'm sure the scum is trying its best to figure out who the scum hunter is. So everyone who is trusted among everyone should talk in private with each other and figure it out. Sorry Tyrese, I'd be willing to listen to you in private but others don't seem to think its a good idea.

The fact that the scum is already on notice is exactly the reason why there's no point in keeping it private anymore.


Yeah but if the scum knows that we're onto them then they might do something about it. Using specific names/colors to figure it out in public might not be the best idea.


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:32
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 14:30
Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:26
Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 14:24
All of this has already put the scum on notice anyway. And I'm sure the scum is trying its best to figure out who the scum hunter is. So everyone who is trusted among everyone should talk in private with each other and figure it out. Sorry Tyrese, I'd be willing to listen to you in private but others don't seem to think its a good idea.

The fact that the scum is already on notice is exactly the reason why there's no point in keeping it private anymore.


Yeah but if the scum knows that we're onto them then they might do something about it. Using specific names/colors to figure it out in public might not be the best idea.

What can they do about it? If they try anything drastic, then they're confirmed as scum.


Walton Cotton @ 15/5/2013 15:33
Are we sure they can't kill someone in private again?


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:33
I like most of you guys, but I'm done with some of you. Good luck in finding this person, I hope you do. I'm not gonna say anymore. Just tell me what exits to post until I die and I'll call it a day. I hope most of you make it out of here alive.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:33
i am lEAning towards being in favor of tyrese simply telling us now.
mostly because the conversation about it seems to be going in circles. and i want to move on


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:36
#Lynch: Tyrese

DON'T LET ME SEE YOU ON MY EARTH AGAIN!


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:36
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 7:33
I like most of you guys, but I'm done with some of you. Good luck in finding this person, I hope you do. I'm not gonna say anymore. Just tell me what exits to post until I die and I'll call it a day. I hope most of you make it out of here alive.


That to me is saying hve me a private conversation or you guys aren't finding out at all. Terrible attitude and proves his suspicions have little actual basis.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:36
Give me*


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:37
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 14:36
Tyrese @ 16/5/2013 7:33
I like most of you guys, but I'm done with some of you. Good luck in finding this person, I hope you do. I'm not gonna say anymore. Just tell me what exits to post until I die and I'll call it a day. I hope most of you make it out of here alive.


That to me is saying hve me a private conversation or you guys aren't finding out at all. Terrible attitude and proves his suspicions have little actual basis.


I did say I'll write it on a piece of paper and pass it amongst a few people and they can then act accordingly based on that, if they agree or disagree, but some people seem to be blind when it comes to reading everything.


Rita Kanakiri @ 15/5/2013 15:38
Tyrese... if you really mean it when you say you want us to win, you shouldn't hold back. Even if your suspicions don't end up being true, they still might help us. Don't let a couple of people hold you back from helping the majority.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:39
Tyrese can you answer why your suspicions as opposed To others need to be done in secret? What are the special circumstances which arise to make this so?


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:39
My biggest fear is being shot down right away because of who this person is, because ironically enough, the people who seem to have the biggest issue with me also trust this person the most, have done so since day one.

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Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:40
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 14:39
Tyrese can you answer why your suspicions as opposed To others need to be done in secret? What are the special circumstances which arise to make this so?


Go read the last few pages and I don't mean that to be snarky, I've already stated my reasons.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:40
Sighhhh...

In other news, why would we split up anytime soon if the scumchecker can check us all? It just seems like a weird power to have if they can check anyone in the game. Certainly makes our job easier.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:41
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:39
My biggest fear is being shot down right away because of who this person is, because ironically enough, the people who seem to have the biggest issue with me also trust this person the most, have done so since day one.

I think no matter who the person is, we will all be willing to listen and evaluate it. We won't turn a blind eye on it, I can tell you that. :) We can't afford to.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:42
Why do you worry about death then next minute tell us to kill you? Why would scum kill someone who is likely to die?

I am guessing this person is Helm or Airlea btw


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:42
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:40
Sighhhh...

In other news, why would we split up anytime soon if the scumchecker can check us all? It just seems like a weird power to have if they can check anyone in the game. Certainly makes our job easier.

and when I say anyone in the game I mean in their room I assume :lol: Though most of all the people in the game are in fact in this room anyway


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:43
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:42
Why do you worry about death then next minute tell us to kill you? Why would scum kill someone who is likely to die?

I am guessing this person is Helm or Airlea btw

Why would scum kill another scum to begin with :lol:

Not gonna lie those were the first two names that came to my mind as well, along with you and Maria hahaa


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:43
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:40
Sighhhh...

In other news, why would we split up anytime soon if the scumchecker can check us all? It just seems like a weird power to have if they can check anyone in the game. Certainly makes our job easier.

We could cover more ground faster if we split sooner, but I'd rather spend more time moving together if it means everyone can be checked.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:43
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:39
My biggest fear is being shot down right away because of who this person is, because ironically enough, the people who seem to have the biggest issue with me also trust this person the most, have done so since day one.


those people are shoOoting you down as it is. so why not tell the rest of us really


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:44
I don't think it's me and Maria cause we have been in the spotlight at times.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:45
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:44
I don't think it's me and Maria cause we have been in the spotlight at times.

Kristoff you're always in the spot light <3 haa

But I agree.


Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:45
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 19:39
My biggest fear is being shot down right away because of who this person is, because ironically enough, the people who seem to have the biggest issue with me also trust this person the most, have done so since day one.


(Wait, You're suicidal being the shoe and you worry about being shot? We gain more from you getting shot by testing if our killer is still dangerous.)


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:46
Son Gokurk @ 15/5/2013 15:45
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 19:39
My biggest fear is being shot down right away because of who this person is, because ironically enough, the people who seem to have the biggest issue with me also trust this person the most, have done so since day one.


(Wait, You're suicidal being the shoe and you worry about being shot? We gain more from you getting shot by testing if our killer is still dangerous.)


shot down. not shot
:heppy: :lol:


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:46
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:43
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:42
Why do you worry about death then next minute tell us to kill you? Why would scum kill someone who is likely to die?

I am guessing this person is Helm or Airlea btw

Why would scum kill another scum to begin with :lol:

Not gonna lie those were the first two names that came to my mind as well, along with you and Maria hahaa

Me, suspected alongside Kristoff? I think this is the first time it's happened! :D


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:47
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:44
I don't think it's me and Maria cause we have been in the spotlight at times.

And I've never shot someone in this labyrinth.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:47
Why the fuck not, seems to have caused enough shit already.

I think our secret killer is Airlea. I just do not buy her story of looting Angela immediately after her death considering only the killer would know she is about to die and would be prepared to loot her immediately. I had read the post within a minute of Willis posting her death and immediately attempted to loot her in my journal, within a minute of that being posted.

Not to mention she also had Balagors rope, and claimed it had been passed to her? I've been with her for the majority of this game, she is the only person I know whose been successful in looting multiple people after their deaths, whether she's admitted to such, or passed it off as "those items were passed to her", not to mention it was between her and Katy for the silent room, yet people do not suspect her for anything, and Katy is dead.

It's the perfect cover, everybody is so far up her ass and trust her that nobody wants to second guess or suspect her. I'm not falling for it, I just know something is off about her. Her power to eavesdrop on other rooms could also be an evil type role, I mean listening in on people without them knowing? I can feel it in my gut if I'm to be brutally honest and it kinda sucks because even I trusted her for the majority of this lab as one of the more trustworthier people, but something is off. She's playing it smart, she has everybody's trust for the most part, she always seems to be successful at looting people, or having people pass her off items because they trust her, her role is useful to the group but I think it's more of an eavesdropping role then a checking role, and she's valuable to the group as a mapmaker. Most of you may not like it, but I think there might be more here.

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Post #27: 15th May 2013 9:09:16 PM 
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Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:49
Maria @ 16/5/2013 7:47
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:44
I don't think it's me and Maria cause we have been in the spotlight at times.

And I've never shot someone in this labyrinth.


What? I didn't say you or anyone had lol. Or did you post that for the scum hunter ;)


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:50
l o l


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:50
I thought you'd say Airlea, Tyrese.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:51
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:50
l o l


-_-


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 15:51
Is Airlea up for scum check?


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:51
airlea. who did you pass the gloves to?


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:51
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:49
Maria @ 16/5/2013 7:47
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:44
I don't think it's me and Maria cause we have been in the spotlight at times.

And I've never shot someone in this labyrinth.


What? I didn't say you or anyone had lol. Or did you post that for the scum hunter ;)

I know. :P I said it to proclaim my innocence.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:53
Well I said we would not turn a blind eye (so don't -_- me), but I seriously do not believe Airlea to be evil. Any role can be taken evilly, and I do not recall the items being passed to her but if anyone can confirm that they passed her items then she's good.

I think Airlea has been one of our most valuable members as far as note taking and sanity has gone. She was one of the main people who confronted the Queen who turned up being evil so I feel like if she were evil, she would have been agreeing with the Queen and tried to split the group further, but she didn't.

But we can scum check. I just severely doubt it.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:54
Maria @ 15/5/2013 14:51
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:49
Maria @ 16/5/2013 7:47
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:44
I don't think it's me and Maria cause we have been in the spotlight at times.

And I've never shot someone in this labyrinth.


What? I didn't say you or anyone had lol. Or did you post that for the scum hunter ;)

I know. :P I said it to proclaim my innocence.


If this is how it works

I've never shot or harmed anyone in this labyrinth either.

I'm sure people are going to think otherwise so if this helps, then makes it easier.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 15:54
Would be poetic for reward for silence room to be silence gun.....


Mark @ 15/5/2013 15:54
Still catching up.

On the note of saying that the gun is a mute point because it's out of ammunition is one of the most stupid things I've heard. There are probably a million ways to reload that gun and I can think of at least one in my head right now.

Searching for the silencer should be our number one priority, and if the person who currently has the gloves hasn't been frisking someone up once per phase, I would call them dumb as all hell.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 15:54
I have no problem being checked. You can even use the quote I made after getting the items because there was no force in that situation. I have it saved if no one else does, I'll even post it. I was also honest when I said I was passed the rope.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:55
it is times like this
that i reallY wish you all did not know we had a scum hunter


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:55
Don't waste a check on Airlea. It's a waste of time. Especially as she would know all your roles as she has etched you guys for a while. She would have killed scumfinder if it was her.


Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:55
Watched*

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Post #28: 15th May 2013 9:21:54 PM 
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Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:56
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:53
Well I said we would not turn a blind eye (so don't -_- me), but I seriously do not believe Airlea to be evil. Any role can be taken evilly, and I do not recall the items being passed to her but if anyone can confirm that they passed her items then she's good.

I think Airlea has been one of our most valuable members as far as note taking and sanity has gone. She was one of the main people who confronted the Queen who turned up being evil so I feel like if she were evil, she would have been agreeing with the Queen and tried to split the group further, but she didn't.

But we can scum check. I just severely doubt it.


You do realize the majority of scums win conditions is to kill everyone, they get nothing out of keeping scum alive so she had no reason to keep Queen alive. Just makes things easier for scum if you ask me.

and yeah, she's valuable, but that is my point, she's gained most people's trust like this for exactly this kind of thing.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 15:56
Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:51
airlea. who did you pass the gloves to?


Well, considering I can tell you 100% I am not the killer, if I say who that will only put that person at risk.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:58
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 15:56
Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:51
airlea. who did you pass the gloves to?


Well, considering I can tell you 100% I am not the killer, if I say who that will only put that person at risk.


but if you say who. then that person can simplY pass the gloves to someone else


Maria @ 15/5/2013 15:59
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:53
Well I said we would not turn a blind eye (so don't -_- me), but I seriously do not believe Airlea to be evil. Any role can be taken evilly, and I do not recall the items being passed to her but if anyone can confirm that they passed her items then she's good.

I think Airlea has been one of our most valuable members as far as note taking and sanity has gone. She was one of the main people who confronted the Queen who turned up being evil so I feel like if she were evil, she would have been agreeing with the Queen and tried to split the group further, but she didn't.

But we can scum check. I just severely doubt it.

I don't think she's evil either, but I think Tyrese's observations about her are accurate and I agree that Airlea is smart. I don't know that she shot Angela (or why someone would shoot Angela), but she was someone I suspected after the silence room was brought up.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:00
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:56
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:53
Well I said we would not turn a blind eye (so don't -_- me), but I seriously do not believe Airlea to be evil. Any role can be taken evilly, and I do not recall the items being passed to her but if anyone can confirm that they passed her items then she's good.

I think Airlea has been one of our most valuable members as far as note taking and sanity has gone. She was one of the main people who confronted the Queen who turned up being evil so I feel like if she were evil, she would have been agreeing with the Queen and tried to split the group further, but she didn't.

But we can scum check. I just severely doubt it.


You do realize the majority of scums win conditions is to kill everyone, they get nothing out of keeping scum alive so she had no reason to keep Queen alive. Just makes things easier for scum if you ask me.

and yeah, she's valuable, but that is my point, she's gained most people's trust like this for exactly this kind of thing.

Yes but she would have taken the opportunity to split our group, but she didn't.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 16:01
Kristoff the Grey @ 15/5/2013 15:55
Don't waste a check on Airlea. It's a waste of time. Especially as she would know all your roles as she has etched you guys for a while. She would have killed scumfinder if it was her.

Unless she's ten steps ahead of everybody... >.>


Maria @ 15/5/2013 16:02
And why shoot Angela if she knew the scumhunter?


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:02
*thinks*

any previous actions hardlY matter.
some people forget. people can go mad down here in an instant. if they helped before it makes no difference. look at tyrese and ezra. and my group experienced the reverse with wilt.

whoever received the gun could have been poisoned by it for all wE know. it could have driven them mad. and changed them. anYthing like that can happen down here. so the past hardly matters.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:02
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:00
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:56
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:53
Well I said we would not turn a blind eye (so don't -_- me), but I seriously do not believe Airlea to be evil. Any role can be taken evilly, and I do not recall the items being passed to her but if anyone can confirm that they passed her items then she's good.

I think Airlea has been one of our most valuable members as far as note taking and sanity has gone. She was one of the main people who confronted the Queen who turned up being evil so I feel like if she were evil, she would have been agreeing with the Queen and tried to split the group further, but she didn't.

But we can scum check. I just severely doubt it.


You do realize the majority of scums win conditions is to kill everyone, they get nothing out of keeping scum alive so she had no reason to keep Queen alive. Just makes things easier for scum if you ask me.

and yeah, she's valuable, but that is my point, she's gained most people's trust like this for exactly this kind of thing.

Yes but she would have taken the opportunity to split our group, but she didn't.


then you guys are just being naive, and have fallen for it like I said.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 16:03
Perhaps she is just that good my friends.

I would not say scan on Airlea would be waste, it would be waste not to scan her.

I do believe there are some other members of our old group that might be higher up list but in time she has to undergo scan.


Maria @ 15/5/2013 16:03
This is like a Hitchcock movie. ^^


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
I don't even know if Airlea knows who the scumhunter is, but if the other group knows, then she probably knows as well. In which case, if she were the killer then she 1) would have shot the scum hunter, 2) NOT admitted to looting Angela, 3) NOT passed the gloves off.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:05
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:02
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 15:00
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 15:56
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 14:53
Well I said we would not turn a blind eye (so don't -_- me), but I seriously do not believe Airlea to be evil. Any role can be taken evilly, and I do not recall the items being passed to her but if anyone can confirm that they passed her items then she's good.

I think Airlea has been one of our most valuable members as far as note taking and sanity has gone. She was one of the main people who confronted the Queen who turned up being evil so I feel like if she were evil, she would have been agreeing with the Queen and tried to split the group further, but she didn't.

But we can scum check. I just severely doubt it.


You do realize the majority of scums win conditions is to kill everyone, they get nothing out of keeping scum alive so she had no reason to keep Queen alive. Just makes things easier for scum if you ask me.

and yeah, she's valuable, but that is my point, she's gained most people's trust like this for exactly this kind of thing.

Yes but she would have taken the opportunity to split our group, but she didn't.


then you guys are just being naive, and have fallen for it like I said.

I'm not saying not to check Airlea, I'm saying to do it so we can prove she's innocent, but it will be a waste. I think it would be naive to turn on our most trusted members simply because anyone (scum or not) told us to).


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:06
Yeah, but regardless of that Peter, I just gave you some observations that in my mind, I think makes her a good suspect.

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Post #29: 15th May 2013 9:25:16 PM 
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Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:06
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward

Fair enough but that doesn't detract from my other points.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:07
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:06
Yeah, but regardless of that Peter, I just gave you some observations that in my mind, I think makes her a good suspect.

I appreciate that you are willing to share your observations.


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:07
Boone @ 15/5/2013 15:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


Yeah, I think that person should as well, not that it's going to prove her innocence 100%. That person can just come out and say it and pass it along as well to someone they trust.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 16:07
I'm a good suspect. I picked up all the guns in the gun room.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 16:07
Tyrese said nothing about turning on Airlea, merely told us observation. Which I think where fair.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:08
I'd rather be scanned to be honest. Then the doubts can be cleared up and we can move forward and find the real killer. Here is my quote, or feel free to check anything I have posted.

Airlea @ 13/5/2013 3:42
Ok, here's the deal. I have no idea who shot Angela, but I can tell you that while they may be a good shot they were slow with their inventory actions. I posted in my inventory and received the items. I immediately felt scum was going to try to pull the same stunt Carl pulled and my reaction was simply to make sure that did NOT happen again. Now before anyone gets trigger happy, I do not hold the gloves any longer they have been passed to a safer place.

She also held the beacon and scroll if you have someone you would prefer to hold those I will pass them along as well. Just tell me who you prefer to have them.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:09
i confirmed earlier that airlea had passed me the bEAcon


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:09
As much as I appreciate that, I don't think you saying you have no idea who shot her, is the same as saying I did not shoot her (if that is how this persons power works) which we can't know for sure since we don't, and I agree with Hobert, considering the checks, I don't think are ever going to be 100% accurate.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:09
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 15/5/2013 16:07
Tyrese said nothing about turning on Airlea, merely told us observation. Which I think where fair.

It's fair.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:10
Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:09
As much as I appreciate that, I don't think you saying you have no idea who shot her, is the same as saying I did not shoot her (if that is how this persons power works) which we can't know for sure since we don't, and I agree with Hobert, considering the checks, I don't think are ever going to be 100% accurate.

If she shot Angela, then she wouldn't be able to truthfully say she "had no idea" who shot her.


Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:12
-eye roll- I agree with Boone here, really wish y'all didn't know about this. You're just proving to fight like idiots.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:12
We are fighting? News to me.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:13
rita! :pissed:
*shakes fist*


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:13
This is more informative than the first 10 pages about nonsense, tbh.


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


If I say who before they have a chance to pass them off it could be very bad. I have no problem saying after I know they aren't at risk by my posting.


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Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:13
rita! :pissed:
*shakes fist*


just kidding rita. it is simplY unfortunate.
it must have been hard to explain how we caught onto queeen beast


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:13
rita! :pissed:
*shakes fist*


just kidding rita. it is simplY unfortunate.
it must have been hard to explain how we caught onto queeen beast


Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:13
This is more informative than the first 10 pages about nonsense, tbh.


I find it more like pent up aggression that you all haven't aired out in 45 phases. Honestly, I'm pretty sure StoneGroup all openly said their suspicions after Ezra turned out to be scum, and we always talk it out.

The gloves clearly aren't being used to any sort of effective use at this point.

We haven't even ventured into talking about the storm to the east, or who will be going down with the scale.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


If I say who before they have a chance to pass them off it could be very bad. I have no problem saying after I know they aren't at risk by my posting.



okay.
whoever has the gloves. pass them
then tell us that you had them


Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


If I say who before they have a chance to pass them off it could be very bad. I have no problem saying after I know they aren't at risk by my posting.



Disagree, the thief role died with Parker and Carl.


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:16
sign your name :goodtimes:

did not receive gloves from airlea-
boone


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:17
And whoever sent the rope could maybe let them know that as well, thanks.


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:17
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


If I say who before they have a chance to pass them off it could be very bad. I have no problem saying after I know they aren't at risk by my posting.



Disagree, the thief role died with Parker and Carl.

That doesn't mean it won't put them at risk of people who would want the gloves. Look what happened to Angela. That wasn't a stealing role...


Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:17
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward


If I say who before they have a chance to pass them off it could be very bad. I have no problem saying after I know they aren't at risk by my posting.



Disagree, the thief role died with Parker and Carl.


I don't want the person to be killed because I trusted them. :\


Maria @ 15/5/2013 16:18
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:12
-eye roll- I agree with Boone here, really wish y'all didn't know about this. You're just proving to fight like idiots.

This isn't us fighting. :P


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:18
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:13
This is more informative than the first 10 pages about nonsense, tbh.


I find it more like pent up aggression that you all haven't aired out in 45 phases. Honestly, I'm pretty sure StoneGroup all openly said their suspicions after Ezra turned out to be scum, and we always talk it out.

The gloves clearly aren't being used to any sort of effective use at this point.

We haven't even ventured into talking about the storm to the east, or who will be going down with the scale.

Then lessss talk about it.

It's stormy. It's trapped! Want to go? :o

And who would dive down with the scales? I don't know. Is there any benefit to anyone in particular doing it?


Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:19
Maria @ 15/5/2013 16:18
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:12
-eye roll- I agree with Boone here, really wish y'all didn't know about this. You're just proving to fight like idiots.

This isn't us fighting. :P

They should have seen us with the Queen :P


Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:20
I don't really care who has the gloves honestly, though I will admit that I do wish it was in the hands of a StoneGroup member, I won't lie, that's one of the few good things we've accomplished.

I just want it to be put to good use. Angela used it once every phase, and not once since we joined up has an item gone missing, and it's a little bit of a sad feeling in the way that nothing seems to be getting accomplished in that sense.


Sophia @ 15/5/2013 16:20
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:15
Airlea @ 15/5/2013 16:13
Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:04
Peter Mallick @ 15/5/2013 16:03
3) NOT passed the gloves off.


i am waiting for confirmation that she did pass the gloves off.
onlY one person can confirm if she did or not. that person should come forward



If I say who before they have a chance to pass them off it could be very bad. I have no problem saying after I know they aren't at risk by my posting.



Disagree, the thief role died with Parker and Carl.


Could be two like with the Twins and whatever Balagor/Fong were


Boone @ 15/5/2013 16:21
Mark @ 15/5/2013 16:20
I don't really care who has the gloves honestly, though I will admit that I do wish it was in the hands of a StoneGroup member, I won't lie, that's one of the few good things we've accomplished.

I just want it to be put to good use. Angela used it once every phase, and not once since we joined up has an item gone missing, and it's a little bit of a sad feeling in the way that nothing seems to be getting accomplished in that sense.


i dont care who has them either. i simplY want to know where they are.
i want to know they are being put to goOod use as well


Tyrese @ 15/5/2013 16:21
Kristoff, do you think your powers can check if there is a trap underwater as well or no?

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