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| Post #16: 9th May 2013 1:15:07 AM | |
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| Kristoff, you're not the group scumhunter. Sorry. |
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| As I just said, I didn't say I am. I have caught no scum. |
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| ^Unless if you are scum Maria :) |
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*coughs a little blood up on Kristoff's robe"
Oops, sorry. |
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| And Airlea while you have not exited first your role is crucial to us winning/survival. Maria's supposed role only helps herself (no one else who has claimed has such a role) and she is for sure hiding aspects of her role. And people have agreed with me via the walkies! |
Kristoff, I know you and Hobert don't think I'm being truthful, but I'm not hiding anything about my ability. I've been open about it. I can teleport myself between parallel rooms. It's not an inconsistent power with who I am. I literally teleported to this labyrinth because I'm trying to recover the stolen amulet.
As for my role, the one thing I haven't told you is the name, but you never asked for that. If you want to know, the role is called Anomaly and it's probably called that because I'm not from this dimension. My world isn't this one.
If you want to know why I've called myself a magical girl instead of an anomaly, it's because I am a magical girl. It's my profession, and before you accuse me of tricking you with the name, I told you a long time ago that "magical girl" was not the name of the role, but that it is what I am. |
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Anyway...
It has been 40 phases. We have found one (or two if you count the unexitable door) clues on where the Guardians are. And even then the one solid clue we have is extremely vague. I think first chance we get we need to head to the past then backtrack to that NW room. If that does not have a guardian in it... |
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| ^Unless if you are scum Maria :) |
I'm not, but I don't know what you consider catching scum to be. All you've done is annoy me. |
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*coughs a little blood up on Kristoff's robe"
Oops, sorry. |
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Do you actually get symptoms? |
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Why are some so fixed upon finding scum? We do not win if we find all scum, we win when we defeat Willis.
Lot of scum seem to be confirmed in other group. Fong, Parker, Wilt/Mark, Culo? Kane? and then we have Carl. What make people think we have any?
We should focus on defeating Willis, these scum discussions will only divide us. Which is ultimately what scum want so they can stop us from defeating Willis, so lets not help them.
United we stand. Divided we fall. |
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Anyway...
It has been 40 phases. We have found one (or two if you count the unexitable door) clues on where the Guardians are. And even then the one solid clue we have is extremely vague. I think first chance we get we need to head to the past then backtrack to that NW room. If that does not have a guardian in it... |
Yes, that's what everyone wants to do. |
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| Post #17: 9th May 2013 1:37:38 AM | |
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Maria you did tell me on the walkies long ago something along the lines of "Currently, that's all I can do".
Also almost every other known role has a benefit to the group. Mine, the healers, Airlea, Hoberts, Dennis, Britt, Pai and Ajax. Ari's I guess can be useful as a scout. Yet yours is just teleporting individually which, as Hobert pointed out, is something which would benefit and evil player significantly more than a good player. |
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*coughs a little blood up on Kristoff's robe"
Oops, sorry. |
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Do you actually get symptoms? |
Only in the initial red-room flavor. |
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*coughs a little blood up on Kristoff's robe"
Oops, sorry. |
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Do you actually get symptoms? |
Only in the initial red-room flavor. |
I have a feeling it could be a trick but its not really a risk worth taking almost :\
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| I thought the same thing. |
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Maria you did tell me on the walkies long ago something along the lines of "Currently, that's all I can do".
Also almost every other known role has a benefit to the group. Mine, the healers, Airlea, Hoberts, Dennis, Britt, Pai and Ajax. Ari's I guess can be useful as a scout. Yet yours is just teleporting individually which, as Hobert pointed out, is something which would benefit and evil player significantly more than a good player. |
I said "currently" because my powers have been weak ever since I got here. I wasn't able to use any of my magical power until that purple flash in Room 9880* and I didn't know if I would get more power back as we continued. As of now, I haven't gotten any more of it back. If I had, I would have told you.
My power could be useful for scouting if I had a way to communicate across times. We tried that with the walkies and failed. Any power could benefit an evil person more than a good person. It depends on what the person chooses to do. Even if you had a power that only let you heal other people, you could choose not to use it, and that wouldn't benefit a group. |
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Yes but I assume the role is actively used.
Some others seem to trust you so I will drop it (although I am sure you were well aware of this for the past 30 phases or so). |
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Yes but I assume the role is actively used.
Some others seem to trust you so I will drop it (although I am sure you were well aware of this for the past 30 phases or so). |
Which role do you assume is actively used? Mine or the hypothetical one?
And you mean that I was well aware that you don't trust me? You said before that you didn't trust me, so yeah, I was aware. |
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| Post #18: 9th May 2013 2:14:06 AM | |
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Yes but I assume the role is actively used.
Some others seem to trust you so I will drop it (although I am sure you were well aware of this for the past 30 phases or so). |
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Yes but I assume the role is actively used.
Some others seem to trust you so I will drop it (although I am sure you were well aware of this for the past 30 phases or so). |
Which role do you assume is actively used? Mine or the hypothetical one?
And you mean that I was well aware that you don't trust me? You said before that you didn't trust me, so yeah, I was aware. |
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| Well the healers/hypothetical one. |
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| Well the healers/hypothetical one. |
Yeah. I'd assume it has to actively be used too. I think Hobert's power is the only passively used one (that we know of) in this group, and maybe Brittany's, but I don't remember if she went into detail about how it works. |
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I'm not even going into this discussion.
However ...
I am glad people are talking, however I'm sad that people are bringing up scum theories based on nothing. |
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| Since you exited first I have no further questions, Your Honor. The prosecution rests. |
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I'm not even going into this discussion.
However ...
I am glad people are talking, however I'm sad that people are bringing up scum theories based on nothing. |
I don't believe it is nothing. Others have expressed the same concern, albeit via walkies.
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| Since you exited first I have no further questions, Your Honor. The prosecution rests. |
-,-" But you'd have questions if I hadn't exited first. If the question's "Why didn't you go first?" the answer's "Because I don't want to die." |
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| Since you exited first I have no further questions, Your Honor. The prosecution rests. |
-,-" But you'd have questions if I hadn't exited first. If the question's "Why didn't you go first?" the answer's "Because I don't want to die." |
So people who have exited first do want to die? Its not a matter of ones self-interest but of a matter of taking one for the team and contributing to the risk everyone has to take. If my role was not what it was, I would have exited more than once. And if people believe my role is not important enough that I should exit first, then I will. |
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| Since you exited first I have no further questions, Your Honor. The prosecution rests. |
-,-" But you'd have questions if I hadn't exited first. If the question's "Why didn't you go first?" the answer's "Because I don't want to die." |
So people who have exited first do want to die? Its not a matter of ones self-interest but of a matter of taking one for the team and contributing to the risk everyone has to take. If my role was not what it was, I would have exited more than once. And if people believe my role is not important enough that I should exit first, then I will. |
No, not wanting to die was just my reason for not wanting to go first. What would you have asked if I hadn't gone first, if not the question I gave? |
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| I'm not angry or anything. I just want to know. |
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| Had you not gone first I would have said nothing publicly. You have avoided going first in the past too. It's not a sign of evilness - I don't believe Airlea is evil - but it did cause me to question whether you believed your own interests were more important than the groups interests. |
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I'm not even going into this discussion.
However ...
I am glad people are talking, however I'm sad that people are bringing up scum theories based on nothing. |
I don't believe it is nothing. Others have expressed the same concern, albeit via walkies.
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I am sure people have concerns, however important discussions via walkies are hidden from the rest of us. It's easy to make assumptions and forge mistrusting feelings towards someone who can't defend themselves. |
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| Post #19: 9th May 2013 3:51:18 AM | |
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| Had you not gone first I would have said nothing publicly. You have avoided going first in the past too. It's not a sign of evilness - I don't believe Airlea is evil - but it did cause me to question whether you believed your own interests were more important than the groups interests. |
That's fair. My own interests were why I was asking for someone to continue my quest if I did die. :) |
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| Had you not gone first I would have said nothing publicly. You have avoided going first in the past too. It's not a sign of evilness - I don't believe Airlea is evil - but it did cause me to question whether you believed your own interests were more important than the groups interests. |
That's fair. My own interests were why I was asking for someone to continue my quest if I did die. :) |
You are referring to the amulet? |
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| Had you not gone first I would have said nothing publicly. You have avoided going first in the past too. It's not a sign of evilness - I don't believe Airlea is evil - but it did cause me to question whether you believed your own interests were more important than the groups interests. |
That's fair. My own interests were why I was asking for someone to continue my quest if I did die. :) |
You are referring to the amulet? |
Yes. |
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*whispers* It says "don't forget" if you can't read it. :) |
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| oh man, looks like I missed a lot. What happened to Ajax and Katy? :o |
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| oh man, looks like I missed a lot. What happened to Ajax and Katy? :o |
Welcome back! Katy and Ajax died. :( |
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Oh man :( R.I.P Katy and Ajax.
(and yes Kristoff, I'm back to answer your question - I just got released from the hospital today) |
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Oh man :( R.I.P Katy and Ajax.
(and yes Kristoff, I'm back to answer your question - I just got released from the hospital today) |
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| We're glad you're okay. :) |
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| Post #20: 9th May 2013 3:51:59 AM | |
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| Katy was sacrificed to a challenge. We got a key and two telepoters. You set them up and they create exits. Ajax tested out a teleporter in another room (different from ours) and the Banshee thing got him. Some of us think he knew it was coming. I got sucked into the red room and am poisoned. I'll die at the end of phase 41 unless I kill someone. |
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Yikes, so that means we'll be losing one more person soon :\ fuckkk.
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| Yikes, so that means we'll be losing one more person soon :\ fuckkk. |
Yeah. :( It sucks. |
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| Post #21: 9th May 2013 4:16:53 AM | |
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| Good to hear Tyrese. Hope you have a good recovery too. |
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| Welcome back Tyrese, you've been missed. And I'm very glad you are ok, I was worried about you. |
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| More discouraging news. I checked the room #9238 (which I had thought should be very near here and a parallel room) There is no western exit from that room. It oddly is twice the width of a standard room but has 2 exits south, one on each side. :\ It's also red....very, very, red. The walls are red, lights are red, and the staircase is red. :( |
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| More discouraging news. I checked the room #9238 (which I had thought should be very near here and a parallel room) There is no western exit from that room. It oddly is twice the width of a standard room but has 2 exits south, one on each side. :\ It's also red....very, very, red. The walls are red, lights are red, and the staircase is red. :( |
At least we have some warning. |
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| I'll be fine guys, nothing a little R and R won't fix :) |
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| I was more hoping to see some randoms from Sophias list exiting west, but you are right at least we know about it ahead of time. |
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Here's what it looks like, which seems very strange to me, I guess because of the two south exits like that.
It says there is an exit north on the eastern side, an eastern side south and a western side south.
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| Tyrese it is good to see you again! |
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Here's what it looks like, which seems very strange to me, I guess because of the two south exits like that.
It says there is an exit north on the eastern side, an eastern side south and a western side south.
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Very strange.
Do you think we should avoid this room?
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| That's all I really know about it. There is a staircase, and everything appears red. I think when looking at maps several of us thought it may be a place to head to teleport so I checked it this phase, I'm just passing along what I found out. |
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Here's what it looks like, which seems very strange to me, I guess because of the two south exits like that.
It says there is an exit north on the eastern side, an eastern side south and a western side south.
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Maybe a wall splits the south in half. |
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| Post #22: 9th May 2013 8:47:45 AM | |
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| Probably so, I'm pretty sure it's the first I've run into like that. |
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| Didn't you exit already, Brittany? |
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| When I die the scum are gonna have a holiday in this group because most are too selfish to speak up as they are afraid of being killed. |
So you are the only person keeping this group together then?
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No far from it. How many scum have I found? |
Sorry if this is already brought up. I didn't read past this post.
This isn't mafia. The goal isn't to hunt scum. Our win condition has nothing to do with scum.
Scum can hide all they want. Until they interfere with our goal, they're irrelevant in my eyes. |
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And Maria let's level this out since it was addressed.
I don't think you're scum, I'm just the type to consider all options and I said if you were scum, it would be the most dangerous because you're held in such high esteem. Same situation as Helm. I don't think either of you are scum, I have no reason to, but we can't just let you two be held so high and not question. |
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And Kristoff, did Maria not just exit first and nearly die?
You're hiding behind your role that you should never exit first. You haven't entered a room first even when we've known it's not trapped. |
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| Actually, Kristoff did enter first way back in Phase 5. He ended up in the red room and Carl stole his staff. |
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| Actually, Kristoff did enter first way back in Phase 5. He ended up in the red room and Carl stole his staff. |
Don't remind me :\
And Hobert, I know our goal is not to find scum but is it not useful to be aware of possibilities and it may explain actions of some individuals? This is why I would not lynch you were you to sacrifice your second life to save Pai. But you seem concerned you will be viewed as scum when, ultimately, it would not be an instant death sentence. |
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| Also may I point out you were the one who made me really not trust her Hobert/encouraged me to avoid giving her items etc. |
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| Actually, Kristoff did enter first way back in Phase 5. He ended up in the red room and Carl stole his staff. |
I know. He hit the red room. But that was before he revealed his role if I remember correctly. Either way it's been like 30 phases where he hasn't even stepped up to do so. |
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| Also may I point out you were the one who made me really not trust her Hobert/encouraged me to avoid giving her items etc. |
I know. I am glad we're thinking about it.
But I don't think she is scum, but I don't think people should be given items or trusted so much just because they are extremely active. |
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| Post #23: 9th May 2013 8:53:02 AM | |
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| Actually, Kristoff did enter first way back in Phase 5. He ended up in the red room and Carl stole his staff. |
I know. He hit the red room. But that was before he revealed his role if I remember correctly. Either way it's been like 30 phases where he hasn't even stepped up to do so. |
Why does it matter whether my role is revealed or not?
And agree with your other post. It should also be noted that scum has won the past two games so that is another reason while, despite not being our objective, finding scum is an important side objective. |
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Yeah I get that. I mean I want to find them too, but not at the cost of town.
I would just rather work on the task at hand and then if people try to interfere it makes finding scum easier. But I'm not out looking for them...rather just waiting.
BUT I have been frustrated at the pace we've been going with little to no progress on the actual objectives. We've loaded up with items and lost a lot of people...that's it. |
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| Agreed! I feel that NW room could finally have something but we are slowly gonig away from it. Perhaps the SW will have something |
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| (whats that status of the note with the code-names?) |
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| I think whoever is ahead of you has it. |
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| Post #24: 9th May 2013 5:05:39 PM | |
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| Phase has been extended by request. I wonder what other group is doing. |
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| Should be headed your way, Tyreses. |
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| Phase has been extended by request. I wonder what other group is doing. |
Clearly something important since I can't imagine many of us would have requested an extension. |
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Welcome back, Tyrese. Glad you're okay. :)
And we're backtracking soon? In the past? I think that's a waste of time, tbh... since, they're called "Immortals" I feel like we'll notice them in past or present. But I'm with whatev :o I may even have misread since I was reading quickly. xD |
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| Idk anymore :lol: Whatever is thought to be best! |
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| Kristoff thinks we might have to teleport to future from past in room most north-west in Labyrinth to get into it. That is why he wants to go to past. |
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*Wakes up*
Hey Tyrese, glad you are doing alright buddy, welcome back. |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
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(Hope everything's going okay for you Tyrese!)
Are we pushing Pai Chan yet (she's literally been inactive for a week- that's not being "busy" IMO)? |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
Well we didn't have a choice last time, but I agree. |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
We've only sacrificed the revive book on purpose. The other time we had no choice.
That said we should avoid that kind of situation if we can.
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| Also may I point out you were the one who made me really not trust her Hobert/encouraged me to avoid giving her items etc. |
I know. I am glad we're thinking about it.
But I don't think she is scum, but I don't think people should be given items or trusted so much just because they are extremely active. |
I don't think people are trusted just for the heck of it.
At least I hope not.
I would hope I have earned trust and have not just been handed it haphazardly. |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
Well we didn't have a choice last time, but I agree. |
No I mean like, wasting a book (life of another person) for items.
Like "Operation reviving Helm" few phases back. |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
Well we didn't have a choice last time, but I agree. |
No I mean like, wasting a book (life of another person) for items.
Like "Operation reviving Helm" few phases back. |
Sorry about that.
Seemed a good idea at the time. |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
Well we didn't have a choice last time, but I agree. |
No I mean like, wasting a book (life of another person) for items.
Like "Operation reviving Helm" few phases back. |
Sorry about that.
Seemed a good idea at the time. |
We got useful items out of it. |
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| Also, we should never again sacrifice a person for an item again. |
Well we didn't have a choice last time, but I agree. |
No I mean like, wasting a book (life of another person) for items.
Like "Operation reviving Helm" few phases back. |
Sorry about that.
Seemed a good idea at the time. |
Well we all thought it was a good idea, we hadn't lost a person in like 10 phases, just injuries.
I guess we have learned our lesson now since there are more people dying all around us.
It was a great thing you did for us back then though. |
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| I'm just saying, if we get some more books, lets not trade them in for anything but a life. |
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Agree with you, (as usual ;) ) Balagor |
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So how long until the phase ends?
(Different time zones and such) |
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So how long until the phase ends?
(Different time zones and such) |
6-7 hours. |
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| Post #25: 9th May 2013 8:14:23 PM | |
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| should I pass the paper to Pai or just keep it for now? |
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| I would just keep it for now. Less risk of it being dropped or something randomly and others picking it up. |
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| I think you should just keep it for now. |
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| Did Pai have anything else then the Paper? |
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Apologies for the lack of discussion.
(Been reading this on my phone and it's hard to get much discussion going)
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| I think Pai has walkie talkie? |
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| Post #26: 9th May 2013 10:34:18 PM | |
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| I think Pai has walkie talkie? |
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If anyone wants to discuss anything, now would be pretty good time.
Like maps.
Strategies.
Thoughts or opinions.
We got 4 hours to kill.
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It would make sense that in order to get to the Guardian rooms we will have to go to the past and then the future, but I don't think so.
If there is no way into the Guardian rooms but through parallel, we would have to send only Maria in because we'd be stuck there for 5 phases otherwise and we'd all die. Doesn't seem likely he would risk a huge group of people dying and the game ending for that reason.
If that is the case though, then there must be an outer ring of rooms with the guardians in them. |
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On another note, since we are dwindling so fast, we should really try to find the other group!
AND STATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Hobert bring good point about room. If door is sealed we will have to wait 5 turns to travel back to past. By that time we will all be killed. |
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| I think maybe it will open once we unlock the guardian? |
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Or perhaps it is impossible to access that room from past, perhaps we must open it somewhere here first.
Lot of possibilities, I guess we wont know until we explore area in past. |
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| I think maybe it will open once we unlock the guardian? |
This is what I expected also.
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| The staff should make that problem easier but at the same time we do have the crystal that would make instant return possible. |
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| I've been saying it but I want to focus our attention on finding the sword and the other group somehow. We have a few good leads right now on guardians, this weird door, the note with the stairs or the balcony. I think its time to focus on the sword. We cant get the guardians without it. |
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| Plus the other group has the staff. |
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| Post #27: 9th May 2013 11:07:56 PM | |
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| Why can't we get the guardians without the sword? |
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| I thought we needed the sword to unlock them? |
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The group readied themselves. It was time to move on.
Phase 40 will end in about an hour's time. Anybody who has not yet posted an exit action may do so. No other actions can be used, and no existing exit actions can be changed. |
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| Post #28: 9th May 2013 11:32:47 PM | |
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| I think maybe it will open once we unlock the guardian? |
This is what I expected also.
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I thought of the room having a door that can only open from the inside. |
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| The sword's for fighting off shades and killing Willis. I think that's it. |
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| The sword's for fighting off shades and killing Willis. I think that's it. |
Same, thought I had totally missed something if we needed it for the Guardians. I have an idea that there may be puzzles of sorts that may free them, but it's just a hunch based on room descriptions. |
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| Post #29: 9th May 2013 11:56:26 PM | |
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| Well then clearly I was confused! Good to know. |
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| Well then clearly I was confused! Good to know. |
No worries, I wasn't sure enough to even disagree. |
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