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| Post #16: 3rd May 2013 3:57:35 AM | |
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Alright
Maybe we should do some sort of a vote here how we should split up the guns.
I "vote" for these people to have them.
Reasons: Active and nonthreatening or no items.
Helm
Sophia
Maria
Airlea
Dennis
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I would suggest a private vote with a piece of notebook paper- but it's impractical since we all have such different schedules. |
It also takes a long of time, look at the notebook paper.
Three phases and still hasn't gone to all the people. |
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That's what he meant by different schedules. :P |
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Alright
Maybe we should do some sort of a vote here how we should split up the guns.
I "vote" for these people to have them.
Reasons: Active and nonthreatening or no items.
Helm
Sophia
Maria
Airlea
Dennis
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Airlea's bow and arrows are pretty threatening as far as items go.
But items can be easily shifted. |
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Alright
Maybe we should do some sort of a vote here how we should split up the guns.
I "vote" for these people to have them.
Reasons: Active and nonthreatening or no items.
Helm
Sophia
Maria
Dennis
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Airlea's bow and arrows are pretty threatening as far as items go.
But items can be easily shifted. |
Ahh, I assumed it was only good for shooting through entrances or something like that.
Alright Airlea, sorry girl :)
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Maria
Dennis
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Ahh, I assumed it was only good for shooting through entrances or something like that.
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It is, but that's fine if Helm prefers it this way instead.
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Alright
Maybe we should do some sort of a vote here how we should split up the guns.
I "vote" for these people to have them.
Reasons: Active and nonthreatening or no items.
Helm
Sophia
Maria
Dennis
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Airlea's bow and arrows are pretty threatening as far as items go.
But items can be easily shifted. |
Ahh, I assumed it was only good for shooting through entrances or something like that.
Alright Airlea, sorry girl :)
Helm
Sophia
Maria
Dennis
Tyrese |
Well it doesn't work in the same roon but someone could shoot at the group from a distance with them.
Not that Airlea will I was just disputing the phase non-threatening items.
Not saying anything ill of Airlea at all. |
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Hopefully we can continue to deal with the guns the way we have.
But I have a feeling that in the next few hours someone might start an argument over something.
*Yawns* >.<
Getting tired |
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This probably seems evident by now, but I don't feel comfortable with Tyrese having a gun. |
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Not pressing anything.
As I said items can be and should be shifted,
if only for the single item rule. |
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I hope everyone speaks up if they have a strong opinion so we can find a solution that pleases everyone |
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This probably seems evident by now, but I don't feel comfortable with Tyrese having a gun. |
same goes for Dennis, I'd rather he not have any weapons. I don't want him to come on one drunk night and think it be "funny" to post an action of using his weapon on me. |
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This probably seems evident by now, but I don't feel comfortable with Tyrese having a gun. |
Do you think these guns work underwater? |
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This probably seems evident by now, but I don't feel comfortable with Tyrese having a gun. |
Why not? |
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We could also split the shotgun and the shells if people feel uncomfortable? |
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I hope everyone speaks up if they have a strong opinion so we can find a solution that pleases everyone |
I'm sure many of us have differnet opinions of who we would trust with a gun. :\ |
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Yeah, let's not give the person that strongly called to get a gun to get one. It's fishy, really. |
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This probably seems evident by now, but I don't feel comfortable with Tyrese having a gun. |
Do you think these guns work underwater? |
Guns usually don't work underwater. |
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This probably seems evident by now, but I don't feel comfortable with Tyrese having a gun. |
Do you think these guns work underwater? |
Guns usually don't work underwater. |
Might be a bad fit for Tyrese then. |
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People, you need to speak up.
We can't split the guns unless we get some idea of where to put them.
Come on now, this is a democracy. |
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I'm not okay with anyone with the time gem having one, no matter who it is, I don't want anyone running off with one of these. |
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If he doesn't feel comfortable with me having one, that's only fair and I won't take one. As long as he doesn't have one. |
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To be quite honest, I would also like for Katy not to get one either. |
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Airlea
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| Post #17: 3rd May 2013 4:02:41 AM | |
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If he doesn't feel comfortable with me having one, that's only fair and I won't take one. As long as he doesn't have one. |
I would like to know why you feel like I shouldn't have one, just curious. You did post about me first. |
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Well, you know my reasoning behind it. From my psychology studies, a person will exhibit their greed and then justify it. Which you did when we first walked in. You saw the opportunity to get a gun and jumped right on the "Give it to Tyrese Bandwagon." |
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I'm not okay with anyone with the time gem having one, no matter who it is, I don't want anyone running off with one of these. |
Agree |
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Since Tyrese and Dennis don't want each other to have guns, let's leave them off of the "potential gun holder" list. |
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Alright lets start with the pistol shall we?
Take one gun at a time. |
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I'd like to point out that no one grabbed these in secret/journal. There was time to do so and that counts for something, if not much. |
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Since Tyrese and Dennis don't want each other to have guns, let's leave them off of the "potential gun holder" list. |
Alright, I agree |
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People, you need to speak up.
We can't split the guns unless we get some idea of where to put them.
Come on now, this is a democracy. |
There are only a few people I would trust, and unfortunately those people are mostly already holding items. Anyone we know nothing about as far as role etc. (Not asking anyone to claim!) I am hesitant just handing a gun. |
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Does anyone have a current copy of the item distribution list? |
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I'm not okay with anyone with the time gem having one, no matter who it is, I don't want anyone running off with one of these. |
That's fair. |
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Well, you know my reasoning behind it. From my psychology studies, a person will exhibit their greed and then justify it. Which you did when we first walked in. You saw the opportunity to get a gun and jumped right on the "Give it to Tyrese Bandwagon." |
Fair enough, but I simply *would* have liked one in the event somebody comes at me with the intent to harm down the road. Say someone has a knife, and wants to use it on me, it may not kill one of you, but it will kill me and I just would have liked it for protection if something like that ever occurred, and quite honestly, I'm a little on edge after Dennis' "joke" last phase. I'm not going to argue for it, because it's not something I want to have out of "greed" like your "psychological analysis" suggests, I said I wouldn't mind having it, as I am sure anyone else would have. If I wanted it out of greed I would have claimed it before Sophia had the chance. |
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Airlea
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| Post #18: 3rd May 2013 4:10:24 AM | |
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Same about Dennis.
But I also don't get why someone sacrifices their life for something they are deemed trustworthy. |
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If he doesn't feel comfortable with me having one, that's only fair and I won't take one. As long as he doesn't have one. |
I would like to know why you feel like I shouldn't have one, just curious. You did post about me first. |
After my post about whose roles I knew or not. People began discussing them, but you got pretty defensive like someone was calling you out:
"I've already used my ability, and I've been open about anything and everything I hear from my voices pertaining to the group. If that still leaves some doubt for people about my alignment, well, then I guess there's not much I can do about it."
This was in response to me saying that I was only talking about roles, not alignments. I also have a hard time buying that your dead wife is speaking to you. The messages seem pretty inconsistent. If it's different voices, you seem to be the only one still getting them.
Obviously nothing here is grounded in solid proof, otherwise I would've been a lot more vocal. It is fair for you to defend yourself.
When it comes to Katy- I have a hard time believing she survived that sun room trap with just a minor injury. |
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I'm not okay with anyone with the time gem having one, no matter who it is, I don't want anyone running off with one of these. |
That's fair. |
For the record this also casts doubts on Maria having one as well. No offense, Maria. |
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Does anyone have a current copy of the item distribution list? |
From before I died. Things have obviously changed:
Urk - Chalk "250 marks and it breaks."
Stonehard Lee group = Staff
Orb
Peter - medikit
Kristoff - scalpel (knife)
General - walkie talkie
Katy - notebook
(4 pages gone 1 Kristoff, 1 Hobert, 2 Airlea)
Sophia - Key - used phase 19
Book that can bring someone back to life - used phase 31
Airlea - bow and 5 arrows
tears of Medusa
Hobert - Explosive
Pai Chan - Book that can bring someone back to life
Walkie Talkie
Brittany - key - used phase 25
Balagor - rope
Ajax - Cursed Coin
Queen - chalk
Tyrese - mermaid scale
Maria - scroll
key
tarvel crystal |
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Does anyone have a current copy of the item distribution list? |
From before I died. Things have obviously changed:
Urk - Chalk "250 marks and it breaks."
Stonehard Lee group = Staff
Orb
Peter - medikit
Kristoff - scalpel (knife)
General - walkie talkie
Katy - notebook
(4 pages gone 1 Kristoff, 1 Hobert, 2 Airlea)
Sophia - Key - used phase 19
Book that can bring someone back to life - used phase 31
Airlea - bow and 5 arrows
tears of Medusa
Hobert - Explosive
Pai Chan - Book that can bring someone back to life
Walkie Talkie
Brittany - key - used phase 25
Balagor - rope
Ajax - Cursed Coin
Queen - chalk
Tyrese - mermaid scale
Maria - scroll
key
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well aren't roles or alignment the same thing? (Half of your guys terminology I have no idea about) |
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Everyone okay with Helm holding the pistol? |
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Andrael now has the tears and Maria passed out her items as well. |
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Everyone okay with Helm holding the pistol? |
Doesn't Helm have the travel crystal? |
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People, you need to speak up.
We can't split the guns unless we get some idea of where to put them.
Come on now, this is a democracy. |
There are only a few people I would trust, and unfortunately those people are mostly already holding items. Anyone we know nothing about as far as role etc. (Not asking anyone to claim!) I am hesitant just handing a gun. |
This!!
At this point, screw even item holding!! People who have come forward and shown their alignment and role clearly should get items like these regardless of what items are already held!!
Airlea
Sophia
Kristoff
Brittany
Ajax
Maria
Tyrese
Dennis
and myself are the ones who have come out with role or alignment.
Sophia is only know to Kristoff as far as I'm concerned, but I don't care to keep up the even item distribution.
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well aren't roles or alignment the same thing? (Half of your guys terminology I have no idea about) |
It was clarified if I was talking about role or ability. This is all I c&pd in my confessional thingy, but after being asked if I meant ability or alignment- I said just role/ability:
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I'm just talking about role/ability. |
I've already used my ability, and I've been open about anything and everything I hear from my voices pertaining to the group. If that still leaves some doubt for people about my alignment, well, then I guess there's not much I can do about it. |
Yeah I wasn't trying to call anyone out Tyrese, sorry if it came across that way. With my sporadic schedule and me missing a lot while flying, I feel like I often just need to clarify things for my notes. |
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I'm not okay with anyone with the time gem having one, no matter who it is, I don't want anyone running off with one of these. |
That's fair. |
For the record this also casts doubts on Maria having one as well. No offense, Maria. |
:) It's fine. |
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People, you need to speak up.
We can't split the guns unless we get some idea of where to put them.
Come on now, this is a democracy. |
There are only a few people I would trust, and unfortunately those people are mostly already holding items. Anyone we know nothing about as far as role etc. (Not asking anyone to claim!) I am hesitant just handing a gun. |
This!!
At this point, screw even item holding!! People who have come forward and shown their alignment and role clearly should get items like these regardless of what items are already held!!
Airlea
Sophia
Kristoff
Brittany
Ajax
Maria
Tyrese
Dennis
and myself are the ones who have come out with role or alignment.
Sophia is only know to Kristoff as far as I'm concerned, but I don't care to keep up the even item distribution.
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People, you need to speak up.
We can't split the guns unless we get some idea of where to put them.
Come on now, this is a democracy. |
There are only a few people I would trust, and unfortunately those people are mostly already holding items. Anyone we know nothing about as far as role etc. (Not asking anyone to claim!) I am hesitant just handing a gun. |
This!!
At this point, screw even item holding!! People who have come forward and shown their alignment and role clearly should get items like these regardless of what items are already held!!
Airlea
Sophia
Kristoff
Brittany
Ajax
Maria
Tyrese
Dennis
and myself are the ones who have come out with role or alignment.
Sophia is only know to Kristoff as far as I'm concerned, but I don't care to keep up the even item distribution.
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As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with Hobert here in that I would rather someone who is more "out" with their role have items. Although I don't think that Sophia and Tyrese have exactly come out with their exact role, but I could be mistaken. |
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Urk - Chalk "250 marks and it breaks."
Stonehard Lee group = Staff
Orb
Peter - medikit
Kristoff - scalpel (knife)
General - walkie talkie
Katy - notebook
(4 pages gone 1 Kristoff, 1 Hobert, 2 Airlea)
Sophia - Key - used phase 19
Book that can bring someone back to life - used phase 31
Airlea - bow and 5 arrows
tears of Medusa
Hobert - Explosive
Pai Chan - Book that can bring someone back to life
Walkie Talkie
Brittany - key - used phase 25
Key
Balagor - rope
Ajax - Cursed Coin
Queen - chalk
Tyrese - mermaid scale
Helm - time travel crystal
Maria - scroll |
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Everyone okay with Helm holding the pistol? |
No. If Helm is scum, she's the most dangerous.
Everyone trusts her, she hasn't even had to claim anything...
It just doesn't sit well with me. |
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People, you need to speak up.
We can't split the guns unless we get some idea of where to put them.
Come on now, this is a democracy. |
There are only a few people I would trust, and unfortunately those people are mostly already holding items. Anyone we know nothing about as far as role etc. (Not asking anyone to claim!) I am hesitant just handing a gun. |
This!!
At this point, screw even item holding!! People who have come forward and shown their alignment and role clearly should get items like these regardless of what items are already held!!
Airlea
Sophia
Kristoff
Brittany
Ajax
Maria
Tyrese
Dennis
and myself are the ones who have come out with role or alignment.
Sophia is only know to Kristoff as far as I'm concerned, but I don't care to keep up the even item distribution.
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As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with Hobert here in that I would rather someone who is more "out" with their role have items. Although I don't think that Sophia and Tyrese have exactly come out with their exact role, but I could be mistaken. |
That's just who came out with them.
I don't trust that whole list as some of those roles could swing either way.
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Airlea
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| Post #19: 3rd May 2013 4:16:02 AM | |
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Also, and again forgive me because I do miss a lot when I fly up/die, but Hobert can you explain how exactly you were proven to be good-aligned? |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
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I have not publicly claimed, no. |
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And that's perfectly okay! |
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Okay, I'm going to try to start making gun lists.
People who don't get guns - reason for not getting gun
Tyrese - conflict w/ Dennis
Dennis - conflict w/ Tyrese, mermaid scale
Helm - time travel crystal
Maria - time travel power
We could also add Airlea for having the bow and arrows, and Hobert for already having the explosive. |
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Urk - Chalk "250 marks and it breaks."
Stonehard Lee group = Staff
Orb
Peter - medikit
Kristoff - scalpel (knife)
General - walkie talkie
Katy - notebook
(4 pages gone 1 Kristoff, 1 Hobert, 2 Airlea)
Sophia - Key - used phase 19
Book that can bring someone back to life - used phase 31
Book - used Phase 34
Airlea - bow and 5 arrows
tears of Medusa
Hobert - Explosive
Pai Chan - Walkie Talkie
Brittany - key - used phase 25
Key
Balagor - rope
Ajax - Cursed Coin
Queen - chalk
Tyrese - mermaid scale
Helm - time travel crystal
Maria - scroll |
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fixed it. I missed the bit about the books. |
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Also, and again forgive me because I do miss a lot when I fly up/die, but Hobert can you explain how exactly you were proven to be good-aligned? |
Jesus...you've asked this at least 2 other times and I've answered.
Kristoff and I used a loophole that Willis then closed down. SO...unfortunately we kind of cheated, but I'm good aligned. |
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Andrael has the tears as well. |
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I do not have a conflict with the mermaid scale :( |
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The point is.
No one can be fully trusted with a gun unless everyone has one.
If someone shoots someone, I'll rope that person, kristoff uses is knife or we all Lynch vote.
In the end, if a person has to many items, it might become a problem. |
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Also, and again forgive me because I do miss a lot when I fly up/die, but Hobert can you explain how exactly you were proven to be good-aligned? |
Urk - Chalk "250 marks and it breaks."
Stonehard Lee group = Staff
Orb
Peter - medikit
Kristoff - scalpel (knife)
General - walkie talkie
Katy - notebook
(4 pages gone 1 Kristoff, 1 Hobert, 2 Airlea)
Sophia - Key - used phase 19
Book that can bring someone back to life - used phase 31
Book - used Phase 34
Airlea - bow and 5 arrows
Andrael - Tears of Medusa
Hobert - Explosive
Pai Chan - Walkie Talkie
Brittany - key - used phase 25
Key
Balagor - rope
Ajax - Cursed Coin
Queen - chalk
Tyrese - mermaid scale
Helm - time travel crystal
Maria - scroll |
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I have a conflict with the mermaid scale. |
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Also, and again forgive me because I do miss a lot when I fly up/die, but Hobert can you explain how exactly you were proven to be good-aligned? |
Jesus...you've asked this at least 2 other times and I've answered.
Kristoff and I used a loophole that Willis then closed down. SO...unfortunately we kind of cheated, but I'm good aligned. |
1. Was this before or after you died?
(2. Alignments have changed in past Labryinth games I'm pretty sure) |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
I disagree.
The more you distribute them to people who we don't even know their role or alignment, the more chance the guns land in bad hands. |
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Airlea
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| Post #20: 3rd May 2013 4:20:07 AM | |
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Also, and again forgive me because I do miss a lot when I fly up/die, but Hobert can you explain how exactly you were proven to be good-aligned? |
Jesus...you've asked this at least 2 other times and I've answered.
Kristoff and I used a loophole that Willis then closed down. SO...unfortunately we kind of cheated, but I'm good aligned. |
1. Was this before or after you died?
(2. Alignments have changed in past Labryinth games I'm pretty sure) |
Before, but technically I never died. |
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Also, and again forgive me because I do miss a lot when I fly up/die, but Hobert can you explain how exactly you were proven to be good-aligned? |
Jesus...you've asked this at least 2 other times and I've answered.
Kristoff and I used a loophole that Willis then closed down. SO...unfortunately we kind of cheated, but I'm good aligned. |
1. Was this before or after you died?
(2. Alignments have changed in past Labryinth games I'm pretty sure) |
Before he died. This was during the "mystery person talks over walkies" stage. |
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For the record, in case people were wondering, I don't want a gun. I want to make sure they're safe though. |
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It seems like if your role is "Zombie", we shouldn't rule out an alignment change when you come back. |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
I disagree.
The more you distribute them to people who we don't even know their role or alignment, the more chance the guns land in bad hands. |
And what if you don't have any role and are good aligned? |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
I disagree.
The more you distribute them to people who we don't even know their role or alignment, the more chance the guns land in bad hands. |
And what if you don't have any role and are good aligned? |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
I disagree.
The more you distribute them to people who we don't even know their role or alignment, the more chance the guns land in bad hands. |
And what if you don't have any role and are good aligned? |
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People who don't get guns - reason for not getting gun
Tyrese - conflict w/ Dennis, has mermaid scale
Dennis - conflict w/ Tyrese
Helm - time travel crystal
Maria - time travel power |
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Kristoff is back, hey Kristoff |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
I disagree.
The more you distribute them to people who we don't even know their role or alignment, the more chance the guns land in bad hands. |
Agreeing with Hobert, but I kind of get the feeling where this is going already anyway. *smh* |
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Everyone okay with Helm holding the pistol? |
No. If Helm is scum, she's the most dangerous.
Everyone trusts her, she hasn't even had to claim anything...
It just doesn't sit well with me. |
I don't mean to earn trust unworthily.
If you want I will reveal.
I've mostly been keeping mum for the sake of the anonymous doctor situation.
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Didn't you see that one movie, Dennis? Warm Bodies? Zombies are good.
HA! PSA. This is a joke. |
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we all technically have the ability to time travel... What's to stop someone with a gun from posting in private that they are time travelling instead of exiting with the group? |
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I agree with Tyrese there.
Also this is going much better than the chest room. |
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It seems like if your role is "Zombie", we shouldn't rule out an alignment change when you come back. |
This is what I don't get. You can loot me before I come back so...
And like you said, roles have changed. Based on your philosophy, I should assume your alignment has changed after coming back.
It's simply a name. If you let a name determine my alignment for you, you're a joke. |
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| Post #21: 3rd May 2013 4:29:03 AM | |
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Everyone okay with Helm holding the pistol? |
No. If Helm is scum, she's the most dangerous.
Everyone trusts her, she hasn't even had to claim anything...
It just doesn't sit well with me. |
I don't mean to earn trust unworthily.
If you want I will reveal.
I've mostly been keeping mum for the sake of the anonymous doctor situation.
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Don't reveal. It's okay. |
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we all technically have the ability to time travel... What's to stop someone with a gun from posting in private that they are time travelling instead of exiting with the group? |
That's a very good point. |
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we all technically have the ability to time travel... What's to stop someone with a gun from posting in private that they are time travelling instead of exiting with the group? |
The only difference there is that the gem and Maria can time travel mid phase. So theoretically they can pull the trigger and run away. |
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The powerful items should not be withing certain people of this group.
We are more safe if they are distributed evenly.
Someone should not hols a gun and a knife.
This isn't even for discussion.
Even if your role is a healer, you can still be a scum. |
I disagree.
The more you distribute them to people who we don't even know their role or alignment, the more chance the guns land in bad hands. |
Agreeing with Hobert, but I kind of get the feeling where this is going already anyway. *smh* |
And that's not what I'm meaning to do.
Anyone who claims is obviously just item hungry. It just seems safer to me. |
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Maybe someone could give their item to one of the persons who has a time travel crystal so they could not use a "combo" with a gun.
In change for one of the guns? |
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I kind of don't want Brittany to have one either. Nothing against her, just, her little "act" of being the dumb blonde and then revealing she's well versed in psychology... worries me. Could all be another act, and she could just be using her knowledge to pull a fast one on us. |
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The problem I see with giving only roled people weapons like this is if someone goes on the rampage they have a gun.
They have a role too mind you.
They point their gun at Kristoff and kill him,
Kristoff had a gun too.
Now they've killed the trap seeker and they'll likely grab his gun and do the same to someone else integral to the team.
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Maybe someone could give their item to one of the persons who has a time travel crystal so they could not use a "combo" with a gun.
In change for one of the guns? |
This would only assume you want Helm to have a gun. |
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Brittany, did you pass on the notebook paper? |
He mentioned not having the walkie earlier and she posted that she passed the paper, but he says he doesn't have it. It appears someone may have claimed them when he died. |
Alright, so it seems that someone looted Dennis when he died and has not come forward.
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If Dennis left the note behind it might be wise we discuss a new codeword/colour for everyone
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The problem I see with giving only roled people weapons like this is if someone goes on the rampage they have a gun.
They have a role too mind you.
They point their gun at Kristoff and kill him,
Kristoff had a gun too.
Now they've killed the trap seeker and they'll likely grab his gun and do the same to someone else integral to the team.
etc. |
Better than giving it to someone we don't know what they do. |
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can we maybe just destroy the guns or something? or waste all the ammo? I have a feeling things would be much easier that way. These guns are just going to cause problems, and if we ever do run into someone the group wants to kill we have the group lynch vote to do so so it's not like we need these guns. Maybe use up all the ammo shooting in the air? |
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Maybe someone could give their item to one of the persons who has a time travel crystal so they could not use a "combo" with a gun.
In change for one of the guns? |
This would only assume you want Helm to have a gun. |
Or Maria, yes.
Helm is on my trust list ever since she risked herself to give us the items before.
I trust her holding a gun. |
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Agreeing with Hobert, but I kind of get the feeling where this is going already anyway. *smh* |
And that's not what I'm meaning to do.
Anyone who claims is obviously just item hungry. It just seems safer to me. |
Wasn't referring to claiming, but we do need to avoid that. Had I been able to keep quiet about mine longer, I would have as well.
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The problem I see with giving only roled people weapons like this is if someone goes on the rampage they have a gun.
They have a role too mind you.
They point their gun at Kristoff and kill him,
Kristoff had a gun too.
Now they've killed the trap seeker and they'll likely grab his gun and do the same to someone else integral to the team.
etc. |
Better than giving it to someone we don't know what they do. |
Maybe you don't realise Hobert, but everyone can lie about their role ... |
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can we maybe just destroy the guns or something? or waste all the ammo? I have a feeling things would be much easier that way. These guns are just going to cause problems, and if we ever do run into someone the group wants to kill we have the group lynch vote to do so so it's not like we need these guns. Maybe use up all the ammo shooting in the air? |
We will need weapons for more than just people. We are preparing for a war and we need to be armed. |
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This needs to be brought up again: Did anyone get the reward from last phase? |
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Maybe someone could give their item to one of the persons who has a time travel crystal so they could not use a "combo" with a gun.
In change for one of the guns? |
This would only assume you want Helm to have a gun. |
Or Maria, yes.
Helm is on my trust list ever since she risked herself to give us the items before.
I trust her holding a gun. |
Nothing personal against Helm, but I still feel we know very little about her as far as role or alignment. I don't want her to claim now for the sake of carrying a gun, but I think we need to be very cautious where they go.
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This needs to be brought up again: Did anyone get the reward from last phase? |
Just checked again, I have nothing. |
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The problem I see with giving only roled people weapons like this is if someone goes on the rampage they have a gun.
They have a role too mind you.
They point their gun at Kristoff and kill him,
Kristoff had a gun too.
Now they've killed the trap seeker and they'll likely grab his gun and do the same to someone else integral to the team.
etc. |
Better than giving it to someone we don't know what they do. |
Knowing what someone does doesn't automatically tell us what they will do. |
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My point, Hobert, is not to accuse you of being scum, but simply to say that you cannot claim to be "confirmed good-aligned". |
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just give Dennis and Tyrese the guns.
They can just shoot each other and get it over with :D |
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| Post #22: 3rd May 2013 4:30:29 AM | |
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Yeah I don't want to claim just for the gun so I'll keep mum on that for now. |
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Just to clarify: I have suspicions about Tyrese. I wouldn't shoot anyone without any proof. Your humor isn't lost on me though, Balagor.
Tyrese and I could have an air vs. water duel. |
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I want to say that we could just leave the guns in this room and move on, but I don't think we would do that. Even if Sophia dropped the guns and the ammo, I'm sure someone would pick them up and bring them along with us. |
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I want to say that we could just leave the guns in this room and move on, but I don't think we would do that. Even if Sophia dropped the guns and the ammo, I'm sure someone would pick them up and bring them along with us. |
And like Andrael said, we're going to war. |
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| Post #23: 3rd May 2013 4:37:23 AM | |
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I want to say that we could just leave the guns in this room and move on, but I don't think we would do that. Even if Sophia dropped the guns and the ammo, I'm sure someone would pick them up and bring them along with us. |
This
I rather we all know who has the gun than leave it hoping no one snatches it from under our nose.
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I know I'm good, and I can't just drop these to potentially let someone evil pick them up. I also totally hate the decision I need to make with the distribution of these. We may not come to an answer this phase so I do want people to be prepared for that possibility. |
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Well I guess Sophia will just keep them all if we don't reach a decision. |
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
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I know I'm good, and I can't just drop these to potentially let someone evil pick them up. I also totally hate the decision I need to make with the distribution of these. We may not come to an answer this phase so I do want people to be prepared for that possibility. |
I agree. |
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How are the maps coming along? |
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What about Kristoff, Balagor and Sophia? They are all very active but at different times of the day which may be beneficial. |
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| Post #24: 3rd May 2013 4:43:33 AM | |
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
Kristoff has a knife, I don't think people want him to have two deadly weapons. :/ |
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
I disagree with Kristoff having one because he just becomes too big of a target.
It isn't about trust when it comes to him we'd just be really screwed if someone killed him to get his gun. |
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
No objections from me. I'm also fine with Sophia staying the gun guardian for now if we can't decide on who to give the guns to. |
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Helm, Balagor, and Airlea also have points that I agree with. |
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What about Peter?
Forgot about him.
He seems to handle the medical kit pretty well. |
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I guess I don't have a problem with Balagor getting one, but at one point I did think he was scummy/iffy but I never wrote down why. I've quite enjoyed him this phase.
I would be very fine with Sophia/Arimnestos/Helm. |
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What about Kristoff, Balagor and Sophia? They are all very active but at different times of the day which may be beneficial. |
I don't think people would be comfortable with Me holding a rope and a gun though unless I roleclaim and give away the rope.
I'll do whatever the people think is best, but then I will of course give someone else the rope. |
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
I disagree with Kristoff having one because he just becomes too big of a target.
It isn't about trust when it comes to him we'd just be really screwed if someone killed him to get his gun. |
Out of curiosity, which 3 people do you suggest?
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I would say only roleclaim if you think it's necessary. |
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What about Kristoff, Balagor and Sophia? They are all very active but at different times of the day which may be beneficial. |
I don't think people would be comfortable with Me holding a rope and a gun though unless I roleclaim and give away the rope.
I'll do whatever the people think is best, but then I will of course give someone else the rope. |
Don't claim, wasn't saying that. |
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Perhaps if one were to put the gun on the floor and spin it and give it to whoever it points to.
We could make a game of it! |
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| Post #25: 3rd May 2013 4:47:55 AM | |
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Perhaps if one were to put the gun on the floor and spin it and give it to whoever it points to.
We could make a game of it! |
Playing "spin the gun" sounds kind of scary. Does anyone have a bottle? |
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What about Ajax, Arimnestos, Sophia? |
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Perhaps if one were to put the gun on the floor and spin it and give it to whoever it points to.
We could make a game of it! |
Playing "spin the gun" sounds kind of scary. Does anyone have a bottle? |
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What about Ajax, Arimnestos, Sophia? |
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Perhaps if one were to put the gun on the floor and spin it and give it to whoever it points to.
We could make a game of it! |
Playing "spin the gun" sounds kind of scary. Does anyone have a bottle? |
Can the tears jar spin? |
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I'm kidding. We shouldn't spin the tears. |
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I guess I don't have a problem with Balagor getting one, but at one point I did think he was scummy/iffy but I never wrote down why. I've quite enjoyed him this phase.
I would be very fine with Sophia/Arimnestos/Helm. |
Helm was on the list to not hold one.
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Why doesn't Sophia keep one, give one to Peter, and the other to Ajax? |
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When did Brit pass the note? Because last round that would have counted as a communication device.
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I'm not okay with anyone with the time gem having one, no matter who it is, I don't want anyone running off with one of these. |
By the same logic Maria should not have one too.
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I have not publicly claimed, no. |
I trust you for the record.
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
I disagree with Kristoff having one because he just becomes too big of a target.
It isn't about trust when it comes to him we'd just be really screwed if someone killed him to get his gun. |
I worry about this too so would pull myself out. |
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Also the ammo and shotgun should definitely be seperated. |
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I would be completely fine with Kristoff and Pai having one. I don't know if anyone disagrees with this. |
I disagree with Kristoff having one because he just becomes too big of a target.
It isn't about trust when it comes to him we'd just be really screwed if someone killed him to get his gun. |
Out of curiosity, which 3 people do you suggest?
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Well if you weren't holding your iconic bow I'd let you have one but, it would be unfitting to switch that up.
The General has a pretty level head I think he'd be pretty decent.
Ajax has a role but it's not one someone would kill him for.
And uh...
Sophia because she's kind enough to pass up two of the other guns in the first place. |
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| Post #26: 3rd May 2013 4:54:21 AM | |
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What about Ajax, Arimnestos, Sophia? |
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Do you think a gun would work on the thing chasing Ajax? Or on Cerberus? |
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It could. That's good enough reason for me. |
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Arimnestos/Sophia and Helm/Britt (shotgun/Ammo) I wouldn't mind. |
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(ignore that, writing while you were) |
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Also I would like to apologise for last phase, I was clearly wrong. |
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Tyrese said he didn't want Brittany to have one, so I just took her out of contention. |
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Tyrese said he didn't want Brittany to have one, so I just took her out of contention. |
Oh ok. Balagor could hold one of the ammo/weapon thing? |
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Arimnestos/Sophia and Helm/Britt (shotgun/Ammo) I wouldn't mind. |
I'm confused by the syntax. You don't want both Arimn and Sophia to have one, or both Helm and Britt to have one? |
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I don't mind just holding the ammo if you are afraid of runners.
I assume this ammo doesn't work without the gun.
But the gun and ammo should be both on active players in case of dire need. |
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I don't mind just holding the ammo if you are afraid of runners.
I assume this ammo doesn't work without the gun.
But the gun and ammo should be both on active players in case of dire need. |
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He did? I missed it I guess. I just saw his reply to what I said - speaking of which; well spoken. |
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So maybe:
Ari: 1 shot definte kill
Spphia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
???: Shotgun |
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I don't mind just holding the ammo if you are afraid of runners.
I assume this ammo doesn't work without the gun.
But the gun and ammo should be both on active players in case of dire need. |
I don't think thats need given we have a supply of other weapons. |
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So maybe:
Ari: 1 shot definte kill
Spphia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
???: Shotgun |
Are you cool with Ajax getting the shotgun? |
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Also Airlea/Maria I hope you can keep track of who has talked and in what order. We should know who has the "prize" if there even is one. |
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So maybe:
Ari: 1 shot definte kill
Spphia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
???: Shotgun |
Are you cool with Ajax getting the shotgun? |
Yup sounds good to me. I assume he holds nothing else which could be bad for us?
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| Post #27: 3rd May 2013 4:59:02 AM | |
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I don't mind just holding the ammo if you are afraid of runners.
I assume this ammo doesn't work without the gun.
But the gun and ammo should be both on active players in case of dire need. |
I don't think thats need given we have a supply of other weapons. |
Well I did say Dire Need.
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(Also agree, this was handled soooo much better than the box room) |
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I don't think anyone has the prize because I think it would have gone to the 17th person to speak, and not everybody spoke, some people didn't even post so I think we missed out on it. |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
Yup, looks good to me. Only request would be that if the shotgun is passed to Helm that she pass the crystal off first, but I think based on our earlier convo about it that is kind of a given.
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| Post #28: 3rd May 2013 5:02:09 AM | |
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Also Airlea/Maria I hope you can keep track of who has talked and in what order. We should know who has the "prize" if there even is one. |
From last phase? I think Airlea and Katy were the last ones to post in the thread. If my idea about saying "last" was what gets the prize, then I think Helm was the one who said the word first.
But like I said back in the turret room, I'd trust that whoever got the prize would come forward and admit it. |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
Yup, looks good to me. Only request would be that if the shotgun is passed to Helm that she pass the crystal off first, but I think based on our earlier convo about it that is kind of a given.
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Hmmm true. |
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I don't know Arimnestos that much though.
He doesn't talk very much.
Has he roleclaimed?
Just throwing it out there otherwise I'm all good :) |
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| Post #29: 3rd May 2013 5:09:43 AM | |
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I don't know Arimnestos that much though.
He doesn't talk very much.
Has he roleclaimed?
Just throwing it out there otherwise I'm all good :) |
He was the first person too I believe. |
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Arimnestos has the ability to run through two rooms at a time. |
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Btw, what do you guys thnk of the "Queens Amulet"? |
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Alright people, i'm kinda snoozy.
Good thing we sorted this out in a good way.
*lays down up against the wall*
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Btw, what do you guys thnk of the "Queens Amulet"? |
The time travel totem? |
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I thought it was weird how she was the only one not to get her prize back.
Oh, the explosion thing is another reason why I'm wary of Tyrese. Just so everything's out on the table. |
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Alright people, i'm kinda snoozy.
Good thing we sorted this out in a good way.
*lays down up against the wall*
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| Post #30: 3rd May 2013 5:15:43 AM | |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
Yup, looks good to me. Only request would be that if the shotgun is passed to Helm that she pass the crystal off first, but I think based on our earlier convo about it that is kind of a given.
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I don't mind but I was going to be holding the ammo, not the shotgun.
Are there more shotguns for the ammo to use with somewhere else? |
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I thought it was weird how she was the only one not to get her prize back.
Oh, the explosion thing is another reason why I'm wary of Tyrese. Just so everything's out on the table. |
I will admit him surviving the seemingly deadly sea creature while at the same time having an incurable wound is a bit... strange. |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
Yup, looks good to me. Only request would be that if the shotgun is passed to Helm that she pass the crystal off first, but I think based on our earlier convo about it that is kind of a given.
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I don't mind but I was going to be holding the ammo, not the shotgun.
Are there more shotguns for the ammo to use with somewhere else? |
I was just meaning if Ajax was going to pass the gun to you.
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Btw, what do you guys thnk of the "Queens Amulet"? |
I am starting to think there is no amulet. Surely someone would have come forward by now. |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
Yup, looks good to me. Only request would be that if the shotgun is passed to Helm that she pass the crystal off first, but I think based on our earlier convo about it that is kind of a given.
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I don't mind but I was going to be holding the ammo, not the shotgun.
Are there more shotguns for the ammo to use with somewhere else? |
I was just meaning if Ajax was going to pass the gun to you.
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Oh, well I was thinking more the other way around.
I pass the ammo to him when he needs it. |
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Oh, and I would assume there may be other guns somewhere |
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Arimnestos: 1 shot definte kill
Sophia: 50/50
Helm: Ammo
Ajax: Shotgun
Everyone good with this? |
Yup, looks good to me. Only request would be that if the shotgun is passed to Helm that she pass the crystal off first, but I think based on our earlier convo about it that is kind of a given.
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I don't mind but I was going to be holding the ammo, not the shotgun.
Are there more shotguns for the ammo to use with somewhere else? |
I was just meaning if Ajax was going to pass the gun to you.
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Oh, well I was thinking more the other way around.
I pass the ammo to him when he needs it. |
I thought that way too, but wanted to mention the other while we were putting everything on the table. |
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