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Post #16: 2nd Apr 2013 6:55:35 PM 
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Katy @ 2/4/2013 11:41
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 15:36
Do we have two talkies? Ive only seen one.


No, we only have one. But if I understand Kristoff correctly, there should be one in the room to the north.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 11:41
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 11:36
Do we have two talkies? Ive only seen one.

We only have one right now, but we think the second one could be in this time period.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 11:42
Ah that makes sense. Thanks.

I must have missed part where Kristoff mention that.


Andrael @ 2/4/2013 12:20
And brave soul you are Lincoln. Do come out of this in one piece.

##follow: Lincoln


Dern @ 2/4/2013 12:47
I have the medical kit.

Though I must say I doubt it's effectiveness.

I do not recognize any of these remedies.

These are not the herbs I am familiar with.

Still I will watch after it just the same.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 12:50
Arimnestos tiny knife could also help us if someone comes down with an ailment.

We could cut the one with the ailment and remove their bad blood.

I am told bloodletting is very effective for curing diseases.


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 13:22
I'm still messing with maps. Couple things I noticed, they have their first room north marked as a portal room (assuming that's the meaning of the purple color and also matches the first room from the past group). That probably indicates the swap in direction choices when they exited #9880, or someone left their group. Perhaps the person that died or was injured?

Also, their map shows no room to the East of room #2223.


Arimnestos @ 2/4/2013 13:23
##Follow: Lincoln


Dern @ 2/4/2013 13:26
Pretty sure purple on pai chan's map is for items since that's where we found the chalk.


Ajax @ 2/4/2013 13:30
I'm not sure what wait for us ahead, but I hope to find you safe at the other side, Lincoln.

##Exit: North


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 13:34
Dern @ 2/4/2013 13:26
Pretty sure purple on pai chan's map is for items since that's where we found the chalk.


Ahh ok, that's also where Theseus disappeared through the portal so I was confused.


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 13:35
##Follow: Ajax


Maria @ 2/4/2013 13:37
##Follow: Airlea


Katy @ 2/4/2013 13:44
##Follow: Maria


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 13:46
Art of medicine has evolved much in the time between our births, dear Dern. You might not know what items these are but when the time comes I can help guide you in its usage.

I am trained in combat medicine. I know my way around wounds inflicted by weapons.

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Post #17: 2nd Apr 2013 8:37:48 PM 
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General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 13:47
##Follow: Ajax


Sophia @ 2/4/2013 13:48
##follow Katy


Dern @ 2/4/2013 13:53
Airlea @ 2/4/2013 13:34
Dern @ 2/4/2013 13:26
Pretty sure purple on pai chan's map is for items since that's where we found the chalk.


Ahh ok, that's also where Theseus disappeared through the portal so I was confused.


theseus disappeared in the second room actually.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 13:57
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 13:46
Art of medicine has evolved much in the time between our births, dear Dern. You might not know what items these are but when the time comes I can help guide you in its usage.

I am trained in combat medicine. I know my way around wounds inflicted by weapons.


That is very kind of you Sir Mikhail.

I will have to take you up on that offer.


Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 14:21
I don't exactly like the idea of heading into a room we're completely aware of that has a trap, but who am I to argue if I'm not the one leading the pact? I just hope this does not cost us any unwilling lives.

##Exit: North


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 14:32
##exit: north


Taylor @ 2/4/2013 14:38
*shakes uncontrollably*


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 14:38
Dennis, will you be able to jet pack again in north room? Maybe we should discuss a bit when it is best to use it next.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 14:42
Taylor @ 2/4/2013 14:38
*shakes uncontrollably*

Are you okay?


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 14:49
Taylor @ 2/4/2013 14:38
*shakes uncontrollably*


What's wrong Taylor?


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 14:50
Dennis, do you think the most recent map Dern posted correctly reflects the rooms you had described to you?


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 14:53
I can go up in the next room.

No, I don't unless he change it this phase. I posted what i thought last phase but I think we phased out right after. Ill be home in ~30 so I can post what I know/don't know again


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 14:54
Also, our goal is to get Kristoffs package and the other wallow, correct? Have we been explained why this is important?


Sophia @ 2/4/2013 14:58
I think we ought to get his and maybe make our way to the one this room dropped off


Scott @ 2/4/2013 15:11
What about the staircase to the South?

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Post #18: 2nd Apr 2013 9:36:10 PM 
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Sophia @ 2/4/2013 15:15
Well, both are worth exploring but I dunno if we can even do anything if there are immortals there. Don't we need the sword first? It's worth discussing though.


Taylor @ 2/4/2013 15:19
##exit: north


Maria @ 2/4/2013 15:20
Sophia @ 2/4/2013 15:15
Well, both are worth exploring but I dunno if we can even do anything if there are immortals there. Don't we need the sword first? It's worth discussing though.

I don't think we need the sword to get the Immortals. The sword is for killing shades and Willis.


Sophia @ 2/4/2013 15:22
Oh I guess I was confused or something. I thought they were sealed and needed the sword to free them but maybe I was just confused


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:24
Can someone tell me the dimensions of room 1117?


Scott @ 2/4/2013 15:24
I mean, if we think an Immortal is up those stairs, it doesn't really make sense rto me to have everyone heading away from it.


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:31
was it 3 width and 2 length?

There is something that Dern messed up that needed to be corrected, but i cant find what that was


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 15:34
Dennis @ 2/4/2013 14:53
I can go up in the next room.

No, I don't unless he change it this phase. I posted what i thought last phase but I think we phased out right after. Ill be home in ~30 so I can post what I know/don't know again


Thanks, I must have missed your post at the end of last phase. I would appreciate if you could repost it.

He did post this map on page 12
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Dennis @ 2/4/2013 14:54
Also, our goal is to get Kristoffs package and the other wallow, correct? Have we been explained why this is important?


Not really.



Sophia @ 2/4/2013 14:58
I think we ought to get his and maybe make our way to the one this room dropped off


I believe the room it was dropped into may also be trapped, so we need to decide what our priorities are.



Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:24
Can someone tell me the dimensions of room 1117?


Have we been in this room (1117)? I'm confused where this room number came from, I don't remember seeing it mentioned before.


Katy @ 2/4/2013 15:42
Taylor @ 2/4/2013 18:38
*shakes uncontrollably*


Are you alright? Do you need any help?


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:44
I can confirm that that is all correct. I do not know about the stuff in the northwest tho, I think that came from Kristoff.

Did I say what was in that room with the locked door?


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 15:46
Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:44
I can confirm that that is all correct. I do not know about the stuff in the northwest tho, I think that came from Kristoff.

Did I say what was in that room with the locked door?


I don't believe so. You mentioned not wanting to tell us what was in one of the rooms several times, but I was never clear if it was the locked room or another one. Brittany did name that room when she mentioned items during that phase.


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 16:04
Alright I guess I should keep that to myself for now.

Now that I think about it more, I think that it could very well possibly be a trap- but with a benefit if you complete it correctly.


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 16:10
Where was room #1117?


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 16:23
I think i just had 1177 typed in instead of 1144


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 16:24
Oh, got it. Do you still need the dimensions of #1144?

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Post #19: 2nd Apr 2013 9:50:07 PM 
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Dern @ 2/4/2013 16:35
Scott @ 2/4/2013 15:24
I mean, if we think an Immortal is up those stairs, it doesn't really make sense rto me to have everyone heading away from it.


Once we find the other walking talker maybe we can divide and concur a bit more.


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:44
I can confirm that that is all correct. I do not know about the stuff in the northwest tho, I think that came from Kristoff.

Did I say what was in that room with the locked door?


Sophia gave us a map from the other team which is why all those room are only colored in the past.

And I am really curious what is behind that door.

Though I guess it doesn't entirely matter until we actually have a key for it.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 16:51
##exit: North


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 17:13
I'll be away this evening, if someone would note anything I might miss I would greatly appreciate it. :) Thanks!

(will try to check in on my phone, no guarantee that I will be able to do much more than skim posts)


Brittany :)) @ 2/4/2013 17:15
Whats going on???


Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:22
##Exit: North
##Follow: Katy

(Sorry I've been so quiet guys, I'm in the middle of final exams right now and between that, work and family/friends - I am being spread out thinly at the moment)


Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


Brittany :)) @ 2/4/2013 17:26
##Follow: Katy
##Exit: North


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 17:29
Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 21:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


Sounds a lot like that.

Maybe Arim give Maria knife? Too late for that maybe?


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Post #20: 3rd Apr 2013 3:50:46 AM 
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Dern @ 2/4/2013 16:35
Scott @ 2/4/2013 15:24
I mean, if we think an Immortal is up those stairs, it doesn't really make sense rto me to have everyone heading away from it.


Once we find the other walking talker maybe we can divide and concur a bit more.


Dennis @ 2/4/2013 15:44
I can confirm that that is all correct. I do not know about the stuff in the northwest tho, I think that came from Kristoff.

Did I say what was in that room with the locked door?


Sophia gave us a map from the other team which is why all those room are only colored in the past.

And I am really curious what is behind that door.

Though I guess it doesn't entirely matter until we actually have a key for it.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 16:51
##exit: North


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 17:13
I'll be away this evening, if someone would note anything I might miss I would greatly appreciate it. :) Thanks!

(will try to check in on my phone, no guarantee that I will be able to do much more than skim posts)


Brittany :)) @ 2/4/2013 17:15
Whats going on???


Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:22
##Exit: North
##Follow: Katy

(Sorry I've been so quiet guys, I'm in the middle of final exams right now and between that, work and family/friends - I am being spread out thinly at the moment)


Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


Brittany :)) @ 2/4/2013 17:26
##Follow: Katy
##Exit: North


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 17:29
Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 21:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


Sounds a lot like that.

Maybe Arim give Maria knife? Too late for that maybe?


Katy @ 2/4/2013 17:40
Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 21:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


We'll be able to time travel soon. It would be interesting if he'd time travel and end up in the same room as us.


Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:41
I do like that idea General, but I think Maria's teleportation would take effect next phase by which point Carl might have moved on.

Also, I wouldn't feel safe having Maria go alone because if Carl can steal the staff, who knows what else he may have, or what his ability may be.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:42
General Mikhail Chuikov @ 2/4/2013 17:29
Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 21:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


Sounds a lot like that.

Maybe Arim give Maria knife? Too late for that maybe?


Not too late but if he's not in this room we'd have no way to communicate with Maria whichever way she goes.

I feel like if we go to the past for Carl we should do it all together.

All things said though I doubt Carl would be in our same room.

He would have no reason to have waited in the previous room.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:45
Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:41
I do like that idea General, but I think Maria's teleportation would take effect next phase by which point Carl might have moved on.

Also, I wouldn't feel safe having Maria go alone because if Carl can steal the staff, who knows what else he may have, or what his ability may be.


No it would be instant but we would have no way of communicating with her after she left.


Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:46
Yeah, I'd rather have her stay since noone can go with her anyways and her going alone is not a good idea.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:47
Maria was it explained why you can time travel without your amulet? You said you needed to go to the past to collect it but now it doesn't seem to matter?


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:48
##follow: Katy

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Post #21: 3rd Apr 2013 3:52:26 AM 
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Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:49
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:47
Maria was it explained why you can time travel without your amulet? You said you needed to go to the past to collect it but now it doesn't seem to matter?


From what I recall the amulet isn't what makes her time travel.

That's needed for another reason.

To complete her objective and for personal reasons.

Otherwise she wouldn't have traveled back to the past in the first place to find it.


Andrael @ 2/4/2013 17:53
Tyrese @ 2/4/2013 17:26
Guys, Carl "walks" among us yet is all alone.

That's all I got - just taking a stab but maybe it means Carl is either close to us as in around us somewhere, or maybe he's in the parallel room in the past to us?


I take this to be that he is still quite much alive, not necessarily close to us per say.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:53
I don't think it is wise trusting her so much given the ambiguity over her role and now objective. Ajax is far more trustworthy on both accounts as I can't see his role being evil.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:55
Maybe he walks among us because he is now in our time again.

But he's in another room by himself.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:56
And Dern she said she needed the Amulet to time travel and that she had lost it in the maze so could no longer time travel.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:56
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:53
I don't think it is wise trusting her so much given the ambiguity over her role and now objective. Ajax is far more trustworthy on both accounts as I can't see his role being evil.


I was willing to trust you when others were not.

Maria deserves as much trust until she proves otherwise.


Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:58
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:56
And Dern she said she needed the Amulet to time travel and that she had lost it in the maze so could no longer time travel.


I do not recall that.

Though she might not have known she could time travel until it was revealed we could move between the rooms.

Like how Ajax didn't know he could recharge his time powers until that was a revealed thing.


Andrael @ 2/4/2013 17:59
Dern @ 2/4/2013 17:55
Maybe he walks among us because he is now in our time again.

But he's in another room by himself.


This is another possibility


Katy @ 2/4/2013 18:03
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 21:53
I don't think it is wise trusting her so much given the ambiguity over her role and now objective. Ajax is far more trustworthy on both accounts as I can't see his role being evil.


I feel that you need to reminded that you gave us no reason to trust you, yet all of us here were willing to take a chance that you were worth the trust. Maybe you should consider doing the same for us.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 18:04
Dern @ 3/4/2013 10:58
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:56
And Dern she said she needed the Amulet to time travel and that she had lost it in the maze so could no longer time travel.


I do not recall that.

Though she might not have known she could time travel until it was revealed we could move between the rooms.

Like how Ajax didn't know he could recharge his time powers until that was a revealed thing.


Idk. There is something inconsistent in her amulet story as she did say it was needed for time travel. I have the same objectives as everyone else does and none talk of a personal mission.

Just think we should be more cautious as to who we give things to. I think Ajax is far more trustworthy than her as his role is pretty much confirmed and he has no known alternative objective.

(once again, no offence Maria)


Scott @ 2/4/2013 18:04
##follow ajax
##exit north


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 18:06
Katy @ 3/4/2013 11:03
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 21:53
I don't think it is wise trusting her so much given the ambiguity over her role and now objective. Ajax is far more trustworthy on both accounts as I can't see his role being evil.


I feel that you need to reminded that you gave us no reason to trust you, yet all of us here were willing to take a chance that you were worth the trust. Maybe you should consider doing the same for us.


Us?

And you did not trust me for why you followed me. I was followed for time travel. I feel little trust was needed in that decision.

I understand making leaps of faith in terms of trust when needed but why now when we have a perfectly trustworthy Ajax?


Dern @ 2/4/2013 18:09
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 18:06
Katy @ 3/4/2013 11:03
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 21:53
I don't think it is wise trusting her so much given the ambiguity over her role and now objective. Ajax is far more trustworthy on both accounts as I can't see his role being evil.


I feel that you need to reminded that you gave us no reason to trust you, yet all of us here were willing to take a chance that you were worth the trust. Maybe you should consider doing the same for us.


Us?

And you did not trust me for why you followed me. I was followed for time travel. I feel little trust was needed in that decision.

I understand making leaps of faith in terms of trust when needed but why now when we have a perfectly trustworthy Ajax?


Ajax said he would be busy and suggested me and Maria.

I think that was all there was to it.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 18:11
I think being busy wouldn't matter for the walkie-talkie.

I guess its up to you guys if you want to trust someone with no confirmed role, a conflicting story and an alternative "objective". I have said what was on my mind so I guess it is up to you to make your own decision.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 18:16
It appears even Willis can get tired. Another 24 hours we wait!

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Post #22: 3rd Apr 2013 4:01:44 AM 
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Katy @ 2/4/2013 18:18
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 22:06
Katy @ 3/4/2013 11:03
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 21:53
I don't think it is wise trusting her so much given the ambiguity over her role and now objective. Ajax is far more trustworthy on both accounts as I can't see his role being evil.


I feel that you need to reminded that you gave us no reason to trust you, yet all of us here were willing to take a chance that you were worth the trust. Maybe you should consider doing the same for us.


Us?

And you did not trust me for why you followed me. I was followed for time travel. I feel little trust was needed in that decision.

I understand making leaps of faith in terms of trust when needed but why now when we have a perfectly trustworthy Ajax?


I want to make something clear. I trust you. If you would tell me that there isn't a trap in a room, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to be the first to enter the room. You have earned that trust.

What I meant was that we have to be willing to trust each other here. We are a team and mistrust will only make things harder for us.

Call me naive, but I trust everyone here to have my back if I would need it.


Scott @ 2/4/2013 18:25
I hope you feel better, Willis. Take your time.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 18:29
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 17:47
Maria was it explained why you can time travel without your amulet? You said you needed to go to the past to collect it but now it doesn't seem to matter?

No, that's not it. I never needed the amulet to time travel. I'm a magical girl. I got here through my own power, but once I arrived, something made my powers not work. I came with you because I wanted to go to the past to collect the amulet and I didn't think I could time travel any other way anymore, but then I got some of my power back after that flash in Room 9880.

The amulet still matters to me and I still mean to find it. I'm not leaving this place until I get it back. It's why I came here. The reason I'm not going immediately to the past is because I'm in this group trying to help you all.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 18:36
The amulet is why my signature is "Don't forget".


Dern @ 2/4/2013 18:42
Ok good.

I'm glad I remembered it correctly.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 18:46
Dern @ 2/4/2013 18:42
Ok good.

I'm glad I remembered it correctly.

I think Kristoff must've just misread something.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:13
Oh so you can confirm the amulet is some other objective? Does the amulet actually do something?


Brittany :)) @ 2/4/2013 19:21
I know I might be sounding like a TOTAL TOTAL TOTAL bitch but didnt all of us just say we would kill Kristoff if anything silly was happening?? I mean to me that doesnt sound like we were just giving trust up to him!!

Im probably just like really stupid :/ This maze has made me CRAZY!


Maria @ 2/4/2013 19:21
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:13
Oh so you can confirm the amulet is some other objective? Does the amulet actually do something?

Finding it is not my current official objective (finding the sword and the guardians is), and I don't know what the amulet can do. It's just very important to me, so finding it is a personal goal.


Andrael @ 2/4/2013 19:27
Maria @ 2/4/2013 19:21
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:13
Oh so you can confirm the amulet is some other objective? Does the amulet actually do something?

Finding it is not my current official objective (finding the sword and the guardians is), and I don't know what the amulet can do. It's just very important to me, so finding it is a personal goal.


If you complete the quest with us and do not find the amulet do you win?


Maria @ 2/4/2013 19:33
Andrael @ 2/4/2013 19:27
Maria @ 2/4/2013 19:21
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:13
Oh so you can confirm the amulet is some other objective? Does the amulet actually do something?

Finding it is not my current official objective (finding the sword and the guardians is), and I don't know what the amulet can do. It's just very important to me, so finding it is a personal goal.


If you complete the quest with us and do not find the amulet do you win?

Officially, yes.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:46
Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 12:21
I know I might be sounding like a TOTAL TOTAL TOTAL bitch but didnt all of us just say we would kill Kristoff if anything silly was happening?? I mean to me that doesnt sound like we were just giving trust up to him!!

Im probably just like really stupid :/ This maze has made me CRAZY!


I certainly had a few death threats... not from you though :)))


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:47
Thank you for clearing that up Maria.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 19:49
Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 19:47
Thank you for clearing that up Maria.

You're welcome. :)


Maria @ 2/4/2013 19:51
Brittany :)) @ 2/4/2013 19:21
I know I might be sounding like a TOTAL TOTAL TOTAL bitch but didnt all of us just say we would kill Kristoff if anything silly was happening?? I mean to me that doesnt sound like we were just giving trust up to him!!

Im probably just like really stupid :/ This maze has made me CRAZY!

I think someone suggested it as a last resort if he refused to work with us, and I remember saying that I would punish him if he messed up the time travel by getting drunk.

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Post #23: 3rd Apr 2013 4:03:36 AM 
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Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 20:25
Most of the threats seemed to come from those in the other group I believe.


Hobert @ 2/4/2013 20:59
##Exit: north


Kristoff Pieterson @ 2/4/2013 20:25
Most of the threats seemed to come from those in the other group I believe.


Hobert @ 2/4/2013 20:59
##Exit: north


Hobert @ 2/4/2013 21:05
(No time today I'm sorry)


Dern @ 2/4/2013 21:07
Well there is plenty of time to discuss or chat really.


Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:04
As I said earlier, I am definitely not in favor of going to a room we already know in advance to be trapped. But obviously there are pros and cons to every situation, so what exactly are we even taking this risk for? What's in this room that is so special that we're so willing to risk lives for?


Sophia @ 2/4/2013 22:09
No point springing a trap when Carl could potentially walk into it


Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:12
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:04
As I said earlier, I am definitely not in favor of going to a room we already know in advance to be trapped. But obviously there are pros and cons to every situation, so what exactly are we even taking this risk for? What's in this room that is so special that we're so willing to risk lives for?

Kristoff's box, I think.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:19
I'd rather go into a room knowing there's a trap rather than go in blindly, even if knowing the trap's there doesn't mean it can be kept from triggering.


Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:21
Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:12
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:04
As I said earlier, I am definitely not in favor of going to a room we already know in advance to be trapped. But obviously there are pros and cons to every situation, so what exactly are we even taking this risk for? What's in this room that is so special that we're so willing to risk lives for?

Kristoff's box, I think.

That's what I thought, but that doesn't answer the question as to what exactly the box is, or what it does. What good is this box? I thought our goals were clear: discover the sword & immortals, we may need his staff but unless we know this is gonna help, what's the point if we're risking losing lives?


Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:25
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:21
Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:12
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:04
As I said earlier, I am definitely not in favor of going to a room we already know in advance to be trapped. But obviously there are pros and cons to every situation, so what exactly are we even taking this risk for? What's in this room that is so special that we're so willing to risk lives for?

Kristoff's box, I think.

That's what I thought, but that doesn't answer the question as to what exactly the box is, or what it does. What good is this box? I thought our goals were clear: discover the sword & immortals, we may need his staff but unless we know this is gonna help, what's the point if we're risking losing lives?

The box is supposed to have the other walkie-talkie in it and a defensive item, but I know what you mean. It might not be worth it to go after those items compared to the sword and immortals. If Kristoff's information about the items in the box is right, I think the items can probably help a lot, but it'll still be risky.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:27
I'm looking at Dern's map again and wondering if we should try going East first, and then coming back here and going after the box.

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Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:28
Or we could split up and have one group go North and another East (I'm sorry if this has been suggested before! My day's been busy and I haven't followed things as closely here). We could meet back in here and continue.


Sophia @ 2/4/2013 22:29
I don't think it has. I thought of it but didn't suggest it since I'd rather we all continue on together


Dern @ 2/4/2013 22:29
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:21
Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:12
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:04
As I said earlier, I am definitely not in favor of going to a room we already know in advance to be trapped. But obviously there are pros and cons to every situation, so what exactly are we even taking this risk for? What's in this room that is so special that we're so willing to risk lives for?

Kristoff's box, I think.

That's what I thought, but that doesn't answer the question as to what exactly the box is, or what it does. What good is this box? I thought our goals were clear: discover the sword & immortals, we may need his staff but unless we know this is gonna help, what's the point if we're risking losing lives?


We think the other walking talker is in the box.

If we have both maybe we can make 2 teams that can keep in contact with each other.

... in theory.

That would be very helpful in completing our objective.


Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:31
^ I would be down for that since I'm not exactly excited about walking into a room knowing there's a trap... but I'm also not excited about splitting up, so it's a tough situation.

Ohhh this is the defensive item and the other walkie talkie box? How did we figure out where it is, or that it even existed? So confusing. Thanks, Maria. :)

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Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:32
and Dern and Sophia :P


Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:34
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:31
^ I would be down for that since I'm not exactly excited about walking into a room knowing there's a trap... but I'm also not excited about splitting up, so it's a tough situation.

Ohhh this is the defensive item and the other walkie talkie box? How did we figure out where it is, or that it even existed? So confusing. Thanks, Maria. :)

Kristoff told us about it after he got out of the Red Room trap.


Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:37
No one has considered the fact that Willis may have wanted him to bring us here?


Dern @ 2/4/2013 22:41
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:37
No one has considered the fact that Willis may have wanted him to bring us here?


I've considered it yes.

The fact that there is an item and a trap in that room means we'll likely have to give something up to get something good.

Thankfully we have this medical kit to hopefully avoid anything too severe.


Airlea @ 2/4/2013 22:41
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:37
No one has considered the fact that Willis may have wanted him to bring us here?


I have been considering that.


Maria @ 2/4/2013 22:43
Peter Mallick @ 2/4/2013 22:37
No one has considered the fact that Willis may have wanted him to bring us here?

I believe we talked about that possibility right after Kristoff got out and told us about it.


Lincoln @ 3/4/2013 1:33
I still think the defensive item and walkie talkie are enough of an asset to go for it. The box trap seems like a test or puzzzle more than life threatening, but you never know. I think we should go on as if there were no delay, Willis could be trying to get us to change our strategy.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 3/4/2013 3:37
Get well Willis.

I trust Maria for now. But must remember can never trust anyone 100%. I do not doubt there are many ways that turn people from light to dark. We must keep that in mind.

We are in crazy situation. I have seen the bravest soldiers lose their minds in much less stress inducing situation. Anyone can falter.


Taylor @ 3/4/2013 4:41
(I hope you get better Willis, so we can kill you)


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 4:58
Willis asked me to pick it up "for him" so its strange there is a trap there. I wonder what a defensive weapon is too. Cerberus?

Splitting up cannot be an option. If the maze shifts or some other event occurs we only play into the hands of those who are evil.


Maria @ 3/4/2013 7:43
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 4:58
Willis asked me to pick it up "for him" so its strange there is a trap there. I wonder what a defensive weapon is too. Cerberus?

Splitting up cannot be an option. If the maze shifts or some other event occurs we only play into the hands of those who are evil.

I don't think it's strange at all that he's asking you to go into a trapped room to get something for him, and splitting up isn't the only way to possibly play into the hands of evil. We can all be together and unintentionally do that.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 7:49
Well the wording of the flavour would make it strange/why not just kill me there then make me walk to a trap.

And yes but splitting up quickens that process which I would hope no one would want. Splitting in this scenario doesn't really change anything... Either way the trap activates. Either on 1 person in a group of 10 or 1 person in a group of 20. We have a medkit too.


Maria @ 3/4/2013 7:55
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 7:49
Well the wording of the flavour would make it strange/why not just kill me there then make me walk to a trap.

And yes but splitting up quickens that process which I would hope no one would want. Splitting in this scenario doesn't really change anything... Either way the trap activates. Either on 1 person in a group of 10 or 1 person in a group of 20. We have a medkit too.

He's an evil wizard. He can send you into a trap if he wants to.

And I meant split up so one group could grab the East exit item while the other group got the North exit stuff. It has nothing to do with not activating the trap.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 7:59
Ahh I see. People mentioned going East to avoid the trap earlier so I assumed that was your reason.

Well if the maze shifted it would not be good. I also am not a fan of large groups splitting off. Someone doing a recon mission like Ari is better as it risks only 1 person being separated, but half the group this early on is very risky if a room shift or some other event occurred.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:01
(This inactive pushing is a very good.)

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Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:03
##exit: North (if I haven't already)


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:04
And ##follow: Lincoln


Maria @ 3/4/2013 8:16
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:01
(This inactive pushing is a very good.)

Yeah! I like it.


Airlea @ 3/4/2013 8:32
Maria @ 3/4/2013 8:16
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:01
(This inactive pushing is a very good.)

Yeah! I like it.


Is it worth going East first, then north to take advantage of this?


Dern @ 3/4/2013 8:55
Airlea @ 3/4/2013 8:32
Maria @ 3/4/2013 8:16
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:01
(This inactive pushing is a very good.)

Yeah! I like it.


Is it worth going East first, then north to take advantage of this?


It wouldn't kick in for Erebos until phase 12 if that is what you're thinking.

And normally I would say splitting up was bad.

I only thought it was a possible strategy if we have both of the walking talkers and we could exchange where we are on the map at any given time.


Dern @ 3/4/2013 9:32
Oh I misread I thought the inactive counter didn't start until phase 9.

That actually might work now that I think of it.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 9:39
Isn't Phase 12 the earliest we can kick someone? Meaning it wouldn't work?


Ajax @ 3/4/2013 9:39
Well, if we don't try it we might never find out.

##Push: Erebos

I'm sorry Erebos, but 2 posts in almost 9 phases is not really that helpful for the group.


Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 9:43
Or Phase 11? In case it is now...

##Push: Erebus


Ajax @ 3/4/2013 9:43
(Speaking to Willis, it will start next phase)


Maria @ 3/4/2013 10:08
Airlea @ 3/4/2013 8:32
Maria @ 3/4/2013 8:16
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:01
(This inactive pushing is a very good.)

Yeah! I like it.


Is it worth going East first, then north to take advantage of this?


Airlea @ 3/4/2013 8:32
Maria @ 3/4/2013 8:16
Kristoff Pieterson @ 3/4/2013 8:01
(This inactive pushing is a very good.)

Yeah! I like it.


Is it worth going East first, then north to take advantage of this?

It could be.


Hobert @ 3/4/2013 11:34
I was thinking the same thing about Kristoff's box as I was coming on to post.

The only thing is do we think Erebos will come back? (I didn't even know there was an Erebos).

Because if he were to come back, I would at least like to hear what his role is first. If he is going to be semi-active and has a good role that could be extremely beneficial, I don't want to kill him off over someone else who is just as unhelpful and has a less impactful role. (I don't know if it's shallow but it's something to think about).


Sophia @ 3/4/2013 11:41
Rhea is also in active. So we have two options


Hobert @ 3/4/2013 11:43
Rhea comes around more than Erebos right? I don't think I've ever seen him post.


Sophia @ 3/4/2013 11:44
I haven't seen Rhea in a while but I'm pretty sure she has more than two posts

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Maria @ 3/4/2013 11:54
We'll know who's inactive next phase.


Maria @ 3/4/2013 12:03
I like Airlea's idea of going East first.


Dennis @ 3/4/2013 12:51
Same. We ain't got nuthin but time.


Dennis @ 3/4/2013 12:52
Should we just push our inactive first everywhere?


Hobert @ 3/4/2013 13:36
Probably, but in some cases when there isn't a trap, it shouldn't necessarily matter. Voting would give us something to do I guess.


Dern @ 3/4/2013 13:36
Maria @ 3/4/2013 11:54
We'll know who's inactive next phase.


will people be marked next phase or will the counter merely start?

because if it's just the timer we won't know for 3 phases after that.


Dern @ 3/4/2013 13:46
It's a good thing Carl didn't end up exiting normally.

He'd have the staff And a push-monkey in Erebos.


Maria @ 3/4/2013 14:00
Dern @ 3/4/2013 13:36
Maria @ 3/4/2013 11:54
We'll know who's inactive next phase.


will people be marked next phase or will the counter merely start?

because if it's just the timer we won't know for 3 phases after that.

Oh, I'm not sure. I interpreted Ajax's message as meaning that we'd be able to push people, so we'd know who was inactiv by that phase. I don't think Erebus has posted at all in the past three phases, so I thought he'd show as inactive.


Katy @ 3/4/2013 14:06
I like the idea of going east first to get the package, then coming back and convince some of our more quiet members to volunteer go into the trapped room first. And then finally going to see that immortal.


Airlea @ 3/4/2013 14:23
What happened to Taylor and why is his name red?! Did he ever explain what was going on?


Scott @ 3/4/2013 14:24
When I read the inactive notice, I thought it applied just to the other group - I didn't even realize we had inactive people. That being said, I have noticed Rhea at least viewing the thread a few times.

I like the idea of going East first so we can push Erebos into a possible trap instead of one of our own. I support it fully, for what it's worth.


Willis @ 3/4/2013 14:33
There was a gurgling noise in the background as the group looked around. Taylor had been shaking uncontrollably for quite some time. Dern approached him cautiously and reached out a hand.

"Are you okay Taylor?" He queried. Taylor's eyes were bloodshot as he looked over.

At that moment he fell on the floor. There were gasps from the group as they watched him convulse. Blood poured out of his nose. He finally stopped shaking and lay on the floor, silent and still. Maria walked over and checked his pulse.

"He's dead" She confirmed to the group.

There was a moment of silence as the death hung over the room.

Taylor has been modkilled by request. In order to prevent any potential confusion or misdirection down the line, an official announcement will be posted in the news section shortly.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 3/4/2013 14:35
These suicides are getting serious.


Airlea @ 3/4/2013 14:37
:\ Well, this is sad. I guess that explains my last question.

Bye Taylor.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 3/4/2013 14:37
Both their names start with T.

Tyrese dont do it.



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Airlea @ 3/4/2013 14:44
I think it's a little more frustrating knowing had he just gone inactive we could have potentially kept one of us alive longer instead. :(



Scott @ 3/4/2013 14:46
The other group must really think we're terrible if we keep having these self-induced deaths.


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 3/4/2013 15:20
Airlea @ 3/4/2013 18:44
I think it's a little more frustrating knowing had he just gone inactive we could have potentially kept one of us alive longer instead. :(



Maybe we will benefit from his role being passed to someone more active? Says his role will be distributed. Not sure how though.


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 15:23
TAYLOR!!!!! :((( -runs to body- OMG :((



Rhea L. @ 3/4/2013 15:25
Scott @ 3/4/2013 14:24
When I read the inactive notice, I thought it applied just to the other group - I didn't even realize we had inactive people. That being said, I have noticed Rhea at least viewing the thread a few times.

I like the idea of going East first so we can push Erebos into a possible trap instead of one of our own. I support it fully, for what it's worth.


OOC: I am here, I'm just dealing with a bit of outside stuff at the moment. I find it a bit difficult to keep up with our party still so large, that everytime I check the game, there's another 20-30 pages to go through, unlike last Lab, where I only had to deal with 5-6 pages. We have a lot of meaningless chatter. That being said, I would be contributing a lot more if I had the chance. I'll let y'all know if something catches my eye though.


Katy @ 3/4/2013 15:35
I can't believe we lost another one.

* Walk up to Taylor's body and says a short prayer *

May you find peace with God.


Sophia @ 3/4/2013 15:42
Well at the very least it's nice to know you're still around!


General Mikhail Chuikov @ 3/4/2013 15:48
Rhea L. @ 3/4/2013 19:25
Scott @ 3/4/2013 14:24
When I read the inactive notice, I thought it applied just to the other group - I didn't even realize we had inactive people. That being said, I have noticed Rhea at least viewing the thread a few times.

I like the idea of going East first so we can push Erebos into a possible trap instead of one of our own. I support it fully, for what it's worth.


OOC: I am here, I'm just dealing with a bit of outside stuff at the moment. I find it a bit difficult to keep up with our party still so large, that everytime I check the game, there's another 20-30 pages to go through, unlike last Lab, where I only had to deal with 5-6 pages. We have a lot of meaningless chatter. That being said, I would be contributing a lot more if I had the chance. I'll let y'all know if something catches my eye though.


True about much of useless talking.

My old ears get very tired when young, eager people have so much to say about unimportant things. But a man must keep up. I will carry my weight around here.


Dennis @ 3/4/2013 15:56
##fondle: taylor's body


Scott @ 3/4/2013 16:01
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Scott @ 3/4/2013 16:01
That didn't work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4


Hobert @ 3/4/2013 16:22
I was noticing Taylor hadn't been around much. Also Tyrese hasn't been around much lately either.


Tyrese @ 3/4/2013 16:30
Don't worry guys I'm not about to get sick and die anytime soon (just in the middle of exam period as I mentioned previously so I may not post as much, but I am still keeping up tabs).

I do think I missed one thing though, this inactive talk and this whole "pushing" notion - would anyone mind filling me in on that?


Airlea @ 3/4/2013 16:32
Tyrese @ 3/4/2013 16:30
Don't worry guys I'm not about to get sick and die anytime soon (just in the middle of exam period as I mentioned previously so I may not post as much, but I am still keeping up tabs).

I do think I missed one thing though, this inactive talk and this whole "pushing" notion - would anyone mind filling me in on that?


There is an update from Willis on the main board.

(and glad to hear you won't be going anywhere :) )


Scott @ 3/4/2013 16:35
Spoiler+



Alternatively,

http://www.ndimforums.com/lab3/thread.asp?threadid=24&pp=15#new

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Tyrese @ 3/4/2013 16:35
Ahh ok, just saw it, thanks Airlea!



Tyrese @ 3/4/2013 16:36
Oh, one thing did pique my interest. Sophia gets maps (Pai-Chan's) every phase and hears the occasional voice, correct?


Lincoln @ 3/4/2013 16:37
Waiting is killing me. Would just like to move on


Peter Mallick @ 3/4/2013 16:41
We have about 2-3 hours left? Do we even have time to switch from going north to going east?


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 16:42
Why would we go East yall??? My head is still wonky over poor Taytays death :(( ITS GONNA BE ME NEXT


Lincoln @ 3/4/2013 16:44
If we try to change and I don't lead North some one else would be leading and spring the trap. We should probably continue as we planned since without the delay it would have already happened.


Dern @ 3/4/2013 16:44
Peter Mallick @ 3/4/2013 16:41
We have about 2-3 hours left? Do we even have time to switch from going north to going east?


It's possible.

but we'd all have to do it or we'll split up.

Or at least all the people who didnt just follow would have to swap.

and it is unfortunate we lose another team player like this.


Sophia @ 3/4/2013 16:52
Tyrese @ 3/4/2013 15:36
Oh, one thing did pique my interest. Sophia gets maps (Pai-Chan's) every phase and hears the occasional voice, correct?


I got a map a few times and sometimes it gives me info like the three injured people thing. I can't respond back and I hear it almost once a phase.


Sophia @ 3/4/2013 16:52
Also it's too late to head east this time.


Lincoln @ 3/4/2013 17:01
*sits down by north door, closes eyes*


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 17:02
Whos entering first??


Peter Mallick @ 3/4/2013 17:02
Sophia @ 3/4/2013 16:52
Also it's too late to head east this time.

That's what I thought. It's unfortunate this idea came up too late. Oh well. I'll go take a nap then. :)


Andrael @ 3/4/2013 17:06
Taylor, I never knew you, but may your soul be at peace. Lincoln, good luck to you on the other side as I may not be around until the next phase, I hope to see you in one piece.


Tyrese @ 3/4/2013 17:08
Just a thought - but maybe the map being communicated to Sophia isn't by Pai Chan? I would imagine any sort of communication attempt would deal with voices, not images. Unless... it's Mark - and I say that because if I recall correctly he would always take pictures and was all about this social media craze, so maybe the sharing of an image is his ability to communicate? Just a thought.


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 17:21
:O Whats happening to Lincoln?? :((

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Maria @ 3/4/2013 17:24
Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 17:21
:O Whats happening to Lincoln?? :((

He's going North first and springing the trap there.


Maria @ 3/4/2013 17:25
Poor Taylor. :( But I guess it's better to die than be killed.


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 17:28
Lincoln you are very brave :)) You should be proud of yourself!! I am proud of you. I am way to afraid to ever do that!!


Willis @ 3/4/2013 17:44
The group readied themselves. It was time to move on.

Phase 8 will end in about an hour's time. Anybody who has not yet posted an exit action may do so. No other actions can be used, and no existing exit actions can be changed.


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 17:46
OMG!!


Dern @ 3/4/2013 17:49
ah ending a bit early this time.

I am ok with this.


Airlea @ 3/4/2013 18:06
Shame we can't throw Taylor's shoe (or Taylor) through first. :x


Brittany :)) @ 3/4/2013 18:08
Yeah cant we just throw his body in there first LOL??? Thats so mean!!


Dern @ 3/4/2013 18:13
Disturbing his dead body seems a bit... unseemly.

Best to let the dead rest.


Sophia @ 3/4/2013 18:38
##claims shoes

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