In phase 52 we where in 3673, Leos was two rooms south > 2953
Phase 53 we are in 2766, Leos obviously in 5643
Phase 54 we are in 1324 and Leos in 3745

Sooo he didnt move any further then usual Jeffrey, his movments match up with just 1 more per phase :)

Also im pretty sure he would have shot you already if he intended too

yes that is what I said Malarkey, but I think it still would be better if I held onto the vest for this phase since he's more likely to shoot me than you :P

Malarkey @ 23/5/2012 16:39

In phase 52 we where in 3673, Leos was two rooms south > 2953 Phase 53 we are in 2766, Leos obviously in 5643 Phase 54 we are in 1324 and Leos in 3745 Sooo he didnt move any further then usual Jeffrey, his movments match up with just 1 more per phase :)

umm that's not what I was saying at all :)

Im saying Leos can't be the killer cuz the killing happened 4 phases ago and he's 3 rooms away from the computer room. If he shot Klaus and killed Roth/Happy he'd be 4 rooms away right now

Jeffrey Fernandis @ 23/5/2012 16:56

Malarkey @ 23/5/2012 16:39 In phase 52 we where in 3673, Leos was two rooms south > 2953 Phase 53 we are in 2766, Leos obviously in 5643 Phase 54 we are in 1324 and Leos in 3745 Sooo he didnt move any further then usual Jeffrey, his movments match up with just 1 more per phase :) umm that's not what I was saying at all :) Im saying Leos can't be the killer cuz the killing happened 4 phases ago and he's 3 rooms away from the computer room. If he shot Klaus and killed Roth/Happy he'd be 4 rooms away right now

lol wait I said htat wrong. What I meant to say is that TWO phases after Klaus got shot, we were in room 3673 and LEOS was in 2953. But 2953 is 3 rooms away from the computer room

so basically my point is NOT that he's been moving abnormally the past few phases, but that he couldn't have been the killer

so... I just got a reply back from Willis and he says if twinsie were ever to come back to life he'd notify me that my role has changed back to CAIN. But my role never did change back...

so this seems to imply that this isn't twinsie at all! I don't get it though. If this is Patterson he's doing a ridiculously accurate impression and Willis is still writing the flavor as if it's the real Raking. There's something very fishy going on

Jeffrey Fernandis @ 23/5/2012 7:22

I asked him when he was resurrected and he says phase 45. Niney didn't Patterson tell you the list of alive ppl AFTER this phase and Raking wasn't on it?

I haven't finished reading this thread but stopping to address this - let me double check the phase. Raking definitely wasn't on the list.

Phase 45 was my last day talking to Patterson as Paco.

(Let me triple check my text files that I saved from talking with him to make sure he gave me the list during 45 and not 44.)

this is the last thing we've said to each other:

Raking Czair @ 23/5/2012 15:57

any idea who this jackass is?

Jeffrey Fernandis @ 23/5/2012 16:02

we have... some idea. If the killer is who we think it is, his name is Dr. Patterson and he floats around inhabiting dead bodies for a couple phases at a time. The reason we know this is that he's been in contact with us through the walkie before. He was inhabiting Hupu's corpse at one point and then Paco's corpse. He never did come off as very evil but he did say he needed some people dead... a very mysterious fellow he is

he's online but hasn't replied... he was replying to pretty much everything else until I said that. Dunno what to make of it. You'd think if this wasn't Patty he'd be more interested/inquisitive about this?

anyway I gotta go for a bit, should be back before the phase ends tho

"I am a player. I have a role, a win condition, even a fairly fleshed out little backstory..."

This suggests to me that yes, he would be getting flavor for every room. Not saying this is damning evidence against Raking actually being Raking. But either way - we have to kill this guy. Even if it is actually Raking he needs Jeffrey dead. And again there was this that really makes me think Roy is his final shell:

"The first body I took was Brock. Very dull, rather pointless. But that's my I chose him. I figured he would not be of any use later."

Here it is, and he gave the list to me on Phase 45. (No time stamp unfortunately.)

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Since I can't copy paste my list, I'll just remove all the names of the dead from the player roster. One moment... AlexORG Bryce Happy Helios Garabandia Jeffrey Fernandis Klaus Korru Leos Malarkey Mercator Ninefingers Randolph Carter Roth They're alive.

"He never did come off as very evil..."

I must have gravely understated his niceness. Yes, he was forthcoming and VERY chatty, but at the same time he never made himself out to be good at all. He wasn't even going to tell me about him and Wikey coming to kill me until I called him on it.

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If he rose from the grave, I would know about it. Every genuine revival is removed from my list. The times that the dead have started walking on their own, they stayed on my list. Wikey had never died until the turrets got him a few rounds ago. That was the first time he appeared on my list. He was always alive until that point. Names have only been removed 5 times all game, though when Helios blew himself up, I got to watch that. The list was never updated though. I assume he's the reviver and revived himself automatically?

He told me he would see death flavors while in spirit form, curious that he also saw the Helios thing. For the record I never even noticed the last question he asked there until now. I never answered it, but he was interested in Helios too. Hm.

ohhhh men

Donovan lives! and he's 4 rooms away from the computer room. That fits in with him being the killer. Im telling Raking to pull the trigger on him

unrelated, but after reading 1874's description again, that "ancient looking floor" with the staircases really makes me think that's the sword room. and I think that room's only 2 south of the computer room so we should be seeing it soon