So would that mean Bagshot's dead?

He's talking a lot.

Casting lots of suspicion on Alex. He wants me to hold on to the Talkie for three more phases, when he can talk to me again. Confirmed that's when he will find another dead body to allow him to communicate. He only talked to Alex as Bagshot and Hupu. Says the turrets killed Wikey and he was someone/something different altogether.

I started off believing him, but the more he talks the more it smells like shit. Alex I'm telling him I do not trust you. Seeing how hard he tries to get me to flip on you.

Whatever I'm talking to was also Eduardo at one point, prior to him being a Wendigo. It claims to have not originally been anyone. I asked where it originated and it said long dead before it was ever in this maze.

It got visibly offended when I called it Wendigo.

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 11:47

Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 19:42 So you were Bagshot? What happened to you while you were traveling with Wikey? You were one room away from us. In the shuttle room. You thought we only knew Bagshot was there. But I know you both were. Then between 4 and 8 AM Bagshot disappeared. Only Wikey remained. I feel like two of you (Bagshot, Wikey) be in cahoots together. Pincer attack. But I'm open ears because I've been wrong before. Wikey and I made a deal, suh, to attack your group. I won't deny that, suh. But Wikey proved to be very untrustworthy, suh, so I can't say I'm upset he's gone, suh. Axing my head off that round was the biggest indicator of that, suh. Since then, suh, I try to avoid Wikey.

Alex said "Bagshot" said "Wikey" had a hatchet, not an ax phases back. But I guess axing works in the context of hatcheting a head off, too.

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 12:05

Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 20:02 Hupu @ 11/5/2012 11:59 Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 19:55 Also why are people coming back to life unaided within turns of death? I've seen both G and MLWW stalking around. Every time someone dies, they're brought back. Except me. And maybe Natalie. I've taken a few bodies for my own, suh, but from what I can tell sometimes the dead start walking all on their own, suh. There also been a few genuine revivals, too, suh, but I don't know what's caused those. After Wikey axed me I've just been following him around and waiting for him to die, suh. I'm not a fan of having my plans ruined, suh. Otherwise I'm quite nice though, suh. Are you Dr. Patterson? What is your plan and how does Wikey's existence foil it? Especially seeing that he should be dead now according to you. Also you showed me that you contact him as Walter, I thought you said neither of the bodies were worthy of possession? Yes suh, Dr. Patterson. I don't really have a plan though, suh, I learned plans always fall though and its best to take things a phase at a time, suh.

oh men this just keeps getting weirder and weirder... (:

the story seems to fit with Wikey's claims for the most part, at least with what he said about Bagshot being Dr Patterson

It seems to be a game of them pointing at each other and crying foul. Once I ruined their surprise attack on us, they didn't know what to do so they had to split up and try to confuse us.

He is claiming the five that had their roles changed for evil are:

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 12:14

Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 20:10 So you wrote those notes in that lab? What is the Project Harrow?? No, suh. I found those notes myself too, suh, and was just as confused as you was, suh. That be Willis's lab, suh. The only reason my name was there was a cleared out file, suh. I think I know what Project Harrow was though, suh. I think it was the phase 15 event and the changed roles that came with it, suh. Jeff, Raking, Wikey, and two others had their win conditions changed, suh. I suspect it was Ublaz and Alex, suh. But I have no evidence of this, just theories, suh.

He also showed me the whole conversation between him and Alex - Alex you were definitely holding stuff back from me.

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 11:37

What I wanted to know about Alex, suh, was if he ever mentioned my offering your friend Ironface a medkit, suh. I had one, suh, and I offered as soon as I heard. I'll admit, suh, I wasn't actually going to give it away, suh, but his reactions didn't make no sense, suh. I told him the medkit would cure his friend of his muteness and poison both, suh, but he brushed me off. This been bothering me quite a bit, suh.

Not taking him at his word on that one instance, but several things you relayed to me you were removing parts of.

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 12:22

Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 20:15 Well the group already wants Ublaz dead on sight. Half of them, anyway. Care to share the theory on Alex? Yes, suh! The hacker, suh. Everything he been saying applied to your group, suh. As far as I can tell, everyone who was alive phase 32 in your group had claims proven besides Alex and Donovan, suh. That phase Donovan got accused of being the headhunter, suh, right after he winning the silence game. Whoever the hacker is, suh, they was trying to get him killed right after that. And if it was someone in your group, suh, the only one it could have been was Alex, suh. I don't think the hacker was always bad though suh, but everything he said since phase 15 made no sense to me, suh. They all inconsistent lies, suh. Ain't no one else who was still alive that knew enough to be making those lies, suh.

oh men that sounds accurate... twinsie and I obviously had our roles changed, and Wikey/ublaz pretty much were confirmed too

...Alex? You HAVE been very secretive about your role :/

Jeffrey Fernandis @ 11/5/2012 19:25

oh men that sounds accurate... twinsie and I obviously had our roles changed, and Wikey/ublaz pretty much were confirmed too ...Alex? You HAVE been very secretive about your role :/

this was at project harrow post :P

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 12:24

Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 20:22 Did Alex know you and Wikey were about to surprise attack us? Suh, I wouldnt have been able to resist posting that if he did. I wish I could say yes, suh, but I didn't trust him enough to tell him, suh. I considered it. But he don't seem to have a plan, suh. I don't trust him to not pull a Wikey, suh.

If he was a liar I think he would have said yes to this. As far as he knows Alex doesn't know about my scope, if everything Alex said was true.

A set of 14 footprints move in from the East and head North. A lone set of footprints then heads in from the East and heads North.

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 12:34

I been thinking the hacker a liar since he said he found Robert dead, suh. There only been a narrow window when Robert was dead, suh, about 3 phases. If the hacker was really on his own in that area, suh, he would have run into your group or Roth's group, suh.

Hupu @ 11/5/2012 12:34

Ninefingers @ 11/5/2012 20:32 I'm telling a majority of this to Jeff right now as he is the only one around. Since you listed him in the role changes, do you too think he is evil? No suh, I think he just had to kill his brother, suh.

I think he would have taken that opportunity to try to turn me on you, too Jeff.

Alex, you're the hacker, aren't you?