Ninefingers @ 20/4/2012 9:03

G'Morning Nats. I see I missed a crazy night. What so you think of dearest Jeffrey?

Good morning Niney. :) Yes, it was quite a night.

I'm not sure what to think. Overall, hiding stuff from the group when we have all worked so well all along isn't very reassuring. This also feels like info he would have wanted us to have *before* he was in a room with him. I realize he couldnt have possibly known it would happen so soon, but with rooms moving, etc. it was a chance at almost any given time.

Raking Czair @ 20/4/2012 3:35

also, if i die, when i die, you better fucking win twinsie. also, youre an asshole <3

This quote has been bothering me.

It feels like it can be taken 2 ways. If he dies, Jeff is supposed to win with any sane prisoner. But for whatever reason it doesn't feel like that's what he meant by it.

I watched the posts he liked and disliked and some of those (don't remember specifically which ones now) seemed odd to me as well.

I do however feel like Jeff did what was asked of him immediately, explaining his reason, and passing his inventory. Jeff has always been very high on my list of people I trust so I am not going to throw away 22 phases where he did nothing that would cause me to distrust him over this one phase but I still feel like we are missing some pieces to this story.

Did Jeff definitely pass the gun, though? I think Alex and I were the two that weren't around last night, and I think Jeff passed his gun to Alex. I mean, I saw where Jeff be saying he passed it, but he could be doing anything with it in his journal. I agree that something here isn't adding up. Czair said he didn't care if he won, he just wanted to help Jeff win. If the only thing keeping Jeff from winning was Czair being alive, he would have stayed here and let us be ending him.

I don't think our spin on Cain and Abel have to kill one another or it would have just happened, if one of the inhibited the other from winning, one of them wouldn't have walked away.

Or teleported, as it were.

Still, depending on what Czair passed Jeff, maybe one of them won't be walking away. I don't think Jeff has been around since that happened. If it's a primed grenade he could be, pardon my french, fucked.

Ninefingers @ 20/4/2012 9:33

Or teleported, as it were. Still, depending on what Czair passed Jeff, maybe one of them won't be walking away. I don't think Jeff has been around since that happened. If it's a primed grenade he could be, pardon my french, fucked.

I kind of expected it to be a grenade tbh.

A lot of this could have been avoided had he told us ahead of time.

While I'm on a roll sharing my thoughts I might as well get this out there too. I really don't like how open and trusting we are with anyone who comes into the group from the outside and think we need to get this under control before meeting anyone else. Frosti ran his mouth way to much and the clash of egos is going to destroy us. I'd have thought the Eduardo incident would have been a huge wake up call, but it doesn't look like it was.

Chair Definite Have Item
But G Fail Steal

Thank you for trying G

Kiwi @ 20/4/2012 6:24

Ninefingers @ 19/4/2012 23:15 (One more comment (as of only reading page 17) - I was the first to suggest we bring Raking here. Jeff was the second to back me up.) So Jeff was this your intent all along?

no not at all! I was actually hoping the machine would kill him :)

Kiwi @ 20/4/2012 6:34

Ninefingers @ 19/4/2012 23:32 I'd say the minute Frosti blabbed for G to steal his items he probably put in his teleport motion. He knew him hiding items wasn't going to go down very well. As a last bastion he threw up the Cain and Abel thing. I'm sorry, but I don't trust either twin at this point unless Jeffrey was just tossed a primed grenade. Yea that was extremely stupid of Frosti but as I said, add it to the list.

YES :|

I was so mad when Frosti said that cuz all night my plan was to kill him as soon as I could before he teleported. Frosti ruined everything with that

Ninefingers @ 20/4/2012 7:11

Other than with Frosti, I don't think Jeff has ever been in a position of distrust with the group. It's true that I don't know why he would feel he needed to hide that from us. He told us about the severing, if he told us why it was severed we would have been Abel (get it?) to rid him of his problem one room ago.

yes I truly regret not sharing this in hindsight. I just didn't like how similar my win condition was to what DRRR claimed so I didn't want you guys to distrust me. But in the end hiding it probably made you distrust me more then sharing it right away would of :-/

ALSO yes, he passed me a primed grenade :|

what do I do?

:( I'm not entirely sure how those even work. You have a certain amount of time to do something with it? It will only take one of your lives though? Ugh

Pass it to Eduardo!? (sorry, worth a shot...)

I have to pass it in the next 6 hours or it'll blow :(

But won't kill you, right?

depends if it's an unstoppable kill or not :-/

I know it might sound selfish but maybe WALTER could take the hit? cuz he can't use his extra life to go thru doors first like me or Frosti can

what time is it set to go off at?