And it would make no sense for the game to immediately end either. What about people like Roth, who have to fulfill secondary objectives to win? What if all of you guys leave, and it's just me and Roth left? We've got to go finish his objective before he can leave and win. That would just seem incredibly unfair to those of us who have separate win cons than you.

I suppose that they would just lose. I mean, if a bad guy had to kill everyone and escape alone to win, how can he possibly win if any of us escape? Do they lose and die leaving only you guys left? What about Roth needing the demon, if the demon is exiting with everyone else then I guess Roth loses, or we all lose. I'm not sure on that fact.

But the whole fact that the role says that if anyone sane escapes while we (most of us) are still alive, we automatically win.

Winning implies an end. A definite cut off to the game. A sort of membrane of success being pushed through that cannot be taken away.

I suppose it's possible you could win after this, but it would be after, trust me, I'm not letting you near the door before at least one of our people exits it, and then you can make your lonely walk to it... hell I'll even let you to the room right before the exit so you only have one room to walk through, but I'm for sure not putting you in the possibility to exit first.

I have no problems doing so. But I think you're incredibly wrong about the ending being abrupt. Hell, I'm glad that I don't win when other people leave, it makes me feel like I didn't do anything. I'm not playing this to win when someone else walks out the door. I want to get out myself.

Well ok. I'm glad we are in agreeance then, that are my only qualm with your role. But since you are ok with staying behind a phase at the end it's all good.

Like I said, I just have to get out. I don't have to get out with people, and I can get out after people. I just know that I don't win as soon as someone else steps outside, like everyone else.

Malarkey @ 26/4/2012 7:30

The map isnt really needed. We know where the key is and we know where the exit is. Rest is kind of irrelevent. Bagshot has the best map though so his decision.

Not giving us the map after the help I've given you would be kind of asshol-y you know?

I only have kept a shape map, not a number map. so I can't help you there, or else I would.

Klaus @ 26/4/2012 16:30

also brace yourself for next phase guys. It's possible room shifting will be a recurring thing. And if so, it's been 14 phases since phase 15.

maybe someone activated it...

it's possible. But I recall it being mentioned in the papers we found.

I have no reason to believe it's recurring, but if it does. We should be ready for it.

Roth @ 26/4/2012 10:15

Malarkey @ 26/4/2012 7:30 The map isnt really needed. We know where the key is and we know where the exit is. Rest is kind of irrelevent. Bagshot has the best map though so his decision. Not giving us the map after the help I've given you would be kind of asshol-y you know?

Also this. Pretty hurt that we explain the computer, give you all the number rooms, and then you guys are like

"Well we don't trust you so we don't want you to come with us, nor do we want to let you see a map. Fuck you guys."

Klaus @ 26/4/2012 10:23

it's possible. But I recall it being mentioned in the papers we found. I have no reason to believe it's recurring, but if it does. We should be ready for it.

Papers?

There was a room full of papers and notes in a table, I believe they were talking about it...

No I meant, what was in/on the papers.

I didn't write it down but I recall it being a count down to phase 15 and uh... it was talking about experimenting on people and how one of them wasn't human any more.

I really wish I had copied it, but I'm sure Bagshot did.

oh men I can't believe Kiwi and Frosti and James have all died since I left :( WTF happened?? Maybe Kiwi went crazy and killed Frosti and the group lynched him?

or maybe like someone said one or both of them is just offscreen... cuz Kiwi had a BP vest and Frosti had an extra life. It's hard to believe they BOTH died that quickly

Bagshot @ 26/4/2012 2:19

#2399 A purplish room appeared. The walls were covered in strange pods, some of them broken. On the floor a huge monstrous looking creature with four arms and a mass of white hair lay dead. Not too far from it was another corpse. It's arm was torn clean off. A corpse was slouched in the corner rather gorily. There was also a large, thick, solitary arm. Exits were to the North, South and West. #3237 A metal room appeared with metal walls and metal floors. It was very clinical looking. An eye looked out of a large box at the top of the room. It was squirming with something grey and disgusting. Exits were to the South and West. On the floor there were two corpses. #3745 A room appeared with a swampy looking floor. It was covered in undergrowth which was burnt away in places to reveal scorched metal beneath. A statue of a demon stood overlooking the swamp but was eroded severely in several places. Exits were to the North, East and South. There was a corpse laying on the ground. #4732 A deep red room appeared. In the middle of the floor lay the bloody remains of a corpse. There was no staircase visible. Exits were visible to the East and West. Here's the specific new corpses. Hey Jeff you were in 2399, what happened there? Also I'm betting 3237 has Frosti and Kiwi's bodies.

2399 should contain the wendigo's corpse, Leos's corpse, and MLWW's corpse. But it only sounds like there's one corpse besides the wendigo now? :S

Bagshot @ 26/4/2012 2:44

Jeff, your group was also in #9827. What was up with those two statues? They sound menacing but your group marked that room green.

lol they were just decoration. We tried to interact with them but nothing happened. They were just outside the chamber of souls

Malarkey @ 26/4/2012 7:30

The map isnt really needed. We know where the key is and we know where the exit is. Rest is kind of irrelevent. Bagshot has the best map though so his decision. I would kindly like to remind everyone what happened in the last game when the map of the maze was given to the wrong person Curtis got a map of the whole maze, fooled Henry into walking into a number of traps and found all the rest of the people in the maze and murdered them... Thus ending the game in a bad guy victory. I was already dead when this happened, but I wont be as stupid as those who where alive and stand idly by while the bad guys are given the means to win the game :D Nothing personal, just what I think is needed to be done to win the game.

no offense Malarkey but you DON'T know for sure where the key is, you just have a good lead... I don't know why you guys didn't use more of your questions to pinpoint exactly where the key was cuz for all you know the blue guard could of said "no" to all your questions regarding "is it in this row". My guess is it's even off the map like the subway

I hope your right and it's in the southeast corner but I think it's gonna be way more complicated to get that key then you seem to think