this seems straight forward to me. i chose to believe Henry

##lynch Mal

LMFAO die scum die

with cult probably still alive would the unknown mafia members really show themselves by messing with the vote?

mafia cant mess this up without showing who there other members are.

what happens if we get 7 on Patrick and 2 on Mal and there are also 2 on someone else? if it goes to sudden death then we just need to have 2 people on at the same time when Patrick is at L-1 so 1 can hammer then the other can change there vote.

Henry_42 @ 7/7/2014 16:13

what kind of a loophole bullshit is that?? we lynch mal majority and patrick dies, mal lives AND shawn lives we lynch patrick, but take a chance that town and cult dont have enough votes on mal or shawn to lynch them it seems this day is fucked then either way. with 4-5 mafia left plus 3 cult that leaves around only 4-5 town left. mafia can win tonight.

LMFAO, mafia cant win well Cult is alive.

KC @ 7/7/2014 16:31

Angi @ 7/7/2014 16:21 Henry_42 @ 7/7/2014 16:13 what kind of a loophole bullshit is that?? we lynch mal majority and patrick dies, mal lives AND shawn lives we lynch patrick, but take a chance that town and cult dont have enough votes on mal or shawn to lynch them it seems this day is fucked then either way. with 4-5 mafia left plus 3 cult that leaves around only 4-5 town left. mafia can win tonight. LMFAO, mafia cant win well Cult is alive. Yes they can.

why do you think this? there is nothing in the rules for this game that says either way. the cult and SKer need everyone else dead, as shown in there role reviles. there was no information on the mafia win condition when Drr flipped.

##unlynch
##lynch Patrick

Paco Smurf @ 7/7/2014 16:49

Angi, what I think KC is saying is that, if town dies tonight, we'll never be able to reach majority to take out mafia. Scum-3 players

so the choices are either pull off a lynch on Patrick well keeping the second most votes on Mal or we lynch Mal and hope Patrick is lying?

KC @ 7/7/2014 16:51

Angi @ 7/7/2014 16:45 KC @ 7/7/2014 16:31 Angi @ 7/7/2014 16:21 Henry_42 @ 7/7/2014 16:13 what kind of a loophole bullshit is that?? we lynch mal majority and patrick dies, mal lives AND shawn lives we lynch patrick, but take a chance that town and cult dont have enough votes on mal or shawn to lynch them it seems this day is fucked then either way. with 4-5 mafia left plus 3 cult that leaves around only 4-5 town left. mafia can win tonight. LMFAO, mafia cant win well Cult is alive. Yes they can. why do you think this? there is nothing in the rules for this game that says either way. the cult and SKer need everyone else dead, as shown in there role reviles. there was no information on the mafia win condition when Drr flipped. Once mafia control the day and the night, they win. If they gain a majority, they control the day because they control the lynch. If there is no chance of their majority being stopped at night, they win. Without a non-mafia killing role or faction, the mafia controls both the day and the night. Thus, they win. Patrick Clinger's minions can't do anything to stop that unless they have a factional kill.

ah yes, there is the actuality as opposed to the mathematical. i meant the game doesn't end when Mafia gets majority. they have to play it out and not make any mistakes.