If not Henry, then my focus would have to turn to Vic and Moose.

I think Henry is mafia btw and I believe there's 2-3 of them, hoping for 2.

Christian @ 18/9/2016 22:02

If not Henry, then my focus would have to turn to Vic and Moose. I think Henry is mafia btw and I believe there's 2-3 of them, hoping for 2.

I'm thinking 3 left, and maybe 3 cult, and 1 sk. so 7 scum vs 6 town (:

I actually haven't been around much at all besides at night for a little bit before sleeping. I get why people would think I'm lurking, but I don't know what to tell you! I should be around more today, but later this week is up on the air.

I need to reread day 5 because I basically just skimmed during the night phase, but here's my general thoughts:

I don't think it's all that suspicious that dr is still around. There have been bigger targets than a doctor who's been outted. Vladdy, Angi, and Ahoda are all bigger threats to a diminished mafia than a doctor. It's possible she's the godfather but I'm not really leaning that way.

As for suspicious, here's a post I wanna bring up, from Vic on Day 4:

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True, Ahoda's Curtis scan means he could be insane cop and Tim is actually town and real cop, but then why would he get a scum scan on Grim? Seems like a stupid move if he was actually scum because as soon as she flips he's done, he can't even claim insane cop anymore.

This is a really weird post. It's got all the makings of a reflecting on everything already said post, but then there's "why would he get a scum scan on grim?" And "as soon as she flips he's done" especially. Vic seemed to be assuming that either Tim was lying or Tim was wrong with his scan of Grim.

It feels like a slip to me. The impression I'm getting, especially after grim's flip, is that Vic knew grim wasn't on the Mafia team. His posts that day while staying on the cop were all really scummy but this one stands out to be

3 cult would mean Grim recruited N1, but I don't think that's likely.

I don't think we necessarily have a SK either. Igor was a reasonable Vig kill.

I think the number is closer to 2-3 mafia and 2 cult. 4-5 scum VS 7-8 town. This is why we need to go after mafia first and cult later, because cult doesn't have a factional kill.

Also, Ahoda was roleblocked by a roleblocker two nights ago. Curtis was the Mafia Roleblocker so that means the Town Roleblocker cockblocked the Insane Cop. I'm pretty sure this person was culted so when we get down to it later down the road, we have a lead on cult.

##Unlynch

##Lynch: Vic

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Why didn't we lynch Vic yesterday?

I have been telling you that Vic is scum for days now. Nice catch on that quote Boc.

##lynch Vic

I think KC could be scum too. His posts about cult yesterday were dumb and contributed to Herm getting lynched. Look at his #6 and #7 posts yesterday. One post he lynches Herm because he could be scum (poor reasoning) , next post he lists Dadd voters as potential cult. That wasn't helpful at all.

Re Moose: this is where I said Herm can't be both.

Also if he had paid attention, there is no way that shadow is cult. If anyone is then it's Dr but it has no priority with obv scum out there.

I guess it would have been handy knowing who Dadd's lover was after all (:

Dr who is scum?

Christian @ 18/9/2016 23:40

That last minute switch from Henry to Herm and everyone pushing for Dadd to be lynched yesterday had to be one of the scummiest days I've ever experienced. I'm kinda surprised at the lack of reflection. Moose @ 18/9/2016 22:21 It looks like Dadd was telling the truth. I was coming into this day thinking that if Ahoda and Dadd were both still alive, that one or both were scum. Can we please stop having these thoughts that people are scum? If you're town, this is not a logical argument. If Dadd and Igor had not died today then you're saying your thought process would made you think his Lover claim was scum? If there's several town claims out in the open, why think they are scum just because they're not dead? It's not like scum can kill every one at once. I'm starting to wonder if you or Vic are scum after yesterday? My top suspects for mafia right now are you, Vic and Henry. Moose @ 18/9/2016 22:21 Mafia is more of a threat because of their factional kill, but I feel like chasing down a potential cult recruit is our best option today with no other leads. Nofo and Dr are pretty good bets, and Dr fits both potential Mafia and potential Cult. But the town has to have a doctor, right? If Dr is the doctor, then the GF is still out there. Town watcher, tracker, cop and insane cop were higher priorities than a doctor who might save someone if they choose the correct target so it's not really a surprise that she's still alive at this point. KC @ 18/9/2016 20:38 I know I have said this before but I don't know how dr isn't the godfather or recruited cult. If Dr is Godfather then the Doctor would have counterclaimed by now. We have lynched too many town back 2 to back for her to be mafia. I think it's possible she could've been recruited and if that's the case it's possible it happened N2, but I have doubts about it since she was an obvious lynch/night kill target after her claim. Also, this need to go after cult no matter the cost is not town behavior. If someone claims a role why is the first instinct to think that person is scum and fakeclaiming? This seems to literally be the case with all the claimed roles we've had so far. There were some really shady posts from the end of D5 that I read back on. I'll go through the scummiest parts. :P Vic All caught up. Dadd claimed suicidal lover and convienently has his lover be inactive? Possible, I hate risking losing two townies... but it's also shady af. Vic seems to be on both sides of the fence regarding Dadd's claim in this post. Vic Henry... pretty much inactive, but people think he's scummy why? He hasn't been online for like the past two rounds. I'm all down for inactives going, but with both scum and cult in the game I don't want to give them even more rounds to commit kills or regroup. This is a weird post. The fact that I think Henry decided began to stay under the radar after three mafia kills in a row, makes this post all the more shady to me. Vic also showed up after Henry started to get more votes and began to spread doubt.

Hey Christian, forgive me for having thoughts, yeah? And for doubting myself at the end of the day yesterday. I had to make a choice. Why did you choose Henry in particular yesterday? I can get behind a Vic lynch BTW.

Cool Girl @ 19/9/2016 1:02

I think KC could be scum too. His posts about cult yesterday were dumb and contributed to Herm getting lynched. Look at his #6 and #7 posts yesterday. One post he lynches Herm because he could be scum (poor reasoning) , next post he lists Dadd voters as potential cult. That wasn't helpful at all. Re Moose: this is where I said Herm can't be both. Also if he had paid attention, there is no way that shadow is cult. If anyone is then it's Dr but it has no priority with obv scum out there.

I'm not sure if you're referring to me or KC here, but I don't think Shadow is cult.

Moose @ 19/9/2016 5:26

Cool Girl @ 19/9/2016 1:02 I think KC could be scum too. His posts about cult yesterday were dumb and contributed to Herm getting lynched. Look at his #6 and #7 posts yesterday. One post he lynches Herm because he could be scum (poor reasoning) , next post he lists Dadd voters as potential cult. That wasn't helpful at all. Re Moose: this is where I said Herm can't be both. Also if he had paid attention, there is no way that shadow is cult. If anyone is then it's Dr but it has no priority with obv scum out there. I'm not sure if you're referring to me or KC here, but I don't think Shadow is cult.

To KC.

Moose @ 18/9/2016 22:21

Whoever attacked Igor was probably trying to do the town a favor by removing an inactive from the picture. Because if Dadd had been attacked, Igor would still be alive?

How does this make any sense? It's typically pretty easy to swing a lynch vote towards an inactive. If you don't believe me look back to several days in this game already.

Christian @ 18/9/2016 23:40

If Dr is Godfather then the Doctor would have counterclaimed by now. We have lynched too many town back 2 to back for her to be mafia. I think it's possible she could've been recruited and if that's the case it's possible it happened N2, but I have doubts about it since she was an obvious lynch/night kill target after her claim. Also, this need to go after cult no matter the cost is not town behavior. If someone claims a role why is the first instinct to think that person is scum and fakeclaiming? This seems to literally be the case with all the claimed roles we've had so far. There were some really shady posts from the end of D5 that I read back on. I'll go through the scummiest parts. :P

This guy gets it. If dr was lying and had been allowed to live this long by the real doctor it would just hurt us as it would allow whatever her real role is to be utilized during this entire stretch. Also, lynching anyone that is not town (that means cult OR mafia) needs to be our focus.