'sup my dudes. I'm here.

I'm glad TIB died and there wasn't any death from town. Pretty surprising tbh. Now it comes the hardest part because I don't think scum are going to fuck up as massively as the other two did and we might be dealing with some cult left or SK.

Quick question before catch up, are stuff like fakeclaims normally provided for third parties or scum?

JJ @ 5/7/2018 19:21

Christian's not lying.

Not lying about what exactly?

JJ @ 5/7/2018 22:57

SilverKeith @ 5/7/2018 21:54 JJ @ 5/7/2018 19:21 Christian's not lying. Not lying about what exactly? Seb was saying he didn't believe Christian's story that he helped someone the other night. I was saying Christian isn't lying about that.

I'm mean if you tracked Christian I can get you saying that but I don't see how you could determine he actually "helped" them.

Christian, I have one question. I'll know if you lie to me. Who did you use your action on last night?

Christian @ 5/7/2018 23:01

Nobody. I don't have a night action.

Then how did you exactly "helped" someone a couple of nights ago???

I don't get it still. I don't get how Buffy exactly knows about the help part.

Christian @ 5/7/2018 23:04

so SK, am I lying? :P

I don't know I was bluffing. I was kinda hoping you admiting to kill TIB and thus being a SK tbh.

JJ @ 5/7/2018 23:04

SK, you said you think you affected my results and I obviously don't want you to reveal what you're not comfortable revealing, but do you think that was a one time thing?

This just in: I don't know how my actions works. I'm acting blindly. I said it MIGHT have affected you, but I don't actually know. It was just an hypothesis, thought it would maybe make sense with the nature of my object. It still might hold value or it might be me fucking up.

TIB still was scum but I wouldn't be so sure he watched Curtis. If he did, then why the fuck did he lie about it?

I'm on the Christian town boat still. I mean I was before just wanted to make sure and the bluff was whatever

In any case not dying at night seems like 3p but ¿¿?? nothing to do about it. Worry about Christian in an f5/f3 or something

JJ @ 5/7/2018 23:09

SilverKeith @ 5/7/2018 22:07 Christian @ 5/7/2018 23:04 so SK, am I lying? :P I don't know I was bluffing. I was kinda hoping you admiting to kill TIB and thus being a SK tbh. JJ @ 5/7/2018 23:04 SK, you said you think you affected my results and I obviously don't want you to reveal what you're not comfortable revealing, but do you think that was a one time thing? This just in: I don't know how my actions works. I'm acting blindly. I said it MIGHT have affected you, but I don't actually know. It was just an hypothesis, thought it would maybe make sense with the nature of my object. It still might hold value or it might be me fucking up. TIB still was scum but I wouldn't be so sure he watched Curtis. If he did, then why the fuck did he lie about it? I get it - that's why I started doubting my results. I was wondering why TIB would lie about it. BUT, the fact he was mafia and he had that action makes me believe he flat out lied because why would he not use it? Unless, he was sent for the kill N1 instead. But even then, he wouldn't have stayed home so since he knew I was tracker, idk why he lied like that. That said, I did not get a Curtis result last night.

Huhhh... I don't get the " he was sent for the kill n1 instead". Isn't the scumkill separated from scum individual actions/roles?

I think the only reason he'd have to lie is to protect Curtis over an association read but that is ¿¿¿??? because he got fucking killed lol.

Don't tell me what you got last night unless you think is relevant. Otherwise you might catch someone lying. I wanna know if Jackie has something to say today btw.

I'm inclined to believe 317 role. His role still doesn't make him town.

Does bussing falls into Curtis meta?

JJ @ 5/7/2018 23:17

It depends on the host but usually, if mafia has an action, they can either be sent for the kill or use their action. This is a different kind of game, though, with some unique roles... so idk if that would be the case. I'm still kind of thinking he could either use his action or go for the kill, though. Also, I was thinking maybe TIB was blocked and thought I couldn't track him? Or maybe he just answered under pressure without thinking about it. idk...

Huh. If that's how it is on this site it seems reasonable it's kept the same way for the sake of consistency.

TIB being blocked seems reasonable but why wouldn't he claim it? This smells purple.

K so there are 13 people alive. 12 if you don't count me.

I am not taking people who might have been culted into account but I think we should set on something regarding that matter today. Also not taking into account a possible SK since that would be harder to fit from a reasoning perspective.

CLEAN PILE: There's at most 1 scum here, but possibly 0. Never 2.
JJ-Josh-Christian.

SEMI CLEAN PILE: Possibly one scum. People that have been townie in some sense but due to shenanigans they might be wolfing.
Vladi - Jackie - Seb

QUESTIONABLE PILE: Likely one scum here if not more. People who I've had trouble sorting for X or Z reasons
Merc - Curtis - Badger

SCUM PILE: Have shown scumtraits, or almost nothing to lead me to believe in them being townie, If there isn't scum on this pile I'm retiring.
Ahoda - DR - 317

JJ @ 5/7/2018 23:22

lol what does purple smell like?

Wish I knew. Maybe I'll find out someday

317 action on TIB makes sense from the standpoint of "Knowing" there's an SK and that SK possibly wanting to kill TIB to reduce town numbers.

Thing is, up until today I'd had say there wasn't any SK (aside from me, lol). I think it mostly shows today over the number of kills.

And even then, that action also makes sense from a scum standpoint of wanting to get rid of a possible SK.

JJ @ 5/7/2018 23:33

What puts Josh in your CLEAN PILE? Why isn't Jackie in your CLEAN PILE?

I'm soulreading Josh as town since D1 and have stated this and my reasons over it several times. In general, willingness to solve the game, easygoing with thread, I like where his reads stands etc.. Even then, I think he might have been culted. If I'm being honest yeah he's more leaning to the semiclean pile but I wanted to put 3 people onto each lol.

Because I've disliked Jackie participation and I'm wary of clearing someone just based on night actions. What actions has Jackie claimed to have done every night? Sorry if I missed this I think I remember her talking about this lol.

DR from TV @ 5/7/2018 23:34

im317 is the scum in the scum pile case closed

K. Let's say he is.

Who are the others then? I'm pretty sure that either scum is willing to vote for 317 here if they aren't already.