I'm disappointed at the people who gave up Town Vanilla. lol

This is an interesting setup. There's lots to be looked at on Day 1, but at this point, it's all still going to be speculation. Why would someone give up a powerful role? Was their second option a better one? I don't think we should automatically assume that because someone gave up a mafia role, that they don't have another mafia role, and same for Townies or Werewolfs or Aliens, and whatever other factions are in there.

These should be all the roles minus the ones that were discarded.

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Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Watcher Tracker Tracker Deputy Cop Cop Lover Seer Seer FBI Agent Doctor Doctor Roleblocker Jailkeeper Bodyguard Vigilante One-shot Vigilante One-shot Dayvig One-shot Dayvig Compulsive Childkiller Bulletproof Townie Supersaint One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner Mason Mason Mason Mason Mason Doctor Mason Lover Lover Lover Lover Jack-of-all-trades Vengeful Townie Retired Werewolf Hunter Retired Marine Miller Hirsute Townie Evangelistic Townie Tentacled Townie Watchlisted Townie Universal Miller Black Goo Ascetic Townie Private Investigator Gravedigger Nymphomaniac One-shot Governor One-shot Unlynchable Townie Town Godfather Innocent Child Hider Enabler Treestump Conspiracy Theorist Conspiracy Theorist Conspiracy Theorist One-shot Kingmaker Weak Jailkeeper Bloodhound Vanilla Cop Hero Tourist Nurse One-shot Commuter Cop-of-all-Trades One-shot Gladiator Lynchbait Psychiatrist Judas Saulus Underdog Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Godfather Mafia Tracker Mafia Doctor Mafia Roleblocker Mafia Lover Mafia Seer Mafia One-shot Dayvig Mafia One-shot Governor Mafia Strongman Mafia Reflexive Doctor Hirsute Goon Mafia Cupid Alpha Goon Mafia Compulsive Hider Werewolf Werewolf Werewolf Werewolf Alpha Werewolf Werewolf Roleblocker Werewolf One-shot Bulletproof Werewolf Cop Werewolf Mason Werewolf Watcher Werewolf FBI Agent Ninja Werewolf Werewolf One-shot PGO Werewolf Miller Werewolf Supersaint Werewolf Godfather Werewolf Gravedigger Alien One-shot Unlynchable Alien Prober Alien Vanillaiser Alien Silencer Bulletproof Alien Lover Alien Psychotrooper Alien Mass Redirector Alien Bloodsucker Alien Sympathiser Survivor Compulsive Bodyguard Survivor Survivor Mason Lyncher Lyncher Serial Killer Serial Killer Serial Killer Serial Killer One-shot Cult Recruiter Cult One-shot Goomaker

Also, I agree with Herm. :P

We should probably look at the people who discarded powerful Town roles first. But like I said before, we shouldn't just assume they can't still be Town. Although there are a couple I'm curious about, Curtis included.

Also, the Vanillas. I get it. No special abilities makes the game less interesting for you. So there's got to be at least one of those people who opted to take a scum role instead. But it's all just speculation. We should definitely uses these lists as a guide, but I think they will be more helpful down the road.

JJ @ 13/1/2015 12:16

Christian, your role seems like it was pretty powerful.

It was something about submitting a name each night and being told whether I suspected that person was an Alien. I didn't know if Aliens were the villains or if they were third party or what. But I would also scan as an Alien, so I opted to not take one. I already come off scummy enough as it is. lol

JJ @ 13/1/2015 12:31

Kru @ 13/1/2015 12:24 Christian @ 13/1/2015 19:17 Also, the Vanillas. I get it. No special abilities makes the game less interesting for you. So there's got to be at least one of those people who opted to take a scum role instead. But it's all just speculation. We should definitely uses these lists as a guide, but I think they will be more helpful down the road. I would pick any role over vanilla any day. It's a no brainer that people would choose any town role over vanilla. There could also be some people that took a scum vanilla role over a powerful town role just for playing the alignment they want. It's totally random. :/ Yeah I agree and I think it's ridiculous of Christian to say that one of the people who discarded town vanilla must be mafia. With 139 possible roles that's reaching a lot. Not only do I not think you can boil it down that easily but, it doesn't even make any sense. I would be more inclined to think someone who discarded a mafia role may have had two to choose from. But again, so random and no way to tell.

Yes, that is what I'm saying though. There's no way to know for sure based on these roles and the discard list. But it will be very helpful down the line.

And you should know by now that I'm going to throw a whole bunch of theories out there. :P

Moose, if you're actually Vanilla (and I'm leaning towards that atm), why would you even claim this early? That's not how a Vanilla Townie should play. :P You almost want to get yourself killed at night to protect a Power Role. Now the people who can kill at night, will likely leave you alone.

what is Jeff lying about?

I don't think Moose is scum, but tying the vote right now to save her is not something I'd like to do.

I mean, I don't think she's scum, but she could be. Is losing a Town Vanilla is better than no lynch?

Do we still have time to make that happen?

Ari @ 14/1/2015 10:04

Christian @ 14/1/2015 14:59 I mean, I don't think she's scum, but she could be. Is losing a Town Vanilla is better than no lynch? Well you should lynch someone you think is scum. A no lynch is the worst possible outcome.

Right. But I thought we were out of time and Moose had 3 votes. A couple of others had 2. I didn't want to join one of those trains and tie the vote.

I don't think Moose is scum. I think it was stupid to claim Vanilla with no reason to at all. That doesn't help Town in any way. But I kind of feel like she's still new enough to not realize that that was a mistake? I could be wrong, and am not totally against seeing what happens if she's lynched actually.

Also, where's my good friend, Chris? :P

There's 2 on Jeff, 2 on Tricks, 2 on Curtis right now.