I think this means we no longer have a cult. Yay!

Nofo, don't we have 20 alive?

Oh, forgot about Tim. Whoops.

Is there even a cult in the first place?

Another detail that I just noticed: Drrr has survived another attack. We already have a decent explanation for this, but what that means is that there were three different people who attempted to make a kill last night, so we have mafia, a slayer, and someone else.

I meant we have a good explanation for her survival but not for what role would attack her. Maybe cult can kill in this game too? If I'm reading the role correctly, the vampire mentor/me tee faction can't make a kill attempt on a recruit night.

So let's get all the factions down:

Town
Mafia
Vampire Mentor (defunct)
Cult
SK?

It would be really weird if there were 5 factions.

I'm really not seeing what people see that's scummy in Herm. Maybe it's just that I'm not remembering what people's complaints are, but his activity and desire to know what's going on seem alright to me.

Although Greenday's claim is getting weirder as the days pass, I still think there's space for it to be an actual role and not just an ever-increasingly complex lie.

Vernon is doing a lot of sitting back and pointing fingers. "Maybe it's you? Oh, but what if it's this guy. Holy shit, it could be her!" Implied in all that: "It's certainly not me! No way could it ever be me."

##lynch Vernon

That was based on the train to save him, not his actions in and of themselves.

I didn't know what to think because my mafia experience in the past on other forums have usually involved such a slow pace of play (three day long or more threads) with activity that didn't tend to get the thread counts up nearly to where they are now that most mafia games were a matter of figure out which roleclaims didn't add up after we had a few days' worth of info. I'm new to the whole "town/scum reads" style of gameplay and it's left me feeling a little swamped with how much activity is going on. If you want, after I'm done cooking dinner I can go back through and form reads and post them, but I'm really just posting whatever comes to my head as a possible contribution. I had honestly forgotten that I had even voted Herm the day before, just like I forgot about Greenday's claim of his role doing something with the cult when I had asked if there was a cult.

Herm, that's already what Tim's role was. I sincerely doubt that the vig is so important for balance reasons that there would be two backups.

##unlynch
##lynch Herm

I think it's really weird, now that I think about it, that Herm would claim a role that someone else had already claimed without mentioning how weird that was at all, and then retreat from the thread. Almost like he wants to be lynched. That's an anti-town role, though, right?

Buffy/JJ, I meant that someone whose win condition is to get lynched is an anti town role.

The thing is, both backups can't take over simultaneously. That would either have to be covered explicitly or through invisible text, and I find invisible text unlikely since it would directly contradict the visible text.

Once again, Herm's train is derailed. Take note.