Cool, so Sock is SK. Got it.

I'm now intrigued about TIB's survival. What's up with that?

Stocking @ 28/12/2017 22:04

I am 1 time BP vig and I was RBd last night. I targeted Chris last night because the Ouija board of f-words told me to. It benefits town of it goes through. Obviously

I'll give you this: your claim is highly creative! (:

Buffy @ 28/12/2017 22:10

So, the fact that Lamps was a role cop makes it seem like there are two mafias.

The whole Two Mafia thing is something I've been thinking about. The Kids Table people and the In-Law people seem to have the same wincon (gain the majority/eliminate all threats to their faction), so does this mean they're both scumteams? And if so, would that mean there's no Vig at all? Assuming Sock is SK, that gives us two faction kills + SK kill. Which would mean 1)there's no Vig and 2)some faction tried to kill SK Sock to set up a Vig claim. Unless one of the factions doesn't have a nightkill, in which case we could have factionkill + SK kill + Vig kill, which would make sense.

Trying to figure this one out...

Sebta Claus @ 28/12/2017 22:50

So looking at kills again, in-light of Lamps' flip and assuming In-laws is a second mafia. As always qualifiers are to be assumed. I am not stating any of this as fact. N1 - 3 kills brian - In-law or Kids Cultis - Sock claimed this. Ahoda - Vig/SK If Sock is SK we seem to be missing a kill here. N2 - 4 kills Christian - Hid behind Lamps Ben - Vig or In-laws or Kids vlady - Sock claimed this Patrick - Vig or In-laws or Kids Again if Sock is SK we seem to be missing a kill again N3 - 3 kill/attempts Zersch - In-laws or kids. Hopefully Vig wasn't dumb enough to shoot Zersch here but it looks pretty clear that Vig shot Sock TiB - In-laws or kids. Sock - Vig Sock claims to have been blocked. So there were 3 kill attempts outside of Sock. Something doesn't add up here.

A. Sock is actually a one-shot BP vig
B. Sock is a member of one of the scumteams (maybe the In Laws' equivalent of 'Nilla Maf Ahoda?)
C. Sock is SK, and one of the scumteams targeted him N3 for Town cred
D. Sock is SK, and there is no Vig

Sebta Claus @ 28/12/2017 23:02

Helios Garabandia @ 28/12/2017 19:59 Sebta Claus @ 28/12/2017 22:50 So looking at kills again, in-light of Lamps' flip and assuming In-laws is a second mafia. As always qualifiers are to be assumed. I am not stating any of this as fact. N1 - 3 kills brian - In-law or Kids Cultis - Sock claimed this. Ahoda - Vig/SK If Sock is SK we seem to be missing a kill here. N2 - 4 kills Christian - Hid behind Lamps Ben - Vig or In-laws or Kids vlady - Sock claimed this Patrick - Vig or In-laws or Kids Again if Sock is SK we seem to be missing a kill again N3 - 3 kill/attempts Zersch - In-laws or kids. Hopefully Vig wasn't dumb enough to shoot Zersch here but it looks pretty clear that Vig shot Sock TiB - In-laws or kids. Sock - Vig Sock claims to have been blocked. So there were 3 kill attempts outside of Sock. Something doesn't add up here. A. Sock is actually a one-shot BP vig B. Sock is a member of one of the scumteams (maybe the In Laws' equivalent of 'Nilla Maf Ahoda?) C. Sock is SK, and one of the scumteams targeted him N3 for Town cred D. Sock is SK, and there is no Vig I feel like in a game which seems to have 2 Mafia teams, Town would have a Vig too for balance.

Fair point. So, if we assume there IS a vig, then we're missing a kill N1 and N3 (or the same person was targeted more than once in both N1 and N3)?

Tattooed Tooth @ 29/12/2017 14:36

Spin, since we have 2 factions and we probably have 2 specific cops (if DS' role truly is in-cop law), I wonder if it makes any sense you be scanned as scum for both... Simultaneously appearing as in-law and kids' table, that's very weird >.>

I guess this would depend on if both factions are Mafia or not. If both factions are Mafia, then Spin's claim doesn't work, and he's lying scum (since Miller scans as Mafia-aligned, he'd have to specifically scan as one of the Mafia factions).

Spin @ 29/12/2017 14:54

With 2 mafias, we shouldn't just "policy lynch" or "deal with" or waste a day lynching a town number.

We shouldn't just "policy lynch" anyone. At any time. For any reason. Shit Town is still Town, after all.

Spin @ 29/12/2017 16:35

Helios Garabandia @ 29/12/2017 15:31 Tattooed Tooth @ 29/12/2017 14:36 Spin, since we have 2 factions and we probably have 2 specific cops (if DS' role truly is in-cop law), I wonder if it makes any sense you be scanned as scum for both... Simultaneously appearing as in-law and kids' table, that's very weird >.> I guess this would depend on if both factions are Mafia or not. If both factions are Mafia, then Spin's claim doesn't work, and he's lying scum (since Miller scans as Mafia-aligned, he'd have to specifically scan as one of the Mafia factions). I scan as guilty, not mafia-aligned.

You've said this already. I'm saying that Millers don't scan as Guilty. They scan as Mafia.
(and they certainly can't visit anyone, either)

Spin @ 29/12/2017 17:26

Sebta Claus @ 29/12/2017 16:24 Spin @ 29/12/2017 14:23 Unless these mods decided to take a page out of Curtis' book, there is likely a real cop-type role out there (beyond DS) to make my role have purpose. DS + other cop = 2 cop roles If there is a "REAL" cop out there, then DS' role is redundant no? Why would there be a regular cop and one specifically for In-laws? In-laws might be a cult-like faction? Maybe the mods wanted 1.5 cop roles. I have no idea, because I'm not the mods.

Is there anything specific that would make the In Laws a cult faction over Kids Table?

im317 @ 29/12/2017 18:16

Helios Garabandia @ 29/12/2017 17:34 Spin @ 29/12/2017 14:54 With 2 mafias, we shouldn't just "policy lynch" or "deal with" or waste a day lynching a town number. We shouldn't just "policy lynch" anyone. At any time. For any reason. Shit Town is still Town, after all. its not the player so much as the role. its the easiest and one of the most common fake claims by scum. i don't advocate lynching it over other better reads, but if we have a day when there are no good leads then i feel its a better lynch then say defaulting to an inactive.

When I hear policy Lynch, I'm always interpreting that as fuck this guy he needs to get die. And you know that's a thing that I am not a fan of. I'll never be a fan of that.

Besides TIB, who really needs to explain this shit, who else no-showed this day?

DsssssssS @ 29/12/2017 19:09

I kinda hate that FE has no concept of a CFD

Ahahaha FUCK outta here with that CFD shit tbqh (:

Do we have updated votals?

Mads @ 29/12/2017 19:46

I love how so many people treat mafia like it's a job and they're professionals and get all serious and dickish. It kinda makes me lol...It's supposed to be fun.

IF you think this is serious and dickish, you should see some of the places I've played!

J A M I E @ 29/12/2017 19:59

is this game still shitty or has it been better?

A lot of actual Mafia has happened today! You should check it out!