Okay, during N1, there were three kills. Two of them were dead scum.
N2, there were four kills. One dead scum.

We picked up an extra kill. I wonder if it's because Christian hid behind scum, or if someone let loose a one-shot, or some kind of even night killer, or something like that.

Herm @ 26/12/2017 21:53

Good catch Rose! Not sure what that means regarding Chris.

What's this about Chris?

DsssssssS @ 26/12/2017 21:54

Sebta Claus @ 26/12/2017 18:52 Gonna make a list of the deaths so far. All these are assumptions and theories. I am not stating any as fact. Any qualifiers like "probably" "maybe" "possibly" are to be assumed when I list all these. N1 brian - Mafia kill. Cultis - Vig or SK Ahoda - Vig or SK N2 Christian - Hid behind scum or one of vlady/Patrick vlady - Mafia/ Vig/ SK Ben - Vig/SK Patrick - Mafia/Vig/SK Looks to be the case most likely. Idk why people keep thinking the n1 mafia kill went through when the goon was killed

Why wouldn't the kill go through if the goon was killed? Assuming the goon was the one sent to kill (which we have no way to 100% know for sure), shouldn't all kills resolve themselves simultaneously? Or is that just my hosting style?

Darkus Black @ 26/12/2017 22:03

DsssssssS @ 27/12/2017 3:01 Darkus Black @ 26/12/2017 18:59 DsssssssS @ 27/12/2017 2:55 Darkus Black @ 26/12/2017 18:53 Darkus Black @ 27/12/2017 2:45 Oops. Looks like the whole nofo thing was wrong. Back to the drawing board. Can anyone tell me what role could possibly send a message to someone in the night? Or would that be game specific? Friendly Neighbor? Depends on the message I guess It was quite a friendly message I guess. It hinted at their being scum on the Jake train on day 1. Could have been speculation. I don’t know enough about roles to know if it clears a person or not. Thats not a friendly neighbor role. Could be a standalone role or an item maybe? Im not sure Ok. Had anyone else got anything to add to this?

Could just be some kind of messenger. It's weird, because most messenger/reporter type roles result in the hostie giving an anonymous message publically to all, not privately to one. Alternately, jailkeepers can sometimes talk to the people they are jailkeeping, but you didn't describe being jailkept...

Buffy @ 26/12/2017 22:03

Opinions on who looks most like a possible vig kill out of Vlady, Ben or Patrick? Just curious.

Vlady > Ben > Patrick in order of likelihood to me.

thisisbad @ 26/12/2017 22:48

I know when I modded you could investigate a hider but I dunno

When I host, investigating a hider would be acceptable.

Primate @ 26/12/2017 23:44

thisisbad @ 26/12/2017 22:34 Are u drunk? Spins last post yesterday was about Stevie Miller.

There are a couple of Spin's posts towards the end of D2 that are hinting things. But I'm slow (and sleepy!), so I'm not picking up what he's putting down yet.

Lamps @ 27/12/2017 9:09

Also I have nothing to hide so I don’t really mind one way or another. I’m PGO. Christian visited me, he died, and it’s not because of HIS role but because of mine. That’s what I make of it since I wasn’t notified of anything.

Hmmm...surprise, surprise. You claimed the one Town role that would fit in this situation. Of course, it's also a role that is impossible for anyone else to investigate, making it the perfect safeclaim for caught scum to claim.

Not putting a vote on you yet because I don't know votals and I don't want to hammer the day yet. But I'm not buying this claim. At all.

Spin @ 27/12/2017 10:00

For those of you too lazy to do anything, I'm Town Miller. I didn't think it likely that there would be two negative town roles in the game, so put that claim with all the other BS Nofo was spewing, and it was an easy choice. I also get to visit one person a night, but I don't know who I'm searching for or what will happen if I find them. My luck, I was searching for Patrick, and now I'm just a damn fool wandering around at night. So far I visited Buffy and Helios.

Miller is also a perfect claim for scum to claim, as it gives a reason for why you'd scan anti-Town. Also, why are you claiming Town Miller AND also claiming that you get to visit someone? That's two different roles. And how is your searching role different than what Patrick flipped?

DsssssssS @ 27/12/2017 12:32

Couple things: why wouldn't lamps be told that his one shot pgo was used? That seems like something the mods would tell you if you had a passive one shot role, no? 2) would a hider die by pgo?

1) I've never seen a host not reveal to a player when a X-shot role was used up. That would seem very bastard mod to me.
2) I've been wondering this as well. It's probably another host-related thing. Personally, I wouldn't have killed the hider, because I don't consider hiding to be a visit that would trigger a PGO. But again, I host very differently than most of you, so yeah.

*waits for Sock to reply to Buffy*

Stocking @ 27/12/2017 14:46

HellI vigged Cultis D1 based on cultis and vigged vlady after not being here most of d2 and n2 based on statistics only. If I didn't vig, i feared primate would unfollow me on linked in.

Did you have the ability to NOT vig N2?

Sebta Claus @ 27/12/2017 15:03

To ME, Ahoda looked more like the Vig kill N1. But yeah the claim was expected. And this goes without saying but if Sock is lying, real Vig shouldn't out themselves imo. If Sock isn't lynched then he should just be night killed by the real Vig.

If Sock is lying about being Vig, then I'd assume Sock is SK, given that he killed Mafia Curtis N1. I wonder if a SK has any nightkill protections in this game...

Stocking @ 27/12/2017 15:08

Helios Garabandia @ 27/12/2017 20:02 Stocking @ 27/12/2017 14:46 HellI vigged Cultis D1 based on cultis and vigged vlady after not being here most of d2 and n2 based on statistics only. If I didn't vig, i feared primate would unfollow me on linked in. Did you have the ability to NOT vig N2? Never asked. I was given the ability to kill and therefore, I killed. Worked out for my fellow townies n1.

I ask because you said you weren't here most of D2 and N2 and you made your kill choice based on "statistics only". Which makes me wonder: should a vig have killed if they weren't around to know what was happening?

Also, what are these "statistics" you used?

Herm @ 27/12/2017 15:34

Seems like Sock is probably not Mafia based on all the lynch votes he's getting.

...how do you figure?