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Post #1: 2nd Feb 2017 7:53 PM 
So, I missed nearly all of D1. It seems like it was as much of a clusterfuck as normal. But one post stuck out to me from close to the end of the day:

Darkus
##unlynch

##lynch Vernon in case he is scum and people go after the people who didn't vote for him.


I get that Vernon was the inactive D1 lynch. Which....whatever. That's the policy*.

But why would you make this post? "go after all the people who didn't vote for him" is the kind of post that just does not sit well with me. You voted so that you would look good IF he flipped scum. Which says a lot to me. Why are you worried so much about if people go for people who didn't vote for Vernon? Seems like you were hedging your bets and trying to make yourself look good.



(*my opinions on lynching inactives solely on them being inactive without regard to potential alignment is well known around here, but I also know I'm in the minority on that opinion, so I'm not going to relitigate this now)
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Post #2: 2nd Feb 2017 7:58 PM 
Darren Sanders @ 2/2/2017 19:54
Well if Darkus was scum he would have known that vern wasnt scum so why would he even say that

Unless Darkus is Mafia and thought Vern might be some other kind of scum, I'm not sure about this. I pointed out the post because I really do not like it, but you're not wrong about what you're saying here.
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Post #3: 3rd Feb 2017 10:11 AM 
Darren Sanders @ 2/2/2017 22:07
Whatever, new topic.


Helios throwing shade on Darkus earlier takes new light

Shade? I threw shade?

Oh wait...I know what you're talking about. Explain kindly how the shit that was shade. I'll wait.


Darren Sanders @ 2/2/2017 22:15
I took it as taking aim at an easy target.

This is ridiculous. When I see something that looks wrong, I call it out. I don't give a damn who it is. I would've called out ANYONE who posted that fraudulent shit.


spindoctor02 @ 2/2/2017 23:38
Nofo @ 2/2/2017 21:46
I'm not sorry. If you don't wanna be killed for being disruptive assholes, don't be disruptive assholes


channels inner Helios...

Dumb townies > dead townies


Dumb Town is still Town. When the fuck will you people learn this?


[QUOTE=Darren Sanders@3/2/2017 0:02]
spindoctor02 @ 2/2/2017 20:43
Why would Darkus use his 1-shot commute action on N1?

Why is this even a thing people are talking about. Feels like a distraction.


Because he knows you guys like to kill him early obviously[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. If I know I'm going to be a target for dumbassery, I'm commuting any chance I get.


spindoctor02 @ 3/2/2017 0:26
JohnnyDollar @ 2/2/2017 23:16
Nowhere did I ask for role claims or info. Pull up your dress. Your scum slip is showing.


You stated that you were going to vote for Nofo unless someone had a better suggestion. I'm sure I'm not the only one that read that as you looking for info to 'validate' switching your vote.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this!


Mittens @ 3/2/2017 0:36
I get a bad feeling about DS and Johnny both seemingly sticking up so profusely for Darkus. Maybe I shouldn't read so much into it, but it seems like an easy thing for scum to latch on to. "How dare you shoot a townie?!"

I'm pretty sure that at least one of the people shouting and voting Nofo for his ignorant ass use of that gun are scum looking for town cred. I'm not sure if it's one of these two, but I'm willing to bet actual money this is what's happening.
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Post #4: 3rd Feb 2017 10:12 AM 
This one gets its own post:

Nofo @ 3/2/2017 0:56
I just don't like Darkus or any of you so I'm doing whatever I can to piss all of you off. It's working.

If you are Town, posts like this are violations of Rule #2, and hostie should be contemplating modkilling you IMO. Play to Win does not mean acting like a bitchass troll.

On a related note...let me go back to the daykill action. There are so many different things wrong with what happened there, it's not even funny. The daykill happened pretty damn early in the day. Darkus flipped Town. Nofo's stated reason for killing is, essentially, "fuck Darkus". Meta actions and personal policy votes (especially when we're past Day 1) don't serve the Town any good. All it does is give people pages of bullshit to sift through in order to figure out what actually matters. If you don't like people, then don't fucking play the fucking game. This kill that happened simply made more questions than there are answers:

-Is "fuck Darkus" the legit reasoning, or is it just an excuse to hide behind?
-Could Nofo have made that kill because the Mafia scanned Darkus and was afraid of that role?
-Is Nofo some kind of third party that needs Lois Lane dead as part of its wincon?
-Is there some restriction on the gun (aka, why did it have to be used D2)?
-Was the gun actually passed on, or is daykilling an innate part of Nofo's role?

So right now, I don't know what to think. If Nofo is just being bitchass trollish Town, then he shouldn't be Lynched. But it's hard to figure out if that's what is happening, because Nofo is just doubling down on the "fuck Darkus" attitude and really not providing much of anything to go on. I really don't like the way Nofo is looking right now because his actions are scummy as shit. But when someone is acting intentionally scummy, it's really fucking hard to figure out what's actually happening.
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Post #5: 3rd Feb 2017 10:33 AM 
farlig @ 3/2/2017 10:17
Helios Garabandia @ 3/2/2017 10:12
This one gets its own post:

Nofo @ 3/2/2017 0:56
I just don't like Darkus or any of you so I'm doing whatever I can to piss all of you off. It's working.

If you are Town, posts like this are violations of Rule #2, and hostie should be contemplating modkilling you IMO. Play to Win does not mean acting like a bitchass troll.

On a related note...let me go back to the daykill action. There are so many different things wrong with what happened there, it's not even funny. The daykill happened pretty damn early in the day. Darkus flipped Town. Nofo's stated reason for killing is, essentially, "fuck Darkus". Meta actions and personal policy votes (especially when we're past Day 1) don't serve the Town any good. All it does is give people pages of bullshit to sift through in order to figure out what actually matters. If you don't like people, then don't fucking play the fucking game. This kill that happened simply made more questions than there are answers:

-Is "fuck Darkus" the legit reasoning, or is it just an excuse to hide behind?
-Could Nofo have made that kill because the Mafia scanned Darkus and was afraid of that role?
-Is Nofo some kind of third party that needs Lois Lane dead as part of its wincon?
-Is there some restriction on the gun (aka, why did it have to be used D2)?
-Was the gun actually passed on, or is daykilling an innate part of Nofo's role?

So right now, I don't know what to think. If Nofo is just being bitchass trollish Town, then he shouldn't be Lynched. But it's hard to figure out if that's what is happening, because Nofo is just doubling down on the "fuck Darkus" attitude and really not providing much of anything to go on. I really don't like the way Nofo is looking right now because his actions are scummy as shit. But when someone is acting intentionally scummy, it's really fucking hard to figure out what's actually happening.


Yet you lynched me quickly last game when I stated I wanted to lynch town when they posted useless information instead of posting what they did with their object they won the day before. Noted :)


1) Last game =/= this game
2) Let me go back and get the direct quote from last game:
From SSB Mafia
farlig @ 16/1/2017 19:16
Helios Garabandia @ 16/1/2017 19:15
farlig @ 16/1/2017 19:04
Helios took my bait and quickly voted to lynch me when I posted about lynching one of the guys early in the game regardless of affiliation (TIB if I remember correctly) that got an item but then didn't post what they did with it the next day even though he posted otherwise.

Besides, that I'd say he is "yellow" for me.

You call it "taking the bait". I call it "making the same argument I've made for a literal decade".

Bad Town is still Town. I don't give a shit how useful that Town is or is not being, or anything like that. Town is Town. Last time I checked, our job in this game is to kill all the Scum. If you are Town, and you are actively advocating to intentionally kill a Townie, then you are Scum, and you need to be killed.


Yes and yet I go back to, did I vote him? Nope. But you sure were quick to throw a lynch vote on me B)

Yup. Because, and I cannot stress this enough, if you advocate for killing someone regardless of alignment, I'm going to react accordingly.

The difference between that situation and what you have quoted me saying here is that in that game, you were advocating for lynching a player regardless of alignment...which is going to get me to vote for you, because shit Town is still Town. Here, I am choosing NOT to vote for Nofo, despite his scummy as all fuck appearance, because I cannot tell yet if he is actual Scum or just trolling Town...and trolling Town is still Town.

Though, it's nice you're trying to throw me under the bus. That's two people who have tried this today. You and DS...I've got eyes on you two.

Or as you like to say: Noted :)
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Post #6: 3rd Feb 2017 3:43 PM 
JohnnyDollar @ 3/2/2017 14:02
Quick question. If a player's role is "bomb" and they are lynched via plurality, does that activate their role or no?

Wait...what?

We have a bomb?
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