owned mafia owned

spindoctor02 @ 19/8/2016 23:33

I was attacked last night, but it wasn't enough to kill me (obviously). Why would mafia (I assume) want to attack me?

Wait, really? Can you tell us anything more? Obviously NOT your HP or role or anything like that. But is there anything in your flavor that suggests an assailant?

(I find it interesting this attack isn't mentioned in the flavor. I wonder if that means only attacks resulting in death will be revealed to all?)

All right, lemme get myself caught back up!

spindoctor02 @ 20/8/2016 0:04

In normal FE-style, there was no flavor. Just that's was attacked and lost __ HP.

Okay, thanks. I was just curious about how this would work.

Chris25 @ 20/8/2016 0:28

I was also attacked last night

Oh really? Interesting. Was it the same way that Spin described? No flavor, just an attack and an amount of HP lost?

Ole' Vern @ 20/8/2016 0:34

A lot of people haven't posted. Many more got attacked.

How...how do you know this? This seems like oddly specific knowledge to have. And yes, you could make an assumption based on what you were saying earlier about potential attacking/deflecting roles...but the way you said this seems definite, like you know FOR A FACT that many more people got attacked....

-dr @ 20/8/2016 0:35

Might be mafia was trying to avoid being watched ganging up on the same person. If they don't have a factional kill they might be trying to spread out the attacks then go for a big kill targetting everyone with low health

1) If the Mafia doesn't have a factional kill, then hostie should be banned from hosting. (:
2) How would the Mafia know if their spread-out attacks are successful? Do people get told the result of their attacks?

itsbrianyay @ 20/8/2016 2:10

i feel like my role might be a lie

Why would you post something like this? You KNOW the instant you post something like this, you're gonna have to explain yourself, since you just called massive attention to yourself. So...explain yourself. Now, please.

ahoda @ 20/8/2016 5:48

I watched Brian last night. No visitors. I'm afraid to use my attacks in case Mafia has any redirection roles.

Sabataged @ 20/8/2016 8:17

Brian confirm?

How can Brian confirm if someone came and visited him? Since he's alive, the only way he could confirm someone visited him is if his HP went down. And what good would it do for you to know if his HP went down? I really, REALLY do not like this post.

vladykins @ 20/8/2016 9:52

I was blocked. But I find it interesting that you know many more got attacked.

Just so you know, I find it interesting that you refer to you being blocked as you discuss Vern's whole "many more got attacked" post. I have a theory...and in that theory, you wonder how Vern is talking about more attacks, since you didn't get to complete an attack since you got blocked. This intrigues me...

im317 @ 20/8/2016 11:20

i was waiting to see if anyone else said anything, but i was attacked too. based on the amount of damage i took i think it could have been a greedy town member using an ability on me just to get Ult points.

Same thing as the others: Did you get any information about your attacker, or just that you were attacked?

Timmah @ 20/8/2016 12:21

And I still don't like helios' first post of this day - was overly aggressive and struck me as trying to sound town.

I have never not posted "owned mafia owned" when a Mafioso is killed. It's a thing that I do.
(I forget that about half the people here have never seen me play before!)

Oddilus @ 20/8/2016 12:38

Dammit, sorry Herm. At least something good came out of yesterday, I guess. I think I'm just going to start with a vote for an inactive after the mess yesterday, gonna wait and see what happens throughout the day. ## lynch Wikey

Angi @ 20/8/2016 14:04

I just want to put my vote somewhere in case I can't make it back in time ##lynch Merc I think the most inactive and no votes today so a safe one until I read more later and get ideas

Should we be going after inactives? Or should we be analyzing and going after suspicious people? I always go back and forth on the whole "how long is too long to target inactives" question, so yeah.

im317 @ 20/8/2016 18:02

anyone else get the feeling that there is to little resistance to this lynch for Sab to be mafia?

Not likely, no.

Why would Mafia stick their necks out for him (or anyone, really)? If he's Town, then he'll flip and Mafia can feel good about not being on his Lynch, and throw that at people later. If he's Mafia, then he'll flip and anyone trying to protect him will become obvious!

As for the Town, there shouldnt be any real reason to slow the Lynch of someone who looks as scummy as he has looked, especially since he has done basically nothing but dig a larger hole for himself. I covered my issues with him in my mini-novel up there earlier, so I actually agree with why people are after him. But in your attempt to call attention to why the Lynch train isnt slowing down, you are trying to slow it down !!

I know a lot of people around here are newish to this, but you are not. You know better.

##Vote: 317

spindoctor02 @ 20/8/2016 19:44

Mafia has an incentive to be on his lynch train if he is town though...bonus ULT points.

Tbqh, I'm not using the consideration of ult points on whether or not someone is Scum to me. 5 bonus points aren't gonna matter if someone's obvscum ass gets themselves Lynched.

vladykins @ 20/8/2016 20:58

It is a dynamic of the game. You play the game to its advantages; playing this like a normal mafia game either means you are dumb, you have a role where it is not useful, or you are trying to lead town down a road that will be detrimental to them.

This is true.

Counterpoint: I have an issue with the people who have been casting votes with the sole reasoning being "I need to get my 10 points!" How the FUCK does that benefit the Town? When people don't discuss shit, you make it hard for the Town to actually get informed and know what the hell to do. Plus, focusing on ult points gives the Mafia a very convenient excuse to hide behind. Ult points are good for us to get...but ult points shouldn't be the sole driver of actions like some people have made it seem!

spindoctor02 @ 20/8/2016 23:52

## Unvote It's interesting to see the train build on Sab so quickly, and the best reason people can submit is that it's "not vern". When has that ever been a valid reason? ## Lynch Brian Total gut feeling, plus the complete lack of activity today (on a non-gaming night) makes me think it's on purpose.

Your name is fitting with this vote and reasoning of yours! You know, with the ridiculous spin you're trying to put on today's actions. Even if there hasn't been massive activity like I prefer, there HAS been quite a bit of activity today. And in that activity, there has been plenty of reasoning to vote Sab other than "not vern". Multiple people have mentioned multiple things! Combine that with the fact that you've chosen to vote for Brian based on "gut" and not "anything that was discussed during Day 2", and I am led to believe you're here to protect scumbuddy Sab!

Personally, I think that YOU should be the target, but the votes seem to be going for your scumbuddy, so we'll just have to take him out today and you tomorrow!

##Unvote: 317
##Vote: Sab

spindoctor02 @ 21/8/2016 0:32

Of course there isn't discussion about brian today. He's got one post. Nobody remembered about him, so they didn't post about him. Timmah voted Sab because he believed Vern more. IM317 did the same thing.

spindoctor02 @ 21/8/2016 0:35

Helios Garabandia @ 20/8/2016 23:29 Personally, I think that YOU should be the target, but the votes seem to be going for your scumbuddy, so we'll just have to take him out today and you tomorrow! If you think I'm scum, then vote me. That way, when you either pay attention and read the thread, or pull your head out of your ass, you'll realize that I can't be scum, because I killed Dylan last night. You know, that mafia guy with the rockets. Yeah, he's dead because of me. You're welcome, by the way.

Really? I need to pull my head out of my ass? Okay, well...let's investigate, shall we?

spindoctor02 @ 20/8/2016 11:27

## Lynch Sab Thought some of his posts yesterday were sketchy and he jumped on the Ahoda train when it took off, making me think he was looking for easy bonus Ult points.

And how fitting that the first post is from you! Moving on...

Ole' Vern @ 20/8/2016 11:33

good timing Outcast. This is sad but my biggest town read this game so far is on you. I was also just looking at Sab and I might join you on that vote. I think Merc is super scummy too. A traditionally inactive player who's just dropping votes on people hoping trains will pick up. That's what it looks like at least

Ole' Vern @ 20/8/2016 11:34

## lynch Sab This makes sense

Yup, another one. Who, incidentally, was agreeing with you!

im317 @ 20/8/2016 12:26

im not sold on a Sab lynch yet, want to see what he has to say first.

Some doubt here on going for Sab, I see that. Let's continue.

Helios Garabandia @ 20/8/2016 14:07

ahoda @ 20/8/2016 5:48 I watched Brian last night. No visitors. I'm afraid to use my attacks in case Mafia has any redirection roles. Sabataged @ 20/8/2016 8:17 Brian confirm? How can Brian confirm if someone came and visited him? Since he's alive, the only way he could confirm someone visited him is if his HP went down. And what good would it do for you to know if his HP went down? I really, REALLY do not like this post.

I mention my own concerns based on some terrible fishing Sab was doing. I cast no vote because it's early in the day, and I wanted people to have an opportunity to discuss before I make irrational decisions.

Christian @ 20/8/2016 15:07

between Vern and Sab for scum, I'd lean Sab. But I want to hear from Drake again before switching my vote to anyone else.

Interesting...

Wikey @ 20/8/2016 16:31

##Unlynch Don't really see the Vernon or Sab lynch tbh. Guessing Sab is getting the vote cuz of inactivity. I'd rather not lynch someone purely based on that on Day 2. Inactivity is something plenty of us could be accused of right now. It is ze weekend, so it's understandable. Really not much to go on. I'm reasonably sure Ahoda is town, so Vernon isn't scummy for ending that tie yesterday in my eyes.

Not directly related to what I'm saying here, but I do find it interesting that Wikey tried to make it seem that the Sab lynch was about inactivity, when there were plenty of posts to the contrary! Wikey was called out on that already, but I'm just mentioning it again just in case.

Lamps @ 20/8/2016 17:28

##lynch Sabataged Getting a town vibe from Vern and looking at Sab's posts on both days... yah they could be scum posts I guess. So not against this lynch.

A little bit from the "not vern" side, and a little bit from the "Sab seems scummy" side.

im317 @ 20/8/2016 18:02

anyone else get the feeling that there is to little resistance to this lynch for Sab to be mafia?

And another attempted derailment of the Sab lynch. 317 was called out on this as well, but just good to note. Again.

Sabataged @ 20/8/2016 20:48

Its weekend and I dont play much on weekends. I have no idea why I am the target. I was clear yesterday on why I was voting Ahoda. Yet again Spin backs Ahoda which is horribly fishy. Someone tried to visit Ahoda last night and ran into a mine as I placed it there to protect him. But whatever. I am town and haven't acted scummy other than being suspicious of Ahoda. If you are voting me for inactivity then so be it.

This, combined with the vote for Spin that he cast in the next post, reeks of scumbuddies trying to vote for one another to make the other look good when the first one is obviously about to die. The vote has NOTHING to do with inactivity, and there are plenty of posts in this day alone to confirm that!

spindoctor02 @ 20/8/2016 21:31

Sabataged @ 20/8/2016 19:54 Also there are alot of others who are inactive so that is a BS reason as well. I don't know of anyone who's voting you for inactivity. I know I'm not. I'm voting you because of how you acted on D1.

Again, you YOURSELF say that the vote for Sab has nothing to do with the Vern vote!

Timmah @ 20/8/2016 23:04

I'm not sure what the count is but last I saw it was Vern and Sab leading. Based on what I've read so far I'm far more comfortable lynching Sab ##lynch sab

I'll give you this one, this is more of a "not vern" vote.

im317 @ 20/8/2016 23:15

also i didn't relies the vote was that close. seeing as i have a solid town read on Vern im going to ##lynch Sab

As is this.

spindoctor02 @ 20/8/2016 23:25

I get that people think Vern is town. I think that too. But these last couple votes for Sab make me think Sab is actually town. Looks like people just piling on to me.

And at about this point, you realize your scumbuddy is about to die, so you realize you need to try and do something to persuade people to switch!


And now, here we are! Basically, don't ever accuse me of not reading a thread and paying attention. Because not only have I been paying attention enough to make my vote and my argument today, I have all of these posts here that back me up!

Oh, and one more thing. Just because you say you killed Dylan doesn't mean you're innocent. I can think of multiple reasons why Dylan is dead and you would still be Scum.