Hmmm....it's been quite a long while since I've played a game of Mafia. Did ya miss me?

Also, ##Lynch: ahoda

Third vote on the joke train: obvscum, etc

Ole' Vern @ 18/8/2016 11:19

And HELIOS I missed u

...a sentence I never thought I'd read. Ever. (:

Okay, so...we're more than halfway through the day, right? Has everyone showed up?

Ole' Vern @ 18/8/2016 13:16

Wikey @ 18/8/2016 9:56 Vernon, what is the HP of those classes you posted most recently? You left that out. Get back here at once I'm at work on mobile now so I asked someone to compile all my notes together plz and fill in those missing HP's

Who did you ask?

More importantly, where did you ask them?

Lamps @ 18/8/2016 16:50

vladykins @ 18/8/2016 20:20 Ole' Vern @ 18/8/2016 14:13 vladykins @ 18/8/2016 11:52 Dadd @ 18/8/2016 13:38 vladykins @ 18/8/2016 13:32 Hmmm, the power up rules for lynch votes make for an interesting D1 dynamic. elaborate Well, you get 10 points for a lynch vote in general, but if you are on the majority train, then you get +5 if you nail the other team and -5 if you don't. So the game theorist in me says mafia is likely going to push on the train D1 to get the extra power up, given that D1 we're likely to hit a townie, even with an inactive vote. It also discourages townies from going in on a potential townie vote, since they are likely to only get 5 ult points while helping mafia get 15 each. So the incentive is to not be on the winning lynch right now. Not at all true. Being on a bad lynch train is only -5 points and that's nothing.. Clearly you failed Game Theory. Here's an example: I have the option of being on a lynch train or voting for someone else. I am a townie. The game is running, so we know that # of mafia members is < 50% (otherwise the game would be over). So, unless I have good proof that the person being lynched is a BG, I have the following choice: <50% chance, I get 15 points. >50% I get 5 points. If mafia was exactly 50%, the expected value for points would be exactly 10. Since we know that townies are greater than 50, then the expected value for points is less than 10. If I vote off the majority train instead, I get 10 points. So, the Nash equilibrium for this game, without confirmation that you are hitting a bad guy, is to always be off train. Theoretically, selfishly, yes. So if every townie were selfish, scum could take full control of the lynches and we lose. So we shouldn't be selfish and not care too much about getting 5 points less. I think scum would care more about reaching their ULT than town.

Okay, gonna need a minute to process this.

I signed up to play MAFIA, hostie...not play MATH.

Okay, I think I understand this whole "voting = points" thing, which leads me to do this:

##Unvote: Ahoda
##Vote: No Lynch

Since I have cast about three NL votes TOTAL in the history of ever, let me explain this one.

1)If I cast a vote, then I get 10 points.
2)If my vote is on the lynched person, and it's for Scum, then I get 5 bonus points, for a total of 15.
3)Alternately, if my vote is on the lynched person, and it's for Town, then I get a 5 point penalty, for a total of 5.
4)If my vote is on someone that is not lynched, then I get my 10 points.
5)Since, by definition, No Lynch cannot be lynched, neither the bonus, nor penalty applies, which guarantees me 10 points.
6)Not only do I get 10 points, if NL wins, the Mafioso do not get a bonus either!

So for now, unless hostie tells me my loophole doesn't work, someone tells me I misinterpreted the way these points work, or someone does some incredible dumb shit, this is the way I'm going to go.

Christian @ 18/8/2016 17:39

vladykins @ 18/8/2016 17:35 Christian @ 18/8/2016 16:33 No points for Christian. Thanks secret admirer... wut? well, my vote has been blocked. So I can't get points for lynching someone. I was joking about the secret admirer part.

Oh shit. Well...damn. It sucks this kind of role is in here. I wonder why someone would 1) use it D1 and 2) use it on you

Chris25 @ 18/8/2016 19:08

I never read like 75% of this shit. THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED. The fact that you are trying to paint me as scum instead of just trying to get me lynched due to me just not giving a fuck and being detrimental to the Town when I am town is by far the scummiest shit I've ever seen you pull in a game. I am 100% town, ill claim if i need to just say the fucking word.

I....what!? I don't understand this post. Did you just admit that you don't give a fuck and are detrimental to the Town!? I'm gonna need you to go ahead and explain this shit and explain why you should live. Because why the fuck would you play the game if you freely admit that you're only going to pay attention to like 25% of it?

And no, "explain" does NOT mean "claim". If you are actually Town, then you wouldn't want the Mafia to know your role (1, if your role is powerful, you're a target. 2, if your role is not powerful, it means you're expendable, and the Mafia will go after someone else).

I would love it if more people would talk.

##Unvote: No Lynch

Hostie, a dick. Eat one. That one-sentence "PSA" you posted annoys me. :D

...why do you people claim all damn day long

What are the votals?

If I'm reading right, we have about 2ish hours left, right? So we need to DO SHIT.

As of now, I think neither Chris nor Ahoda are scum actually! But I need to think about this more. And since the day is ending soonish, and I need to put a vote somewhere...

##Vote: Christian

nothing personal, just want my 10 points
(also, slightly, slightly suspicious of why you lost your ability to vote today)

Herm @ 18/8/2016 23:02

This game doesn't have the usual roles so I can't say for sure it's a Town role just because it has killing powers. Chris's lynch train is also weird, because he's not getting lynched because people think he's scum, which feels odd to me because if you're town and lynch town you don't get your share of points. If you're town, why would you not want to get points?

Fuck points, if you're town and you don't think he's scum, why the fuck are you lynching him in the first place? The goal is to kill the MAFIA, remember?

Besides, dumbass Town is still Town.