I feel like we've been here before. Pretty sure I was attacked by scum, so how exactly does that make me scum? JC looks like a vig target to me as for a vig it's hard to choose a target N1 and this is better for everyone. At least I would have killed him instantly if I had the chance. That would leave me as the mafia target.

There's a lack of proper leads, and I got tons of votes already, so, ok.

Bryce (Tatiana Rose Petal) @ 28/4/2016 6:00

Whoever is going around murdering people is committing a series of microaggressions and that's not cool. If you feel like you need to be educated you can take a look at my Tumblr blog. Unless Lamps is town bullet-proof, I don't see him having any other town-centered role that would help him survive an attack. A doctor could have visited him, but that would be random as fuck and honestly I don't see that happening. Even if Lamps does show up to claim town bullet-proof, the only way for him to actually prove it is by getting lynched, and I still remember that Walking Dead mafia game where Herm fake-claimed Miller the entire time, flew under the radar, and ended up winning. And I'm not going to be stupid enough to let scum use that same strategy again. So whatever Lamps does claim, it better be good. ##Lynch Lamps

This post is the scummiest of all posts, referring to a completely different situation in another game to help justify your vote. You are correct though, you will have to lynch me to see my role (duh). I suggest everyone to take a look at this post the day after.

##lynch Bryce

Herm @ 28/4/2016 13:31

Why couldn't it be SK/Mafia attacks? Anyway, Lamps you should claim. If you're town that is. If you're scum then that's not necessary.

Wrong. If I'm town it's not necessary. I don't see why I would claim when it looks like I was attacked by scum. All of y'all have a higher chance at being scum than myself, so I shouldn't be the lynch in the first place. All you accomplish by lynching me is help scum lynch their intended target.

Herm @ 28/4/2016 14:45

Lamps @ 28/4/2016 6:45 I feel like we've been here before. Pretty sure I was attacked by scum, so how exactly does that make me scum? JC looks like a vig target to me as for a vig it's hard to choose a target N1 and this is better for everyone. At least I would have killed him instantly if I had the chance. That would leave me as the mafia target. There's a lack of proper leads, and I got tons of votes already, so, ok. You don't think there's a SK in this game? Unless it's you?

Could be, what do I know? How is it relevant? Vlady came with the same flawed logic but I don't see what it proves if there is an SK. SK killed JC? Mafia attacked me? Or vice versa, but what does it prove. There is still a very low chance that I'm scum.

Timmah @ 28/4/2016 15:14

Dadd @ 28/4/2016 9:11 Would like to hear more from Lamps. I can think of a few ways he could have survived, especially on a N1 And we can all think of several ways he could have survived as scum as well. I agree, he needs to put more of an explanation out there, if not claim outright. If he sticks with the tactic he already used of just calling people out for being stupid and scummy for voting him, then I'm going to lynch him.

Quote me.

Timmah @ 28/4/2016 16:47

Lamps @ 28/4/2016 10:38 Timmah @ 28/4/2016 15:14 Dadd @ 28/4/2016 9:11 Would like to hear more from Lamps. I can think of a few ways he could have survived, especially on a N1 And we can all think of several ways he could have survived as scum as well. I agree, he needs to put more of an explanation out there, if not claim outright. If he sticks with the tactic he already used of just calling people out for being stupid and scummy for voting him, then I'm going to lynch him. Quote me. Okay, these were your first two posts. The first you tell everyone they have bad reads. In the second you pretty much say Bryce is scummy for voting you. Lamps @ 28/4/2016 0:45 I feel like we've been here before. Pretty sure I was attacked by scum, so how exactly does that make me scum? JC looks like a vig target to me as for a vig it's hard to choose a target N1 and this is better for everyone. At least I would have killed him instantly if I had the chance. That would leave me as the mafia target. There's a lack of proper leads, and I got tons of votes already, so, ok. Lamps @ 28/4/2016 0:51 Bryce (Tatiana Rose Petal) @ 28/4/2016 6:00 Whoever is going around murdering people is committing a series of microaggressions and that's not cool. If you feel like you need to be educated you can take a look at my Tumblr blog. Unless Lamps is town bullet-proof, I don't see him having any other town-centered role that would help him survive an attack. A doctor could have visited him, but that would be random as fuck and honestly I don't see that happening. Even if Lamps does show up to claim town bullet-proof, the only way for him to actually prove it is by getting lynched, and I still remember that Walking Dead mafia game where Herm fake-claimed Miller the entire time, flew under the radar, and ended up winning. And I'm not going to be stupid enough to let scum use that same strategy again. So whatever Lamps does claim, it better be good. ##Lynch Lamps This post is the scummiest of all posts, referring to a completely different situation in another game to help justify your vote. You are correct though, you will have to lynch me to see my role (duh). I suggest everyone to take a look at this post the day after. ##lynch Bryce

If that is how you read these posts then that is how you read these posts. I cannot find Bryce's argument fishy because he just voted me. Ok.

thisisbad @ 28/4/2016 16:50

I think Lamps defense team is putting up a much better defense than he is. He's not really trying

Correct. First of all I hate when ppl put words in my mouth. Second, I could easily claim, but I don't find it necessary. I'd rather get lynched and prove a point here than claim. Claiming is a cop out and only scum should need them.

Eben Etzebeth @ 28/4/2016 16:58

Lamps @ 28/4/2016 10:57 thisisbad @ 28/4/2016 16:50 I think Lamps defense team is putting up a much better defense than he is. He's not really trying Correct. First of all I hate when ppl put words in my mouth. Second, I could easily claim, but I don't find it necessary. I'd rather get lynched and prove a point here than claim. Claiming is a cop out and only scum should need them. That is the opposite of how a pro-town player would view the situation, just so you know.

Than i'm always anti-town, regardless of my alignment.

thisisbad @ 28/4/2016 17:10

All anyone has to go on is you survived an attack. That's suspicious. Claiming would clear up any confusion. Not claiming doesn't help anyone. As someone just said, that's a scum tactic. The whole "you'll be sorry tomorrow" thing doesn't work very well. If you are town, and we are wrong about you, then tomorrow we will complain you didn't try hard enough, and move on.

Because what did I need to do? Claim? I'm not claiming because I don't see the need, and if that makes me look worse then ok.

Seriously, I don't think it matters what I say at all because the only thing that people want to hear is a claim (or probably at least whether I know why I survived). And I'm only arguing why I don't see the need, but others still want me to claim because they do see the need (or like to put words in my mouth). There are no other leads anyway so I think the only out here is to lynch me and wait for my flip.

If there is anything other than a claim that people want to hear then please ask because I don't think I know more than most of you but ppl seemed to want to "hear from me". So what did you want to hear exactly?

## unlynch

##lynch vlady

King of twisting words.

Eben Etzebeth @ 28/4/2016 18:01

Redster @ 28/4/2016 11:59 Eben Etzebeth @ 28/4/2016 9:44 Lamps @ 28/4/2016 11:40 Seriously, I don't think it matters what I say at all because the only thing that people want to hear is a claim (or probably at least whether I know why I survived). And I'm only arguing why I don't see the need, but others still want me to claim because they do see the need (or like to put words in my mouth). There are no other leads anyway so I think the only out here is to lynch me and wait for my flip. If there is anything other than a claim that people want to hear then please ask because I don't think I know more than most of you but ppl seemed to want to "hear from me". So what did you want to hear exactly? Your role, and how you survived. You know the answer to at least one of those questions. Does it really fucking matter at this point? If he did come out and say "okay fine I am town bulletproof" you guys would all say "Oh well obviously he is lying since he waited so long to claim so let's lynch him anyway". Don't even pretend like you wouldn't. In my opinion only scum have a reason to keep their roles a secret when under major pressure.

Scum always (fake)claim.

Nofo of December 2015 @ 28/4/2016 18:47

i mean i honestly don't care if Lamps is town he's still rude and deserves to die based on pre-conceived notions since HE tends to base HIS votes on that.

Ok I don't know where you get that from, but I appreciate the originality (:

Eben Etzebeth @ 28/4/2016 19:10

Not claiming provides no benefit to the town whatsoever.

Ok let me tell you this. Claiming doesn't, either. You tell me how it benefits in all of these scenarios:
1. I have a shit role and don't know how I survived. No one cares, will get lynched, no loss for anyone rly.
2. I have a decent role but don't know how I survived. No one believes it.
3. I have a decent role and do know how I survived. No one gonna deal with this as I will remain a question mark for the rest of the game.
4. I have a p good role and do know how I survived. Best case people believe it but role would go to waste because scum kills/blocks/whatever.
5. I have a p good role but don't know how I survived. That's a combo of all of the above basically.

I think the only out here is to lynch me and I'm ok with it. Sorry if that is seen as not trying/caring, but I do not believe in claiming - like a prev game when I survived an attack N1 and was town (Mason tracker fwiw). I'd have claimed right away if I were scum (Vanilla cop anyone?). I hate meta but yeah idk what else to say in my defense at this point other than claiming.

Eben Etzebeth @ 28/4/2016 20:12

Because in all scenarios we can see how people react, and even if you do get lynched still we can start to put together the pieces on who is scum or not. If you have a shit role then this is unlikely to help, but it's in the town's best interest to provide all info available so that we can make the most informed decisions.

Angi @ 28/4/2016 20:22

I think Lamps is saying he has a good roll and he'll just get killed tonight if you all unlynch him so what's the sense?

Ok you both have a point. I'm a dead fish in all scenarios so it doesn't necessarily help but also doesn't hurt any extra since votes seem to stay on me anyway.

I am JOAT and protected myself last night because my other 3 abilities would go to waste in case I got killed. Do you guys want me to list my other abilities?