I was blocked as well. I visited Curtis to give him an idol, or actually, I visited him to check the theory that anyone visiting Curtis at night is automatically blocked.

So i think that clears up some of the blocking.

I hate that mafia keeps targeting townies bcuz it's p obvious they're handing the converting faction the win this way. Unless they're the same faction but no not buying that.

hey im blue

I think everyone should claim today. Leaning towards lynching Curtis again. Apparently Walk's vote on him was blocked?

Still thinking Boc can only be mafia because of his idol use on buffy, but given the number of kills there might be another mafia, who then performed the kill. Badger or one of the two inactives.

Dylan is certainly not mafia but also not recruiter or town i dont think, so that leaves stabilizer.

Curtis recruiter? Shawn could be too.

Christian is most town like to me, but that means Nofo, Shawn, and a fourth have been recruited? That's odd. Dylan then? Or Colby, or both.

Either way the town + mafia better vote together today, for either Curtis or Shawn?

Yes

Christian @ 27/6/2015 3:38

And I also blocked Boc last night. If it went through. I didn't get a message that I was blocked.

Wait why do you announce that in public before Boc even spoke?

Your night actions have been hard to verify because when you revealed them most of them were dead and walk claimed to never do a thing at night. Now you're letting Boc confirm that you indeed block at night?

I believe it, but I think you're SK, not town vig. A vig that's bulletproof at night is wayyyyyyyy OP and once claimed impossible to kill for mafia aside from unstoppable.

Even if you're SK I do not want to lynch you now though. Ehhh or this whole converting/recruiting thing is fake and we're running in circles, but rly it does seem real no?

Okay fair enough. Your passive part means you cannot be a recruit tho so that helps a lot.

So if Shawn is recruiter/converter, who do you think could be in his faction?

Just searched for "Shawn" using the search option and I think he is a very plausible option. I guess Christian could be in his faction then and conveniently used the joke on him to at least make us aware that Shawn didn't visit anyone N6. I'm thinking Dylan as well then cuz whynot. The third recruit, not so sure. I don't think Boc based on his posts, not Badger unless he was a fourth recruit and said there was no conversion. Frankly, that leaves Nofo or Colby which is weird but ok it's possible.

Dylan who did you block last night?

##lynch Shawn btw

Curtis @ 27/6/2015 19:28

Christian and Lamps are the two left on Wikey's list right? We'd be dumb for ignoring that. Lamps I dunno why you think Christian is Town knowing Wikey's info? Either you or him are very likely scum. I'd lean towards Christian. Maybe he's Recruiter and that's why he survived a night attack?

Don't forget that Wikey wasn't 100% about Boc. I thought Christian was town before your claim, when I was convinced you were recruiter.

If you are not recruiter nor recruited, then I think Christian has been recruited - which is why Christian is in a different faction and Wikey didn't become town. (I also think Boc is mafia since he used the idol on Buffy but that's for later)

I don't think Christian's claim really fits with the recruiter role + Dylan said he blocked Christian N3, but it's possible.

Curtis @ 27/6/2015 19:32

I'm nervous too that Badger would be the perfect recruit candidate because of his role. Recruiter would be smart to grab him up asap so he could stop revealing any new recruits and play down their size

Curtis @ 27/6/2015 19:36

HEY LAMPS since you've been paying attention, can you rank everyone left on most to least likely to be recruiter in your opinion

Shawn
Yesfo :/
Christian
Boc
Badger
Curtis
Dylan
Lamps

When doing this i realize how genius it would be for Badger to be recruiter and come out with his info JUST in case a converted person is killed lol but nah?

BadgerMcBeaver @ 27/6/2015 19:55

I agree with the Shawn lynch. I guess there's no reason for me not to claim at this point. My active was that I can watch to see who visits someone at night but now that I have been given the pep talk I can also see who that person visits. The reason I think a Shawn lynch makes sense is because I know for a fact that he visited someone night 5 and that seems really far into the game for someone who was legit inactive to be submitting actions. I don't think he is a likely candidate for recruiter (I'm very lost on who that might be) but I do think that he's scum of some kind.

Shawn visited someone N5? That's a night when someone was recruited, right? Night 6 Shawn didn't do anything according to Christian. So why is he not a likely candidate for recruiter?

Also, would you mind to share a list of your night actions and what you learned from them? It could help I think.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 27/6/2015 20:25

Night 4. Watched Buffy - No one visited.

Buffy said she was blocked that night. Guess she tried to scan Curtis?

Awkward, I was just having second thoughts lmao.

After reading Badger's post, I went back to read the roles of ppl who visited Curtis N1 and Chris' role is pretty much a vig, just that he has 50% chance of killing the person. I do not believe that Curtis is town. Not Random Mafia either. So that leaves Stabilizer or Chaotic Mafia/the recruiting faction.

Merc and Ahoda are typical mafia kills, no vig kills lol. Especially Merc.

Add to that, that we're possibly looking for the leader of the Chaotic Mafia as mentioned in Moose's role. I've never seen a mafia that just sits and converts. They kill, that's the whole point. Maybe they had 3 conversions max idk. Curtis' list could just be a list of the kills his faction performed imo.

This is driving me insane ><

BadgerMcBeaver @ 27/6/2015 22:43

I agree that Curtis might not be town but I believe he can't be targeted and I also believe he has the ability to kill. I can't imagine that Brian would include a character capable of killing, is completely untargetable (not just bullet proof, he also can't be cop'd, redirected, blocked etc.) and on top of that can recruit to a faction. That seems wayyyyyyyyyyy too strong so makes me pretty sure that he isn't the original recruiter.

I don't think it's that strong. Suppose it is a mafia faction that starts as a single person. That person gets:
- a kill every night = same as regular mafia, but the kill is a factional kill, not an individual ability
- 3 recruits
- can't be targeted at night - which makes sense or else their faction can't grow

For one person that is a bit much, but for a faction that is quite OK I think? Like, a regular mafia faction starts with 4-5-6 people and they have all kind of powers. This chaotic mafia (if it's that), started with a single person so they must have something to compensate.

Aside from that I agree that changing is not the right thing to do, unless we all think the same about this. I'll keep my vote on Shawn if you do basically. It's most likely not a bad vote.

Boc whatchu thinking?