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Post #1: 4th Apr 2016 12:07 PM 
Fecking hell that progressed quickly.

Am I the only one who thought that was a good move by Jay? The reaction to Herm the initial time round could be very telling now.

##Lynch Lamps

Better to sort this out now. If Lamps flips scum, a whole bunch of players look suspicious, and some might even be cleared.


 
   
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Post #2: 4th Apr 2016 12:13 PM 
Also, Town Sensor....lol I hate that role, feeling bad for you scum if three of you are indeed on that list!

I'm having Doctor Who flashbacks...

Anyway, I'm not who those three might be right now, but one thing I would say is that it's interesting to see Boc turn up on the list. I don't know why people are giving him a free pass after Zook flipped, what the hell people?

He acted completely irrationally exposing the backup vig like that and effectively destroying the masons. Curtis said yesterday that Boc probably wouldn't be scum and that it was more likely he had a side win condition. The idea was that Scum Boc would probably opt to try and steer Zook to misfire with his vig kills, rather than immediately try to get him killed.

But this is making the assumption that scum Boc would know the identity of his fellow scum. He could just as easily be a mason traitor who has no knowledge of who his team are. In that situation, exposing and trying to get the backup vig lynched might make sense. We should keep this in mind, Boc is in no way cleared in my mind.
 
   
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Post #3: 4th Apr 2016 12:59 PM 
Christian @ 4/4/2016 12:53
Wikey @ 4/4/2016 12:13
Also, Town Sensor....lol I hate that role, feeling bad for you scum if three of you are indeed on that list!

I'm having Doctor Who flashbacks...

Anyway, I'm not who those three might be right now, but one thing I would say is that it's interesting to see Boc turn up on the list. I don't know why people are giving him a free pass after Zook flipped, what the hell people?

He acted completely irrationally exposing the backup vig like that and effectively destroying the masons. Curtis said yesterday that Boc probably wouldn't be scum and that it was more likely he had a side win condition. The idea was that Scum Boc would probably opt to try and steer Zook to misfire with his vig kills, rather than immediately try to get him killed.

But this is making the assumption that scum Boc would know the identity of his fellow scum. He could just as easily be a mason traitor who has no knowledge of who his team are. In that situation, exposing and trying to get the backup vig lynched might make sense. We should keep this in mind, Boc is in no way cleared in my mind.


And maybe your message to the Masons helped to push Boc in that direction?

Huh? I'm not really sure I get this. It wasn't exactly novel to come up with the idea that out of a trio of masons one might be scum.

Feel free to prove me wrong on this, but in every game that has had a trio of masons one has always ended up flipping scum. If I hadn't called attention to this fact when im317 flipped, somebody else would have. So I don't really see what your point is here.

Is this an attempt to defend Boc?
 
   
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Post #4: 4th Apr 2016 1:03 PM 
The problem with lynching Jay is that it will leave a question mark over both Herm and Lamps for the foreseeable future.

Of course it is possible they are both town and he is just fucking with us...but we won't know unless we go with his lead. Barring that, we could try someone from the list.

I'll have to go back and read Lamps posts, I seem to have missed what he was soft claiming.
 
   
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Post #5: 4th Apr 2016 1:07 PM 
Christian @ 4/4/2016 13:03
Wikey @ 4/4/2016 12:59
Christian @ 4/4/2016 12:53
Wikey @ 4/4/2016 12:13
Also, Town Sensor....lol I hate that role, feeling bad for you scum if three of you are indeed on that list!

I'm having Doctor Who flashbacks...

Anyway, I'm not who those three might be right now, but one thing I would say is that it's interesting to see Boc turn up on the list. I don't know why people are giving him a free pass after Zook flipped, what the hell people?

He acted completely irrationally exposing the backup vig like that and effectively destroying the masons. Curtis said yesterday that Boc probably wouldn't be scum and that it was more likely he had a side win condition. The idea was that Scum Boc would probably opt to try and steer Zook to misfire with his vig kills, rather than immediately try to get him killed.

But this is making the assumption that scum Boc would know the identity of his fellow scum. He could just as easily be a mason traitor who has no knowledge of who his team are. In that situation, exposing and trying to get the backup vig lynched might make sense. We should keep this in mind, Boc is in no way cleared in my mind.


And maybe your message to the Masons helped to push Boc in that direction?

Huh? I'm not really sure I get this. It wasn't exactly novel to come up with the idea that out of a trio of masons one might be scum.

Feel free to prove me wrong on this, but in every game that has had a trio of masons one has always ended up flipping scum. If I hadn't called attention to this fact when im317 flipped, somebody else would have. So I don't really see what your point is here.

Is this an attempt to defend Boc?


No, it's an attempt to say that you're not clear of anything either. I've already stated my opinion of Boc.

Oh I get it. You are suggesting that I might have been trying to turn the masons against one another with my comments yesterday. Fair enough, but again I'd have to point once again to the fact that every game with three masons has had one of them as scum, so it wasn't a controversial point to make.

Also, I believe I made it clear it was only something for them to keep in mind, and keep to themselves. Nothing in my message invited Boc to blurt everything out the way he did.
 
   
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Post #6: 4th Apr 2016 1:12 PM 
Rose probably shouldn't divulge too much, given that she likely has the names of most every visiting role in the game, a large majority of which are town!
 
   
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Post #7: 4th Apr 2016 4:44 PM 
Lamps claimed Vanilla Cop, or at least something of the sort. Cool.

Did someone say Herm had already claimed Vanilla before Lamps posted his results? Worth noting if so. I might have missed it, I had to skim the last several pages.

##Unlynch
##Lynch Jay

I've change my mind on him, it's probably not a good idea to keep him around or trust him. Dealing with the devil, aye.
 
   
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Post #8: 4th Apr 2016 4:46 PM 
Also Angi, do you remember a specific game with three town aligned masons in? Does anybody for that matter?

I seriously don't think it's a good idea to give Boc a free pass. I'm not saying he is a top suspect, but the fact that he is not been suspected at all rubs me the wrong way.
 
   
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Post #9: 4th Apr 2016 7:15 PM 
I'm not entirely sure why Redster is the favorite for the lynch. Is he on Canuck's list?

If so, what has he done that is overtly scummy other than be on said list?

Gonna have to forgive me again, I have skimmed a lot.
 
   
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