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Post #1: 24th Oct 2013 4:55 AM 
Oh boy, Roos managed to pull the Superman role! Good job!

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Night 1: scanned Zersch. I picked up scummy vibes from him on my day 1 re-read, which I did during night 1. Of course, Zersch died that night. But he was cult leader, which means I was right about him.

Night 2: killed Jen. I was positive she was Ari's scum buddy.

Night 3: protected myself on the grounds that I was a prime target after day 3. Looks like I was right. It's entirely possible that two hits were made on me.


Awfully convenient, all of this. Particularly your night 2 Jen attempt. I don't like claims which rely on so many coincidences.

But the worst part for me is the infinite superman jack claim. I am sorry, but to me, that would be way overpowered. I am tempted to say Roos got his claim in order well beforehand and misinterpreted the jack role.

It is not common enough that it might stand up without dispute too.

##Lynch: Roos


 
   
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Post #2: 24th Oct 2013 5:03 AM 
Still, it has to be asked why there was only one kill attempt in the night. It would suggest that either SK or mafia was roleblocked.

If we go by Roos been the SK, then I doubt he would attack himself. So, the mafia or a vig targeted him. But if a vig was responsible, that would mean that both the mafia and the SK were prevented from attacking.

So for now we should say that the mafia targeted Roos, and Roos was roleblocked. But nobody has come forward, which makes me hesitant. Perhaps they didn't feel it was necessary, and they might do well to remain quiet, since Roos is getting a lot of heat anyway.
 
   
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Post #3: 24th Oct 2013 5:06 AM 
On the Curtis lynch...not buying it. My gut feeling is that Curtis is telling the truth. Heated defence is not his style if he is scum. He usually plays it cool when he has something to hide :)
 
   
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Post #4: 24th Oct 2013 9:54 AM 
Yeah, Angi scanning Curtis as scum doesn't prove he is the SK. I have never known a SK to scan as scum. Not really helping your case to be honest Roos :\
 
   
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Post #5: 24th Oct 2013 9:59 AM 
Also, I still stand by my vic lynch on day 1. I went with my gut (that post Boc pointed out was and still reads as suspicious)
 
   
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Post #6: 24th Oct 2013 10:05 AM 
In fairness to Roos, no argument can be made based on the likelihood of him been targeted. Because as he says, he WAS targeted.

And maybe he isn't such an unrealistic option. He has been pretty active and involved for much of the game. But I don't know if he had done enough to earn protection.

He claims that he protected himself. But this claim really really bothers me. When a player can have the choice to kill, protect, scan, roleblock every night, something is up. It is a crazy claim if it isn't true, but sometimes they are the best kind.
 
   
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Post #7: 24th Oct 2013 10:11 AM 
Curtis @ 24/10/2013 3:38
And it isn't about doubting Angi at all. Putting full faith in role results isn't gonna work every time. It's so easy for it to be bussed. It was easy to follow up on it with Rob because he was already acting very scummy. I don't see how you guys can think I'm scum based on my actions

Mafia bus driver could've very easily bussed me with one of their own last night since I (should be!) seen as pro town based on what I've done. If that person was investigated or attacked, it goes to me. If I was scanned, goes to them and I take the fall for it

The mafia caught a break with Angi's results and they're gonna jump on my train because no one will blame them once I flip town. The evidence against Russ is so much stronger

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All of this makes complete sense except one thing
Why would they suspect you'd be scanned since your actions have indeed been very pro town?

This is a good point, however, maybe scum were expecting one of their own to be targeted last night, and hoped to bus the kill to Curtis. Just a thought.

Curtis is giving me town vibes. As I have said, he usually tries to play it cool if he is lying. Unless he is changing his game on us!

 
   
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Post #8: 24th Oct 2013 10:12 AM 
Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 15:06
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When a player can have the choice to kill, protect, scan, roleblock every night, something is up.


Then something being up has to do with Korr, not me. (:

What is your role title, if you are allowed to say so? Is it just jack of all trades?
 
   
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Post #9: 24th Oct 2013 10:15 AM 
:|

Not Super Jack or anything.

Ok...

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Post #10: 24th Oct 2013 10:15 AM 
Not wholly convinced either way now.
 
   
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Post #11: 24th Oct 2013 10:28 AM 
Still bothers me that there was only 1 kill last night, with no explanation. Two is the norm, and that appears to be true in this game too.

Night 1:

Zersch died probably from a failed recruitment

Paco and Matt were killed by the mafia and SK. Nothing in their roles indicates otherwise to me. Roos has claimed not to have had anything to do with either of these kills. So unless Patrick used his unstoppable kill before he died (unlikely), then there was definitely and SK killing on night 1.

Night 2:

Jen died, and Roos claims to have killed her. Matt was killed, probably by Patrick, who then bore the brunt of Matt's bomb. There was no other kill. SK's usually target someone every night. So what happened? Did they get roleblocked or something? You would think someone would have come forward with such vital info by now if so.

Night 3: Only Roos is attacked. The mafia probably targeted him, but where is the other kill we have come to expect?

You know, as I am writing this, this makes less and less sense. I don't know if this supports Roos's claim or makes him look worse (:

Because, if he was going to claim Jack when infact he was SK, he might as well say he targeted Paco on Night 1 too, wouldn't he?
 
   
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Post #12: 24th Oct 2013 10:38 AM 
I am tempted to say that if there is a roleblocker out there who can shed some light on this, it might be best to speak up.

Cause that is the only thing that can explain the missing kill for me right now, and probably point us to the right person.
 
   
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Post #13: 24th Oct 2013 11:08 AM 
I haven't forgotten about the Nofo thing either. However, FF0 said he controlled him again yesterday to no effect. So if Nofo is SK, again, it could only be explained by roleblocking shenanigans.

This is all if the SK has to kill every night, which is a reasonable assumption.

And whilst a roleblocker claim won't clear or condemn anyone 100%, it will certainly help us make an informed decision. I find it unlikely that you were targeted by both mafia and SK Roos. But I suppose stranger things have happened!

There is no guarantee that anyone will come forward though.
 
   
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Post #14: 24th Oct 2013 12:50 PM 
Probably better not to claim tbh
 
   
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Post #15: 24th Oct 2013 12:52 PM 
I gotta go, but I think Roos has said all he can say. I am going to read over it again before recasting my vote. Back later.
 
   
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