Looks like it's time we had a talk!

First of all, Vernon is mad with me about something he THINKS I did. (beat) I did do it.

I killed Jen on night 2. I was almost totally sure she was scum. Go back and read my day 2 posts if you like, I FOS'd her for tying lynch trains on two days and otherwise acting scummy. I was pretty surprised that she flipped town, and I don't think I'm the only one.

Yes, I can kill. But that doesn't mean I'm SK or night vig.

I'm Town Jack. I can kill, protect, roleblock, or scan each night. Here's what I have done each night:

Night 1: scanned Zersch. I picked up scummy vibes from him on my day 1 re-read, which I did during night 1. Of course, Zersch died that night. But he was cult leader, which means I was right about him.

Night 2: killed Jen. I was positive she was Ari's scum buddy.

Night 3: protected myself on the grounds that I was a prime target after day 3. Looks like I was right. It's entirely possible that two hits were made on me.

Boc, you were almost right when you said Vernon had idiotically exposed the town vig when he revealed I visited scummy-acting Jen. I'm not town vig but I do have the ability to kill for town. I had to say that Vernon is BS'ing because if mafia find out I can do that, they will obviously target me.

Which they did! Maybe they role scanned me, maybe it was random, but I was talking a lot more yesterday and have been FOS'ing a few people for the last two days. I was pretty sure they were going to hit me last night and that's exactly what they tried. I also knew that, if I were right, I would have to go into today having survived a kill, and would have to explain all this.

So there's my roleclaim. If town lynches me, they're getting rid of a valuable asset. Someone who can scan, protect, kill and roleblock.

Oh, and the reason I said there may be no SK on day 3?

That's because I assume there is a town night vig (besides me) and was thinking there should be four kills per night if there is an SK. Broken down by night:

Night 1: Cult leader most likely killed when he tried to recruit mafia
Plus two more killings: which I assume are mafia and town vig

Night 2: I killed Jen
Plus two more killings: which I assume are mafia and town vig

But tbh it does actually make more sense for there to be SK and not town vig, or town vig just hasn't struck yet. If there is no town vig then I'm the only one of you who can kill at night. So we pick a target to lynch today, then let's talk about who I can kill tonight. And if there's a doctor out there, protect me pls. I can't do that AND kill on the same night.

Something else: the reason I knew Ari's BACKUP DOCTOR claim is bullshit is that I have doctor abilities, although I'm not the doctor, and I doubt Korr would put three players who can protect into one game.

Any other questions I'd be happy to answer them since I'm being open about everything now.

Also I'm completely not sure about the Curtis lynch. As I said previously he was the player most IN THE CLEAR as far as I'm concerned since he went after Ari the hardest. He could be SK, but do we have ANY indication of that at all?

Actually wait. Scum has their own doctor don't they? So it would make no sense for us to decide together who I kill at night. Nvm

It surprises me too, Curtis. I'd never heard of Jack before this game. I looked it up on the mafiascum site and the role listed there says you have the 4 roles I have, but as one-shot abilities.

Nothing in my role description suggests they're one-shot, though. I can apparently keep using them.

If I were BS'ing you, I would just have copied the role from the mafiascum site and said I had one-shot abilities. I wouldn't invent a role that hasn't been seen before. But apparently that's what Korr in his infinite wisdom decided to give me.

Curtis @ 24/10/2013 8:33

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 4:27 If I were BS'ing you, I would just have copied the role from the mafiascum site and said I had one-shot abilities. Not really though. If you were SK then you would keep killing, so claiming that you're this strange Jack and CAN keep killing would be very convenient if you were SK. And you're offering to keep killing as well. It's perfect if you're SK I'm not convinced either way. Just sharing my THOTS!

This occurred to me as I was typing it. I guess there's no way for me to prove it, unless someone has scanned me and would like to speak up! (Oh though pls don't be paranoid)

On which note I'm not convinced Angi is a paranoid cop, I think probably Henry is.

After the events of yesterday, I think Angi is more trustworthy than Curtis! So I'm inclined towards a Curtis lynch as well.

And yes I posted just one page ago that I assumed Curtis was town after day 2. But then I re-read today and saw that Angi is targeting Curtis. I skimmed through everything before due to all the excitement of surviving a kill! (:

Curtis @ 24/10/2013 8:51

Post Edited by Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 4 minutes ago Don't do this (:

You did!

I saw you do it. But because you're an admin the "Edited by" didn't show up

All I did was clarify my meaning, anyway.

Curtis @ 24/10/2013 8:51

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 4:48 And yes I posted just one page ago that I assumed Curtis was town after day 2. But then I re-read today and saw that Angi is targeting Curtis. I skimmed through everything before due to all the excitement of surviving a kill! (: How did you miss the main talking point (: .

I pretty much scrolled quickly through everything to see who was targeting me. Fewer people than I would have presumed, but I still looked suspicious enough to people that I went ahead with the roleclaim.

Curtis edits his own posts under cover of admin, then calls out others for doing the same? Totally scummy (:

Yesterday I was reading on this thread, I F5'd and a Curtis post had changed.

Not even joaking, you had added a sentence or something. I didn't think much of it at the time and I don't now, but having seen the example set by glorious leader I assumed it was acceptable behaviour

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He tried to push a Wikey lynch for the same reason why I brought up Patrick as scummy, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wikey is town and Lamps was trying to throw shade onto him for that.

This is wrong. I remember this because I voted for Wikey initially on the same day.

Lamps voted for Wikey, I voted for Wikey, in the next post Lamps retracted his vote.

I found that a bit weird - almost like Lamps wanted to avoid starting a train, but it doesn't indicate he was that serious about pushing the Wikey lynch.

Curtis @ 24/10/2013 9:05

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 5:03 Yesterday I was reading on this thread, I F5'd and a Curtis post had changed. Not even joaking, you had added a sentence or something. I didn't think much of it at the time and I don't now, but having seen the example set by glorious leader I assumed it was acceptable behaviour lol I don't care that you did it. I was just making sure you knew it was a rule we use so you don't ever get killed over it

Okay, cool. And btw make sure you also know it's a rule we use do you don't ever get killed over it

Tom Brady @ 24/10/2013 9:55

Oh boy, Roos managed to pull the Superman role! Good job!

Tbh yeah. Jack is an actual role though, Wikey. Korr has modified it so they're not one-shot abilities, probably to make the game more interesting. Anyway, after surviving a kill last night I had no choice but to roleclaim. Make of it what you will.

I killed Jen rather than scan because mafia games don't tend to go on very long and I wasn't about to waste my abilities scanning every single night. I had serious scum vibes from Jen and just went with it. Turns out I was wrong in that case.

Oh, and ... since mafia knows who I am, they're going to want to kill me, aren't they? But they weren't very successful last night!

So they'll probably try for a day lynch.

It's probably worth looking at who jumps eagerly on the Roos train after my roleclaim. Or if you prefer, refuse to believe me and lynch me today, then look at them closely tomorrow after I flip Town Jack.

Curtis @ 24/10/2013 9:39

One more thing, THEN BED! Jen said before she died that she could easily prove that she's town. Why would Jack Russ decide to kill her after that?

I know I pretty much already answered this, but this is SILLY, Curtis. Someone saying they have proof they're town then offering nothing HARDLY vindicates them. It's the exact kind of boolshit scum say.

Time to throw my HAT IN THE RING.

Based solely on Angi's information which was solid yesterday:

##Lynch Curtis