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Animal
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| Post #1: 19th Nov 2020 3:23 AM | |
Hi all I visited Gen 5 last night and am in the dying state now
At first this made me believe stargate but mafia would know which Gen they visited too and could claim that. But the math does make sense for him to be clear unless whoever died that night (Cody?) visited there Gen. Same goes for Jackie... and Spin’s claim seems legit based on my knowledge of the game. | |
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Animal
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| Post #2: 19th Nov 2020 3:30 AM | |
I think gens 2 and 6 will be back tonight, killers probably had a perk to temporarily block them. | |
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| Post #3: 19th Nov 2020 3:43 AM | |
Generator 5: 9 claimed repairs
N1: Stargate. Herm, Mal, Zerach
D2: ??%
N2: Mal, Kyle, Zersch
D3: ??%
N3: Stargate, Animal
D4: 61%
This math does not make sense
If Stargate and I are both town, we bumped the generator up 24%. The killer would have knocked it down 5% so D3 should be 42%
How does 6 people visiting it over the course of 2 nights only = 42%?
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Animal
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| Post #4: 19th Nov 2020 3:58 AM | |
Contrarily if Stargate is lying then D3 % of Gen 5 would be 54%
Can anyone explain why Gen 5 would be at either 54% or 42% on D3? It would really help us determine who is lying here.
I’m pretty sure the liar has to be someone that visited it twice (so Stargate or Zersch). It seems like there’s math for another Gen that helps Stargate’s case better BUT
If anyone can explain a difference of 4% on Gen 5, then Stargate is the liar ... if someone can explain a difference of 2% on Gen 5, then Zersch is the liar | |
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| Post #5: 19th Nov 2020 3:59 AM | |
Gen 5 was never damaged before tonight right? | |
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| Post #6: 19th Nov 2020 4:10 AM | |
Or technically it could be both Mal and Herm lying but I figured that’s less likely lmao | |
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| Post #7: 19th Nov 2020 10:19 AM | |
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animal if zersch was lying would the math make sense then? |
Not exactly but maybe. If Zersch were lying, one of Mal/Herm/Star would need to have a +2% repair on Gen 5 one of the nights | |
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| Post #8: 19th Nov 2020 11:49 AM | |
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Looking at this info:
Stargatex2, Herm, Malx2, Zerschx2, Kyle(LIAR), Animal all have claimed visits. So we should be in the 80% range, but are only at 61%.
Animal is cleared based on a claimed chest.
Stargatex2
Herm
Malx2
Zerschx2
Those are our list of lying suspects based on a very high level analysis of the %. Seems like we're looking for 2 liars, so that kinda clears Herm since he only went there once? Stargate, Mal, Zersch seem to be a great place to start.
Chests: 8 claimed
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D1: 20 Chests
N1: TIB (?), IM317 (?), Cody (?), LAMPS (?) (?)
D2: 15 Chests - 5 chests gone so N1 claims check out
N2: Animal (?), Jamie (?), Penner (J)
D3: 12 chests - 3 chests gone so N2 claims check out
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Generator 5: 9 claimed repairs
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N1: Stargate. Herm, Mal, Zerach
D2: ??%
N2: Mal, Kyle, Zersch
D3: ??%
N3: Stargate, Animal
D4: 61% |
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Could killers have some ability to degrade the percentages without actually visiting? Could that maybe explain the supposed math not working out? |
Hm, this is a good point. I'd have to re-think the math but I'm in class till this afternoon.
Off my gut though I'd think if this were the case, it wouldn't account for that big of a difference (20%+), like maybe instead of looking at someone who visited twice maybe we'd be looking more at someone who visited once. Either way I feel like someone on gen 5 is mafia.
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Animal
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| Post #9: 19th Nov 2020 11:51 AM | |
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Another thought.
Save this post for later when we lose the game —
I bet mafia can destroy a chest. And that counts as a visit. There’s no way we’re so easily able to rule out everyone who visited a chest.
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I can't think of any killer perks that have to deal with chests in the game but I wouldn't necessarily rule it out. I believe there's an offering that will remove a chest from the game and survivors have the opposite offering to add a chest but I don't think we've seen offerings in this so far and all offerings are decided pre-game rather than the perks being used throughout the game. | |
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Animal
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| Post #10: 19th Nov 2020 12:20 PM | |
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People need to claim outright which generator they were working on each night |
I agree, I feel like this is the best way for us to deduce who is lying at this point.
I'm also leaning toward Z but mostly just because Mal has been more forthcoming with info & Star has claimed a counterable action (gen % being revealed). | |
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Animal
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| Post #11: 19th Nov 2020 1:24 PM | |
oh nice being mod killed for editing a typo would be on brand for me
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I’d still rather lynch stargate over the math battle of Zersch vs Mal. |
Stargate is involved in the math battle too but i figured he's more clear due to a counterable claim. Zersch's claim checks out with Meg + Adrenaline | |
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Animal
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| Post #12: 19th Nov 2020 1:27 PM | |
I thought he said the reveal of gen %s was bc of his role | |
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Animal
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| Post #13: 19th Nov 2020 1:31 PM | |
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Well fuck, it looks like one of the last people who really understands this theme just broke rule #10 and is looking at a modkill.
Why won't people stop editing their posts?!? |
Who? You'd love a town modkill wouldn't you?
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Animal - post #265
And no, I don't want a town modkill. I just want people to actually follow the posted rules for once. |
sorry i havent played a mafia game in 5-6 yrs lmao | |
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Animal
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| Post #14: 19th Nov 2020 2:16 PM | |
Which night did Mal not fix Gen 5?
Generator 5: 9 claimed repairs
N1: Stargate (10%), Herm (10%), Mal (?%), Zerach (10%)
D2: 32%
N2: Mal (?%), Kyle, Zersch (+10%)
D3: 42%
N3: Stargate (+12%), Animal (+12%), Killer (-5%)
D4: 61%
So my role adds 2% to everyone who fixes the gen the night I do which is why I have me and Star at 12%. Thats how I knew day 2 we were up to 24% before being regressed to 19% | |
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Animal
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| Post #15: 19th Nov 2020 2:18 PM | |
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So my role adds 2% to everyone who fixes the gen the night I do which is why I have me and Star at 12%. Thats how I knew day 2 we were up to 24% before being regressed to 19% |
This is regarding gen 3 | |
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