Nah that asshole deserves to be outed as a cunt. It deserved to be shown.

Nofo @ 12/4/2017 20:51

Nah that asshole deserves to be outed as a cunt. It deserved to be shown.

This could be interpreted different than I meant it. I'm team Zeke. Varner can rot.

Fight me. Varner can choke. I didn't expect it to be that bad. I saw the rumors and I was like nahhhh he's a nice guy he wouldn't do that. He can choke.

Everyone buy your tickets to the Jeff Varner apology tour

Cirie has been on a tribe with everyone left.

Bryce @ 12/4/2017 21:09

And someone wonders why I don't answer their desperate pms for information. (:

I wanted to piss you off. Your boyfriend can choke.

You've always been a cunt to me so you deserve all of this. You'll never be cast on survivor, bitch.

Bryce @ 12/4/2017 21:14

Nofo @ 12/4/2017 18:11 You've always been a cunt to me so you deserve all of this. You'll never be cast on survivor, bitch. That one cut deep.

Deeper than missing the loved ones visit? That would be a misnomer right? Maybe if it was the "that person that bitches their wagon to me to get here visit"

Hitches

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No.

I'm not even that mad I just hate Bryce.

I do feel bad for Varner but I find the fact that the conversation is about Varner is problematic in itself. To direct the sympathy to Varner takes away from what he did imo. I don't think Varner is a bad person, he's just misguided and not as educated as he could have been. We never saw any conversation between Jeff and Zeke, that could have been a thing that happened but I feel like that's context we weren't given.

I don't think Varner is a bad person, he just has terrible taste in men.

Badger'n'Brian @ 13/4/2017 1:43

Nofo @ 12/4/2017 23:37 I do feel bad for Varner but I find the fact that the conversation is about Varner is problematic in itself. To direct the sympathy to Varner takes away from what he did imo. I don't think Varner is a bad person, he's just misguided and not as educated as he could have been. We never saw any conversation between Jeff and Zeke, that could have been a thing that happened but I feel like that's context we weren't given. I don't think Varner is a bad person, he just has terrible taste in men. I don't agree with this. To direct sympathy to Jeff Varner does not take away from what he did to Zeke. You can be sympathetic to both Zeke (for having to endure that entire situation) while remaining sympathetic to Varner (for the witch hunt that is about to take place online, based on what I see as a massive error in judgment that does not reflect his overall character). If Varner had been unapologetic about it the way that Shannon was in Niceragua with regards to Sash, I'd absolutely agree with you that he doesn't deserve our sympathy. But I also think it's reasonable to be sympathetic to Varner because the online Survivor community has a tendency to go on witch hunts, and Jeff did appear to immediately regret his actions, and apologized. ETA: Fuck. Forgot I was on this account, but this was badger speaking.

What Jeff did was incredibly misguided and opened Zeke up to violence. He knew Zeke wasn't out to them, he said as much. He phrased it as if his living his truth was a deception. I don't think the conversation needs to be about Varner. That's what I said. We don't need to say over and over again, poor Varner he's such a nice guy. Yes, he is. The conversation shouldn't be about him, that's what I was saying.

That's really shitty to fire him. Where I live, two hours away, you'd get a promotion for that shit. Varner knows, I live in Greenville. No one is going to care in a week, he has to live with this the rest of his life. Do I think people have a right to be upset? Yes I'm upset. But Jeff shouldn't get fired just because they're afraid of backlash.