Cody @ 5/9/2020 22:48

I think there’s 2 or maybe 3 on the herm train. You can look towny lynching him but also seems like a mafia benefit for herm to get lynched. Might also want to look at who wanted Gmaj day killed. Anyone trying to make it Gmaj over Herm could be sus since Herms black out thing only activated when he was lynched not killed.

good answer good answer (we still doing family feud?) mafia would have been super pissed if Herm was day killed. makes Zersch look bad but someone should look and see who said to save Gmaj for the lynch. also i remember a few people gave good reasons for Gmaj to not be day killed and lynched instead, should probably look to see who it was.

Malion 🌟 @ 5/9/2020 22:49

Not looking at it too hard but if zersch were scum saving him for the lynch rather than proving his worth by killing him outright was the better move because it procc'd his ability. Again I think using the kill at all day 2 would be pretty ballsy as you put a big target on your back if you're scum unless you always go the under the bus route. I was thinking about this a lot when I had the vote power last game. It's like a huge look and scrutinize me please power.

i thought the kill was from the presents? and i would think there was a good chance it had to be used the same day. plus mafia knew Gmaj was not one of them, so getting to kill a non mafia player and keep Herm's ability in play without going with a more out there kill would have been very tempting.

##lynch Zersch

you scum Z? also g'night

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 10:09

Thisisbourbon @ 6/9/2020 7:56 Z, why not use an ability N1? You never know how long you’ll last in mafia do delaying the use, especially with 5, seems like a bad choice. Because I didn't want to waste any of them. They're my abilities to do what I want with. I have a kill, a protect, a redirect, a vote cancel and a role block. I don't think we have a standard Vigilante with all of the kills floating around between other people.

yeah im sorry Z but i just dont see town having that many kills

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 10:43

So with Mittens flip, does his claim to be confident about the gmaj/bus situation make more sense to someone because I'm still confused.

if he hid behind Gmaj he would know Gmaj was not attacked. or at least i read his role that way. its not that if the person he hides behind dies so does he its "However if you hide behind a player who is attacked, you will also be attacked."

also i have been busy puppy sitting and watching Celtics games so i have not had as much time as usual to be around so i end up posting about stuff that has already been dealt with which means less opportunity for back and forth conversations. and its going to happen again today as im going out in a little bit for idk how long to visit with family. sorry if this inconveniences people.

Spin @ 6/9/2020 15:27

Here's a question I don't think has been answered yet: If im317 is the Town Vig, and Town basically couldn't take any actions last night, why did mafia take him out with their factional kill the one night they were guaranteed to not be blocked/tracked/watched/etc.?

Mittens was a bigger target? especially if they figured his role out.

Spin @ 6/9/2020 15:37

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 14:32 I don't think 317 is a dedicated vigilante, but I don't see how Mafia would know that going into the night only seeing a single one-shot kill flip at the time. Too many other kills scattered around in town to have a dedicated one, surely. Like I could imagine there being five or six town with a night kill (maybe more are unlocked like Mittens was) instead of one person that can do it every night. But im317 was the only known killer from Town going into last night. He was the obvious target. Mafia rarely, if ever, gets a chance at the obvious target without worrying about investigative roles catching them.

maybe mafia has a role blocker? also we know my kill was messed with in some way night 1...

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 15:48

If they have a permanent redirector anyone they think has a permanent kill becomes a utility tbh.

...so this is a possibility.

Spin @ 6/9/2020 17:22

Rodney @ 6/9/2020 16:19 Have you read today at all? Almost no one is convinced and that includes me and all the z voters. He's making it very hard because he sounds so town What are you talking about? Everybody who is voting for Zersch references Herm and the anvil stuff for their reasoning. Some people mention that he didn't use his ability on N1, but with only 1-shots, so what? I'd probably save them too to find better options. I don't see how Zersch and Herm are tied together, simply because Herm had that part of his role negating a night's worth of actions if he was lynched. From my recollection, Herm was never a serious candidate to be anvil'd, so dropping the anvil on anyone else wouldn't be suspicious.

with 5 1 shots you would not use any night 1? also for me his saying he has a kill is very suspect when we already had a town player flip with a kill and another town player flip with the ability to earn a kill, plus me

not loving this response by Jackie

##unlynch

Spin @ 6/9/2020 21:48

Pen Newton @ 6/9/2020 20:44 Spin @ 6/9/2020 21:43 Pen Newton @ 6/9/2020 20:42 Kyle @ 6/9/2020 21:41 Tbh what is she going to say at this point in the day. Also most actions were blocked yesterday so it's hard to really give any useful info (if her role has something, I believe she said she was a Town PR?). Still good to get something out. More data points are better than less. What is the one thing they could claim at this point that would make you unlynch. I honestly can't think of a single claim that would do that for me. Just getting Jackie to say something would be an accomplishment And? If Jackie is town, they will be lynched and the role will be revealed for all to see. If Jackie is scum, anything they say will likely be a lie, and we'll get the actual role when they flip after being lynched. The time to get Jackie to talk was about 6 hours ago. Except Jackie took the day off.

i mean if she is town and has a role then she could tell use what she did night 1. worth waiting another 9 minutes on the off chance imo