Cult leader dead is good news. probably tried to recruit mafia which is better news since then he would not have recruited anyone successfully.

i figured based on how yesterday ended that Ari would be the lead suspect today. my biggest reservation with that is it would be very sloppy of the mafia to push so hard to save him. what with 24 players there are probably 6 or maybe 7 mafia. i would lean towards 6 since there was a cult and there probably is a serial killer.

multiple mafia members voting Vic in an attempt to save Ari just feels like poor planing. Ari will flip at some point and if he flips scum then the people who voted Vic to counter the Ari votes would be major suspects. sure there will be town among them but 3/7 being mafia would be incredibly poor planing.

i think that no matter what Ari flips there wont be more then 2 who voted Vic. still we learn the most from Ari being lynched. lets just wait and see what he has to say.

well things have gotten interesting.

ff_zero @ 19/10/2013 20:43

So Nofo... How come when I controlled you and made you target Paco he died?

can you make them target themselves? would have been amusing if you hadn't said anything and they sent him for the kill again and he died because of it. this is of course in hindsight and assuming you are telling the truth. just thought it would be funny

that is a very bold claim by Nofo. it could be true and someone else actually killed Paco, or ff could be lying. claiming BP without surviving a night kill is something almost nobody would do if it were not true. however the exceptions are the godfather and SKer.

if ff is telling the truth then i would say Nofo is either very unlucky BP or unlucky SKer. godfather doing the kill night 1 almost never happens.

whoever we go with between Nofo and Ari we need to make sure we dont forget the other.

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 20/10/2013 15:37

Vernon leaving your (: aside, I find your claim suspect for two reasons. One, you're announcing it very late in the game, possibly in an attempt to derail the Nofo train. Two, Paco's role: Quote Paco has one particular obsession with a certain FEer, at any time choose a player, you will be shown the people he/she targets. You're saying that's also your role? I mean I guess Korr could have put two of those in the game ...

Paco was a role that only got info one 1 person. Vernon appears to be claiming Tracker. i dont like people completely dismissing Vernon's claim because it could be true.

i feel like there is a better chance of ff's claim being true then Vernon's and we cant afford a tie so ##lynch Nofo

Frankenvern @ 20/10/2013 17:45

im317 @ 20/10/2013 22:31 Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 20/10/2013 15:37 Vernon leaving your (: aside, I find your claim suspect for two reasons. One, you're announcing it very late in the game, possibly in an attempt to derail the Nofo train. Two, Paco's role: Quote Paco has one particular obsession with a certain FEer, at any time choose a player, you will be shown the people he/she targets. You're saying that's also your role? I mean I guess Korr could have put two of those in the game ... Paco was a role that only got info one 1 person. Vernon appears to be claiming Tracker. i dont like people completely dismissing Vernon's claim because it could be true. why would I be lying!

i dont know, which is what makes this so difficult. if just about anyone else had made your claim we would all be lynching Curtis right now. i dont think we can afford to ignore your claim just because its you.

Nofo @ 20/10/2013 17:38

im317 @ 20/10/2013 17:35 i feel like there is a better chance of ff's claim being true then Vernon's and we cant afford a tie so ##lynch Nofo It doesn't mean anything if his claim is true, it's meaningless because someone else killed Paco. Not me. I don't have a visiting role.

i admit there are multiple scenarios where you are town aligned and ff is also town aligned. i voted you because of the 2 options i feel you are the better bet to produce useful information. if a 3rd and better option was available i would have voted them, but there isn't and we learn nothing from a tie

damn it. i have to go out really soon. i actually also prefer lynching Ari but i dont want to make it a 3 way tie

Nofo @ 20/10/2013 17:53

##Lynch: Ari Why would me coming up as BP give you any information?

this changes things.

##unlynch
##lynch Ari

if Ari flips mafia we go back and look at the people who pushed Vic day 1.

Ari @ 20/10/2013 18:02

im317 is just flipping between trains to try and save his scumbuddy Curtis This is so fucking obvious

if i was trying to save Curtis why would i have unlynched Nofo?

Paulus @ 20/10/2013 18:05

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 20/10/2013 23:04 And while I'm not suggesting a new lynch target, some people have barely been posting. James Chen has made like one post today and it was completely non-committal. We can't just focus on the people who are saying a lot while potential scum gets forgotten about because they're being silent. I agree wholeheartedly! The most annoying thing in these games is when the days become fixated on two or three targets. Like there's no other alternative but to lynch those two or three targets. Often-times all of the targets in question are innocent and it really sucks that the fixation occurs like it does.

i agree with this and that quiet people are an issue. however we are running very low on time remaining. im sticking with my Ari lynch because the train on Vic that saved Ari was very scummy.

Tom Brady @ 20/10/2013 18:08

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 20/10/2013 22:02 Tom Brady @ 20/10/2013 21:58 I am inclined to believe Nofo right now because nobody has come forward to challenge her claim. Likewise for FF. Something clearly messed up here. And this would mean there was a missing kill for sure if they are both telling the truth right? Confussingg. On the Curtis accusations...Vern could be a tracker in fairness. Paco was a watcher, which is slightly different and does appear alongside the latter. But with better leads aplenty, we should pursue them rather than a lead solely based on intel from Vern. Paco wasn't a watcher, he was a parasite. But the role description is pretty much that of the watcher. ALSO, I think the real BP would reveal under the circumstances, because if Nofo is lying, as you say, he would be potentially letting the SK/GF have another night to kill.

it was more a description of a lover then a parasite or watcher. regardless Vernon appears to be claiming tracker