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Post #1: 15th Dec 2019 2:34 PM 
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Mafia - They utterly dominated the game. They had some crazy luck targeting both SK's N1 and N2, but it wasn't a given that they would have worked out what they had stumbled upon. They initially thought TIB could be Doctor and Ahoda Vig/SK. They capitalized on that luck by all being active participants in their Mafia forum, and blending in well for the most of the game. They only became exposed towards the end because they went all in for the win. They we're constantly planning and thinking through their actions. Probably one of the most active mafia teams I've seen. Thoroughly deserved win for them.

We could make an entry for each mafia member, as they were all great. Curtis for how he stepped up his game Day 4 and escaped the lynch (he is very good at talking his way out of lynches). Also, he was the one who suggested Nav's redirect target should be Ahoda on Night 3 which was HUGE for Mafia who were able to take out not only Town Watcher, but Town Resurrector that night. Not to mention Ahoda would have killed Nav that night if they hadn't redirected him. Nav for his constant strategizing. Timmah for staying under the radar while maintaining good activity. Spider for her long, thought out posts which kept the heat off her and came off very sincere. Gmaj for his enthusiasm alone. Cody was also a good player while he was alive. Town got lucky with his lynch honestly.

One last thing: Even when they made mistakes (see HOL) they reacted accordingly and didn't get despondent. Their only option in those last days was to act as if they had already won. This bluff fooled town for a while.

Lamps - The Town MVP. His reads were solid throughout the game. His role was not an easy one to use, but he played it well. On Day 4 he decided to use his ability, and successfully killed Gmaj after forcing a claim from him. He quickly deduced that Gmaj's cop claim was fake because he said he cleared Mittens N1 but had gone after him in the D2 thread. He had this figured out in two minutes so not sure if he researched it that quickly or if he just remembered it. Solid job, either way. Also, flavour wise it was great that Inigo got to kill the Six Fingered Man. One of our favourite moments of the game.

Ahoda/TIB - For winning despite only getting one kill of their own away in the entire game. They had the worst luck, and they spent most of the game ranting in their SK forum, speculating we had given them some sort of fake SK roles. We began to feel sorry for them and hoped their luck would turn somehow. Appropriately, it wasn't by any action of their own that things turned around for them. It took a Mafia blunder to open up the chance of a shared victory. Credit to Ahoda for making that a reality. He wisely bluffed that he was still odd night SK and couldn't kill every night, and put aside his anger towards Nav/Curtis near the end to make a deal with Mafia.

Brian - He was the other standout townie for us. His reads were good and he was another voice of reason. He played especially well towards the end, when his reads were enough for Mafia to decide to kill him. This led to Timmah dying by WIFOM the following day.

Town in the final days - Primate, Tchill, Penner and Sock were players who didn't have the greatest game for the most part. But together with Brian in the final days they rallied and ensured that the Mafia wouldn't have it easy. They had a very slight chance at victory at one point, although it quickly became either Mafia and/or SK's game.

Christian - For deliberately luring the Mafia to kill him on Night 3. He fooled them into thinking he had multiple uses of his role, and it was convincing enough for them to waste their Ninja kill on him.

Herm - He had pretty good reads overall. He also distanced himself from the Watcher role. Despite this, his support of Havo, while not role-related, led Mafia to believe he was a Cop.

Havo - Day 3 he came out with a list of 3 possible scum (Curtis, Ahoda, Cody). Nailed it. We're pretty sure this played a part in Mafia choosing to janitor him.

HOL

Town - What should first be stated is that Ahoda and TIB's bad luck became the Town's nightmare. Mafia gained a huge advantage by having access to an extra kill every night. That said, Town didn't help their chances with their complacent attitude for most of the game, and their lazy lynches on Jamie and Mittens. Crucially, they allowed Mafia to hammer TIB on Day 5 and finish the day early. Had Lamps had a chance to show up he could have taken a shot at The Mafia again. (Granted, he was considering Ahoda that day and would have died as a result!) Generally throughout the game, towns reads were just bad (which the exception of a few mentioned in HOF)... they only figured out the Mafia at the end because they voluntarily outed themselves. Speaking of which!

The Mafia - For celebrating before the finish line! It was hilarious to watch as a spectator, but what a way to almost throw away a sure victory.

On Day five Nav had calculated that they only needed to survive one more day to get a majority and win. They bum-rushed the vote to get TIB lynched after Spin spilled his information. The rest of the Mafia took him at his word and they went into the following day ready to troll the town, thinking they had the game in the bag. It was only after Curtis and Nav had both exposed themselves as scum that Curtis thought to look at the numbers himself...and discovered that Nav had made a mistake. Which prompted this exchange in the Mafia forum:
Nav
I uh. I may have miscounted. Oops.
Curtis
Oh my god
If it hadn't been for this mistake, they probably would have been sole victors.

They also foolishly targeted Brian on Night 6, despite the fact that Curtis had already speculated he could have something more to his role than "searcher" when he was the main character in the movie. So it shouldn't have been too much of a surprise that he had some type of BP or another ability. Bottom line, there were obvious "vanillas" they could have targeted which would have allowed them to end Day Seven with another no lynch, then win the game. Again, had they targeted anyone other than Brian they would have been sole victors.

Even when they found they had targeted Brian, if they would have tried to push Timmah as the lynch, they would have only lost one person and they would have won. This last part would be pretty difficult since town/sk were pretty set on lynching Curtis or Nav, though.

SK Team - They have to get an HOL for their defeatist attitudes alone lol. That being said, we understand their frustrations!

Josh - He didn't submit an action on Night 4, which was a crucial night for him - and for town. It may not have mattered, depending on who he picked but, if he had blocked either Nav or TIB he would have survived and given town more of a chance.

Christian - Despite his reasoning for using it too soon to us, it's hard to understand why Christian used his one and only lie detect so early. How invaluable that could have proven to have been later on! Also, although he gave his reasoning for using it on Jamie when he had soft-claimed Miller, using it on a role which would possibly mess with your results was probably not the best idea.

Gmaj - He was too hasty with his cop claim and didn't think his night actions through. He claimed he had cleared Mittens as Town N1, which Lamps quickly figured out was BS because he remembered Gmaj had gone after Mittens Day 2.
 
   
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Post #2: 15th Dec 2019 4:19 PM 
Ahoda @ 15/12/2019 17:15
im317 @ 15/12/2019 16:39
it was controlling your kill on back to back nights after TIB died that was broken. mafia deserved 2 kills by figuring out who both SKers were.


Ahoda @ 15/12/2019 15:35
Wikey you cant ever plan for mafia to get 2 night kills like they had this game. Its something that just happens and you just throw your hands up and say fuck it.

That was also why the mafia was way op this game. If they never had that you never know how the game goes. But I do hope mods in the future out restrictions in power roles like that so they dont become too op


did you guys ever consider not killing?



Yes, then buffy yelled at us

I no killed after the curtis lynched and then when timmah also died I decided to kill


That is NOT true. I asked if that was the serious action because I literally didn't know if TIB was just mad and was going to change it. It would've had no effect, anyway.
 
   
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Post #3: 15th Dec 2019 4:27 PM 
I asked if it was his serious action because I literally didn't know if it was.

Also, the redirection of your kills was as beneficial to you as it was to Mafia, since you were killing town, anyway. I think two of your targets (Christian, Rodney, idr who else) ended up being killed either way.
 
   
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Post #4: 15th Dec 2019 4:28 PM 
It's town who should be mad about it :P
 
   
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Post #5: 15th Dec 2019 5:13 PM 
I felt bad for Farlig. They never even fed him or played with him. :(

Well, Timmah did a little.
 
   
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Post #6: 15th Dec 2019 5:26 PM 
Havo @ 15/12/2019 18:16
I would like to say that reading all the threads Lamps has become one of my very favorite players. One of the main reasons I targeted him to blow my trumpet at on Nite 1 was because I had no idea what it would do and I knew he was level headed enough not to over react to it. He did call me an idiot tho. Lol. I ALWAYS want him on my team.




And if he's not, kill him.
 
   
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Post #7: 16th Dec 2019 12:04 AM 
Mittens @ 16/12/2019 0:34
I also had fun! Thanks for the game!

Looking back at the day I was lynched it’s funny. Moral of the story, always lynch Curtis, and if not then lynch Ahoda.


Pretty sure the moral in this was to lynch Nav.
 
   
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Post #8: 16th Dec 2019 12:21 AM 
tchill13 @ 16/12/2019 1:20
so the mod regularly gives a break down of the game in this amount of detail? very neat.


Only when you play a Wikey/Buffy game. You just got lucky lol
 
   
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Post #9: 16th Dec 2019 12:22 AM 
Also Wikey said we should retire after this... idk how to take that lol.
 
   
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Post #10: 16th Dec 2019 12:30 AM 
And let me just say because idk if I did - thanks for playing everyone! I really enjoyed hosting this, however flawed.

My favorite part about hosting with Wikey - he's very creative and his flavor (flavour) is hilarious. My favorites were probably Lamps killing the six-fingered man and the end game flavor with Ahoda biting Spider and Spider retaliating just because "they had to try."

My favorite to write was the Christian/rabbit stew flavor. I was envisioning his "Valerie" going home to cook dinner for im317's "Miracle Max" and the skip in his step was not caring that he got Jamie killed and not about to give him an apology for it lol.
 
   
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Post #11: 16th Dec 2019 12:31 AM 
Curtis @ 16/12/2019 1:30
Buffy @ 16/12/2019 1:21
tchill13 @ 16/12/2019 1:20
so the mod regularly gives a break down of the game in this amount of detail? very neat.


Only when you play a Wikey/Buffy game. You just got lucky lol


Excuse me Boc and I unveil our FULL commentary in ATTWS!


Yeah, that was obviously my inspiration. I was just kidding!
 
   
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Post #12: 16th Dec 2019 1:43 AM 
I think my think with Lamps is that I've played games where he's mafia and I'm SK and he knows it and goes after me.. or he's SK and I'm mafia and he knows it and goes after me lol. I always want to kill him if I'm scum. My scum team doesn't always listen.
 
   
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