I don't know what most of these roles do, either. What does a town hero do, Nofo?

So there are 139 roles in that deck and 33 of us. This is gonna be fun. :P

Ari @ 13/1/2015 10:58

This is going to be fun! Lot of interesting roles in the shuffle. We could have 4 serial killers!

Yeah, I didn't notice any discarded killer roles at all. Shocker.

Paul discards Alien Psychomagnent

KC, I didn't see this role in the "full deck" list. Is it called something different?

Tony @ 13/1/2015 12:00

So many roles :X

Scum. ##lynch Tony

Christian, your role seems like it was pretty powerful.

Here's a list I found. I don't think all the roles are in it, but some of the weird ones I didn't know are.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cracking_Idea_Mafia/RolePMs

Kru @ 13/1/2015 12:24

Christian @ 13/1/2015 19:17 Also, the Vanillas. I get it. No special abilities makes the game less interesting for you. So there's got to be at least one of those people who opted to take a scum role instead. But it's all just speculation. We should definitely uses these lists as a guide, but I think they will be more helpful down the road. I would pick any role over vanilla any day. It's a no brainer that people would choose any town role over vanilla. There could also be some people that took a scum vanilla role over a powerful town role just for playing the alignment they want. It's totally random. :/

Yeah I agree and I think it's ridiculous of Christian to say that one of the people who discarded town vanilla must be mafia. With 139 possible roles that's reaching a lot. Not only do I not think you can boil it down that easily but, it doesn't even make any sense. I would be more inclined to think someone who discarded a mafia role may have had two to choose from. But again, so random and no way to tell.

JJ @ 13/1/2015 12:18

Here's a list I found. I don't think all the roles are in it, but some of the weird ones I didn't know are. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cracking_Idea_Mafia/RolePMs

Oh, I guess this link is better.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Greater_Idea_Mafia/RolePMs

Vic @ 13/1/2015 13:28

I don't even know most of these roles. The one I discarded I had never heard of before. Something to think about though: would the people that discarded a scum role (whether it be mafia or third party) only have the option to pick some other third party or mafia role? The reason I ask this is because it not, it could really mess up the balance if not. Like, if all of the people that discarded a mafia role picked a town role, would that mean we have very little scum to deal with? I'm not sure KC would do this because it might be predictable, but I don't see how the balance could be there if this were the case.

Sounds like something scum would want us to think.

##unlynch
##lynch Vic

Angi @ 13/1/2015 13:45

Interesting to see why someone would give up a cop role. Wonder what kind of role they kept ;)

That was a really weird thing to say. The only cop role I see was discarded was the town lover cop role, unless you're referring to something else? Who would keep a lover role?

Angi @ 13/1/2015 14:00

JJ @ 13/1/2015 13:56 Angi @ 13/1/2015 13:45 Interesting to see why someone would give up a cop role. Wonder what kind of role they kept ;) That was a really weird thing to say. The only cop role I see was discarded was the town lover cop role, unless you're referring to something else? Who would keep a lover role? Not sure why it's a weird thing to say. Why wouldn't someone keep a cop role, lover or not? Better than someone saying that those who gave up Vanilla must have chosen mafia lol

Because it says in the role that they would die when all other lovers die. I would never want that role.

Angi @ 13/1/2015 13:59

Thanks for the link JJ, can't find commuter and tourist though, can anyone tell me what those mean please.

Commuter can leave at night and all actions used against them will fail.
Tourist - Compulsively targets someone every night. No effect

Kru @ 13/1/2015 14:21

PORL @ 13/1/2015 21:12 Vic @ 13/1/2015 14:28 I don't even know most of these roles. The one I discarded I had never heard of before. Something to think about though: would the people that discarded a scum role (whether it be mafia or third party) only have the option to pick some other third party or mafia role? The reason I ask this is because it not, it could really mess up the balance if not. Like, if all of the people that discarded a mafia role picked a town role, would that mean we have very little scum to deal with? I'm not sure KC would do this because it might be predictable, but I don't see how the balance could be there if this were the case. It wouldn't affect the balance at all, because all the roles are listed anyway. It's not like learning what the roles do will make any difference to the game, they all seem to be typical mafia roles that you can look up in a wiki. There are a multitude of reasons why people would choose to discard a role. A powerful role is not always "fun" if it means more responsibility/pressure. I think to read anything concrete into that at this point on would be silly. Speaking of responsibility, I kind of find Trick's decision douchy to discard Enabler...

Why? Having that role means if Tricks is killed, whatever role he was enabling is disabled. I think enabler is a town hampering role.

Kru @ 13/1/2015 14:34

JJ @ 13/1/2015 21:24 Kru @ 13/1/2015 14:21 PORL @ 13/1/2015 21:12 Vic @ 13/1/2015 14:28 I don't even know most of these roles. The one I discarded I had never heard of before. Something to think about though: would the people that discarded a scum role (whether it be mafia or third party) only have the option to pick some other third party or mafia role? The reason I ask this is because it not, it could really mess up the balance if not. Like, if all of the people that discarded a mafia role picked a town role, would that mean we have very little scum to deal with? I'm not sure KC would do this because it might be predictable, but I don't see how the balance could be there if this were the case. It wouldn't affect the balance at all, because all the roles are listed anyway. It's not like learning what the roles do will make any difference to the game, they all seem to be typical mafia roles that you can look up in a wiki. There are a multitude of reasons why people would choose to discard a role. A powerful role is not always "fun" if it means more responsibility/pressure. I think to read anything concrete into that at this point on would be silly. Speaking of responsibility, I kind of find Trick's decision douchy to discard Enabler... Why? Having that role means if Tricks is killed, whatever role he was enabling is disabled. I think enabler is a town hampering role. And not existing means the person or people with the enabled roles become automatic vanilla(s). I would choose Enabler over anything if I wanted to be town.

It does? Do you mean in this particular set-up? I guess I never thought of that but if that's true it makes sense.