first DC movie I've been excited for since Nolan's trilogy tbh, looks good. And I'm a sucker for trailers with gr8 song choices like that

idk if I'm completely convinced but boy am I intrigued. I APPLAUD the risk they're taking with this (I mean, as much of a risk as a movie with the Joker can be)

tbf I can see the criticism of this possibly influencing the next round of mass shooters. Without having actually seen it the whole theme seems to be blaming society for pushing a poor misunderstood man to the brink, leaving him only to get his 'revenge' and burn it all down

...but I also don't see that as something to give the movie a negative review for, that's moreso something that should be left to the thinkpieces

Hupu @ 18/9/2019 14:04

:=]: i may not be as plugged into, like, incel eliot rodger-culture as i should be, but i cant imagine this movie will be the mass shooter bible people think. for one joaquin is just doing the master performance but plus like, adam sandler as the waterboy. and the gross joker hype hit critical mass with jared leto sending his suicide squad castmates used condoms.

idk, Taxi Driver inspired Hinckley and Ledger's Joker inspired the Aurora shooter, and this p much combines those two worlds. And that was before the current climate of mass shootings every few months

so this was something. King of Comedy it was NOT, but it still stood on its own well enough. Phoenix lives up to the hype for sure (tho I think I'll always be partial to Ledger's Joker as my fav performance)

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was actually surprised they leaned into the comic aspect as much as they did, was not expecting to see the Wayne murder AGAIN. That last shot of Bruce was p good, kinda makes me want to see a twenty years later follow-up to this now I definitely LIKED the movie overall, it's just a shame that it really could've been a masterpiece with Joaquin's performance if only it had a stronger script. It got way too on-the-nose most of the time, most obviously the "joke" on the late night show that spells out exactly what the movie's theme is. IN CASE YOU MISSED IT! And even minor stuff like the reveal that he actually didn't have a relationship with his neighbor, the "You're Arthur from down the hall, right?" line was really all that was needed but instead they had to show the whole clip show of her disappearing from every scene. Just felt pretty dumbed down for what they seemed to want to be a "serious"/"important" movie BUT ANYWAY YA it was good! Even though I feel like I don't have much more to point to than Phoenix's performance, but that alone was worth seeing this for and easily carried the whole thing. The plot beats were fairly predictable but it was well-executed, the direction itself was definitely solid

https://screenrant.com/joker-2-movie-writer-todd-phillips-return/

HMMMM

gonna be tough for him to write this one without the King of Comedy blueprint

wonder if he'll move onto a different Scorsese movie this time