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Boc
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| Post #1: 3rd Dec 2016 5:25 PM | |
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I can’t really talk much about the final episode. It’s a big hush-hush, under-wraps thing. I will say when I read it, my eyes rolled backwards in my head. It’s some of the best writing in whatever format ever. When the puzzle pieces come together, it’s like Oh, God. I was walking around my house for about an hour without saying a word with my mouth open. I think you’ll probably see a good deal of everybody in the finale. |
goddamn
just when I thought I couldn't get more hyped for this | |
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Boc
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| Post #2: 4th Dec 2016 11:00 PM | |
those last 5 minutes was some of my favorite TV ever. My god that was good
So much to unpack from this episode. I liked Maeve's storyline somewhat more, mostly because of the twist with this being Ford's idea all along. I wonder if her leaving the train was intentional though? It does fit with suffering being the biggest motivator for the hosts, but iirc the last part of her narrative was entitled "Mainland"
The Samurai World reveal did make me pretty excited, but I just hope it doesn't lessen the impact of Westworld and make everything that was going on there less special. But I'll assume that Nolan/Joy know what they're doing. I'm guessing we'll see Dolores breaking the hosts out and liberating those other worlds next season? Even if that's the case I'm still pretty curious how there's enough material for 5 seasons here | |
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| Post #3: 4th Dec 2016 11:02 PM | |
In the end, a character named Robert Ford gets shot in the back of the head. HOW FITTING. That had to be intentional | |
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| Post #4: 4th Dec 2016 11:08 PM | |
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"Felix, you are a terrible human."
Felix killed it tonight Cart I don't care WHAT you say!! |
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Wow. Unbelievable
That little robot arm movement dance he did when he saw Bernard was a host and questioned his own reality. You gotta give it up for Lutz there Cart. You GOTTA |
That was his only redeeming moment all season | |
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| Post #5: 5th Dec 2016 7:26 PM | |
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I think Maeve was definitely supposed to leave by whoever programmed her to (for whatever reason). Bernard said her goal was to head to the mainland so her turning back was proooobably off the script
Who do we think programmed her to leave and why? |
I was under the impression that that was Ford as well. Her escape coincided perfectly with Ford clearing out the host storage area, so it feels like that was an elaborate distraction
Only thing that makes me question it is that part where part of her narrative is in the mainland. Seems unnecessary to even have that step if she was JUST a distraction. But I guess it could've still been part of Ford's further plans and it's the one part that failed since she decided to turn back? OR her deciding to turn back was part of his plan, but wasn't scripted, because he said many times that suffering has been a key to the hosts' consciousness, so it could've been his way of giving her consciousness after she fulfilled her duty. Maybe a little farfetched though just because he would've had to know that the mom/daughter would be on the train and she would see them | |
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| Post #6: 5th Dec 2016 7:28 PM | |
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Do you think we'll get that look at SWorld in season two or was that just a throwaway world so audiences would know about the other parks? Will we see another world in season two, SWorld or otherwise? |
I definitely think we will. It'd be too much of a tease to go to the trouble of showing that if they weren't gonna show more worlds later | |
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| Post #7: 5th Dec 2016 7:33 PM | |
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| Post #8: 5th Dec 2016 9:47 PM | |
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I think I might have missed the post credit scene...what happened? |
The snake lady cuts off her hand to free herself from the door, then starts to charge at some oncoming guards | |
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| Post #9: 5th Dec 2016 9:49 PM | |
is the original movie worth watching? I'm thinking about watching that sometime during the long wait for S2. I've heard it's a lot more schlocky than this though | |
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| Post #10: 6th Dec 2016 7:56 PM | |
I dunno, I can see the reasoning behind Ford making that sacrifice. If it was just a host version of himself, then the choice that Dolores made would be a bit of a lie, since she thought she was pulling the trigger on a human. Killing a host would maybe be somewhat traumatic for her but at the same time, it's possible to repair a host, whereas shooting a human in the head is permanent. But I think the bigger point is that hosts aren't allowed to kill humans, but they can kill other hosts. So the fact that a host made a choice like that proves their consciousness without a doubt | |
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| Post #11: 6th Dec 2016 7:57 PM | |
I don't think a host version of Ford being still alive is out of the question tho | |
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| Post #12: 8th Dec 2016 8:22 PM | |
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Am I correct in saying Logan/Billy was the only story in the past? Everything else was present? |
All the conversations between Dolores and "Bernard" were set in the past since that was actually Arnold
Think that's it though | |
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| Post #13: 8th Dec 2016 8:23 PM | |
Wouldn't be surprised if Logan shows up later tbh, even if it's a future version of him | |
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| Post #14: 4th Feb 2017 1:20 AM | |
that always bothered me too. You'd think there'd be SOME record of one of the two founders of the park. Like assuming the internet still exists in this universe, it's hard to believe at least a few pictures of him wouldn't be floating out there | |
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| Post #15: 4th Feb 2017 11:31 PM | |
ah | |
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