HEY! WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA!

Wikey clearly looks like Environmental Mafia after yesterday. But I'd also say Herm does almost equally so. The way he immediately jumped on my bandwagon just because Wikey said to (with no actual reasoning behind it) looked very scummy. I could see Wikey/Herm being the last two Environmental mafiosos who wanted to last ditch try to save their poisoner because they could see the ship was sinking

I'll have to go back and see what they were saying during the Redster lynch day though, that could be telling

Hey Curt why are you so, unstumped

ok Wikey seems to confirmed scumbuddy if he wasn't already (: On Day 4 he actually goes for Lamps at first, but then backpedals and posts this:

Wikey

Lamps claimed Vanilla Cop, or at least something of the sort. Cool.

and then unlynches (:

Herm was actually pretty early on the Redster train so that makes me feel better about him

Boc @ 10/4/2016 17:59

Hermsworth @ 10/4/2016 17:52 Curtis said he could prove his role. like I said, it seems like a ploy to gain one more day. For all we know he'd just claim he got blocked tomorrow

hmmmmmm!!!!!!!

I honestly might put Curtis ahead of Wikey right now, since he'd have to be Raider mafia rather than Environmental, and they have more people right now

ah nice, Curtis is turning the Raider thing back around on me. It's clearly him. Again, I won't be surprised if he escapes it again. He already did yesterday and even served up an Environmental mafioso in the process, which will help him (because even if he's mafia at least he did the town a solid). But there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's him

I think one of the most glaring strikes against him yesterday was that he didn't bring up the likelihood of himself being blocked iirc. Not once, even after I brought it up. This is because he was clearly aiming to survive another day and figure it out then. Now that he has, he goes with the "well OBVIOUSLY I was gonna be blocked I should've seen it coming!!!" There's no way Town Curtis wouldn't have brought up that possibility yesterday

##lynch Curtis

I'm a mason vanilla, fyi

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:13

Because of that last line: "Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow." This seems like he knows Boc is scum and wanted to prove it to help himself out. This is really the ONLY explanation I can think of for not wanting to hardcore push everyone to lynch me over Lamps tbh. He went out of his way to defend Lamps and look scummy for a Boc lynch and there had to be a reason

the reason is he wanted to save Lamps. Why the FUCK would he have not brought it up earlier otherwise!!

He probably saw Lamps getting all the momentum and thought the only way to save him was to swing it back to me. I'm not totally sure why, but I don't think I was on at the time, and clearly you were so he probably thought that was the only chance for you to switch your vote. And possibly whoever else was on at the time

Christian @ 11/4/2016 22:26

and while you're here, Boc: if you weren't voting for Curtis, who would you be voting for (other than me)?

Wikey for sure. I'd vote for Wikey, Ari, and maybe even Vlad over you. If Vlad didn't come off as town-like as he has I'd think he's the Raider Godfather with how hard Curtis has been pushing for an Ari lynch. Still could be him though

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:27

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:23 ah nice, Curtis is turning the Raider thing back around on me. It's clearly him. Again, I won't be surprised if he escapes it again. He already did yesterday and even served up an Environmental mafioso in the process, which will help him (because even if he's mafia at least he did the town a solid). But there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's him I think one of the most glaring strikes against him yesterday was that he didn't bring up the likelihood of himself being blocked iirc. Not once, even after I brought it up. This is because he was clearly aiming to survive another day and figure it out then. Now that he has, he goes with the "well OBVIOUSLY I was gonna be blocked I should've seen it coming!!!" There's no way Town Curtis wouldn't have brought up that possibility yesterday ##lynch Curtis Of COURSE I thought of it If I had said "I will confirm myself tonight, but I might get blocked tbh", you would've said, "ah nice, Curtis already setting up the block excuse for the next day !!" DON'T DENY IT Had I discussed me being blocked as an option more, the chance of them blocking me would've grown and the chance of me looking fishier for it happening would've grown

I certainly would've!

But it was VERY likely either way, you pointing it out wouldn't have really changed much. And my main point is, if you were town you wouldn't have cared as much about how it could make you look. You'd want to talk out all possibilities imo, and not avoid bringing things like that up for fear of it making you look bad later

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:29

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:26 Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:13 Because of that last line: "Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow." This seems like he knows Boc is scum and wanted to prove it to help himself out. This is really the ONLY explanation I can think of for not wanting to hardcore push everyone to lynch me over Lamps tbh. He went out of his way to defend Lamps and look scummy for a Boc lynch and there had to be a reason the reason is he wanted to save Lamps. Why the FUCK would he have not brought it up earlier otherwise!! He probably saw Lamps getting all the momentum and thought the only way to save him was to swing it back to me. I'm not totally sure why, but I don't think I was on at the time, and clearly you were so he probably thought that was the only chance for you to switch your vote. And possibly whoever else was on at the time lol how does this make any sense. I was liked tied with Lamps with 10 minutes to go. The only person voting you was Wikey. He could've lynched me to push it within one of a tie. If he wanted to save Lamps that bad, all he had to do was vote for me but instead he chose to push it onto you because he banked on it helping him in the longer run

I honestly don't know then. But again, WHY would he have not brought it up way earlier if he had evidence against me. He's been wildly erratic (you pointed out an instance of it with Lamps earlier) so I don't even know how to rationalize anything he's doing

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 22:29

Oh. I forgot Town Doctor died. ## lynch Ari Maybe Curtis is actually town then?

explain plz

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:35

If I discussed the possibility of me being blocked that night then I would've been lynched and you know it. That would NOT be my ideal route! No one would've even heard me out yesterday. So yes, I did care about how it made me look because I knew I'd be getting lynched 100%

I wanted to lynch you partially for NOT bringing it up! It fed more into the whole thing being a ploy to survive another day, which obviously worked

lol I know no one's really been bringing it up too much besides Scum Wikey, but I kinda wanted to restate this cuz I feel like it's kinda been LOST in the shuffle!

Zook:
- wanted to commit genocide on all investigative roles
- said the words "We're not exactly town"
- acted SHIFTY about it when 317 and I called him out on it

I feel like a lot of people would've done the same in my shoes! I should've talked it out a LOT more with him before outing him, but I got needlessly EAGER about it because I thought I was on to something and wanted to drop the bombshell. Considering the new Vig would've been targeting all the investigators (I might've been able to talk him out of it, but he's extremely stubborn) I don't really regret it. Plus, part of the reason why I came out with it right away is because I thought there was a chance he could kill ME with his first kill if I kept confronting him on it on the private board, to shut me up. So if that were the case, making it public would've been the only move

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:39

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:37 Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:35 If I discussed the possibility of me being blocked that night then I would've been lynched and you know it. That would NOT be my ideal route! No one would've even heard me out yesterday. So yes, I did care about how it made me look because I knew I'd be getting lynched 100% I wanted to lynch you partially for NOT bringing it up! It fed more into the whole thing being a ploy to survive another day, which obviously worked So you wanted to lynch me for not bringing it up but also would've called me out for bringing it up and using it as an early excuse for if I didn't activate my role That is NOT fair!!!!!!!!!!!

I would've called you out but also would've felt slightly better about you compared to the alternative

I still doubt I would've unlynched you tho