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| Post #1: 18th Apr 2014 1:36 PM | |
o gud sounds like we're getting back to the fascinating Dany story | |
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| Post #2: 18th Apr 2014 2:06 PM | |
I really liked it in S1, but since then it's been pretty dull to me save for Dany firebombing Astapor. She's gotten SMUG and nothing seems to be much of a challenge lately. I think it'll be more interesting if/when she has some kind of setback/conflict rather than just steamrolling through Essos and liberating all the slaves
And honestly part of it too is how isolated she is from everything. All the stories in King's Landing/the war are usually the best because of all the overlap going on | |
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| Post #3: 18th Apr 2014 9:19 PM | |
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Isn't ADWD the most recent book? Unless GRRM writes another book I doubt they're going anywhere near the latest one |
I think I read somewhere that Theon's story on the show is currently into ADWD territory actually | |
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| Post #4: 18th Apr 2014 9:31 PM | |
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Also, can't take new Daario seriously. |
Every time they jump from Westeros to Essos during an episode they should change Daario's actor. I just remembered his golden tit swords from the book that he was always thumb fondling - that is another criminal cut they made for the show.
We want Belwas and golden tit swords, and we want them now!!! |
Doesn't he?
I dunno if new Daario has them but I don't see why he wouldn't | |
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| Post #5: 19th Apr 2014 12:18 AM | |
I dunno, considering seasons 1 and 2 managed to cover a book each, and they're only planning on 7-8 seasons currently, I don't see how they could spend that long on AFFC/ADWD. My guess is the next 2 seasons cover AFFC/ADWD, then season 7 is TWOW, and season 8 is ADOS. Though considering how huge the last two books are supposed to be, maybe they'll devote even more time than that to them | |
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| Post #6: 20th Apr 2014 11:45 PM | |
...ehh! I think that was easily the weakest of the season so far. I think it mostly just set up good things for the rest of the season, nothing really huge actually happened
Best parts were all of the Lannister stuff. Tywin and Tommen's conversation was gud. And uhh... what was with Jaime raping Cersei? It seems like they're quickly undoing all of the redeemable character development they gave Jaime last season and turning him into something even worse than his S1 self.
Tyrion's scene with Pod was good. That last line was so sad. I can't wait to see Tyrion's trial
Really don't care about the whole Wall situation right now tbh. Those scenes kinda bored me for the most part. Though I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the crows march on Craster's Keep and avenge Mormont
Hound/Arya was fun as usual. I think they're definitely gonna wind up in Braavos together. It'd seem way too anticlimactic for him to just dump her off with Aunt Lysa after all this
The ending at Meereen was...just about as dull as I was expecting! It honestly feels so repetitive right now. Though at least new Daario is growing on me a little bit, though I still don't think he fits the character as well as the first guy. Pissing on the ground to ASSERT HIS DOMINANCE was hilarious though | |
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| Post #7: 20th Apr 2014 11:47 PM | |
Oh and what's with Stannis getting back into the fray for the throne? Didn't Mel say that the throne doesn't mean shit at the end of last season because of the White Walker threat? Are they just putting that ON HOLD now? Or maybe I just misinterpreted that last season | |
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| Post #8: 20th Apr 2014 11:57 PM | |
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I choose to view the ending as Dany accidentally supplying the slavers with a lifetime supply of collars and chains for their slaves. GJ Dany |
lool yeah I was like, oh proof she saved the slaves
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shackles for the new slaves (: |
o tru | |
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| Post #9: 21st Apr 2014 12:17 AM | |
Do you think part of it was that the book was from Jaime's POV, so maybe he was a bit of an unreliable narrator?
It just seems like such a drastic change otherwise. I dunno how much control GRRM has over all the scripts but it seems weird that he'd let something like that by if it's so out of line with the books | |
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| Post #10: 21st Apr 2014 8:27 PM | |
GRRM on the rape scene:
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In the novels, Jaime is not present at Joffrey's death, and indeed, Cersei has been fearful that he is dead himself, that she has lost both the son and the father/ lover/ brother. And then suddenly Jaime is there before her. Maimed and changed, but Jaime nonetheless. Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her.
The whole dynamic is different in the show, where Jaime has been back for weeks at the least, maybe longer, and he and Cersei have been in each other's company on numerous occasions, often quarreling. The setting is the same, but neither character is in the same place as in the books, which may be why Dan & David played the sept out differently. But that's just my surmise; we never discussed this scene, to the best of my recollection.
Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.
If the show had retained some of Cersei's dialogue from the books, it might have left a somewhat different impression -- but that dialogue was very much shaped by the circumstances of the books, delivered by a woman who is seeing her lover again for the first time after a long while apart during which she feared he was dead. I am not sure it would have worked with the new timeline.
That's really all I can say on this issue. The scene was always intended to be disturbing... but I do regret if it has disturbed people for the wrong reasons. |
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