I lost a lot of interest when Guillermo Del Toro had to drop out. Instead of something potentially different we're just gonna get LotR 4 and 5. Not a bad thing, but I was excited to see what del Toro would have brought to the world since visually his style is unique.
sorta this. Del Toro's middle-earth would've been really interesting. I heard they at least kept a few of his script revisions and character designs though
The Hobbit is like half the length of ONE of the Lord of the Rings books. Each of those were ~3 hours and The Hobbit's gonna take like 8-9 hours to tell? wut.
I know they're gonna include some stuff from Tolkien's appendices/Silmarillion but still. I have a feeling these movies are gonna feel BLOATED
It's clear they have more story to tell than what's in the book, just like they did with LOTR.
lol wut? They cut out waaay more in LOTR than they added
TECHNICALLY each book in the LOTR trilogy is a combination of two books, so there's really SIX books in the LOTR trilogy that are about as long as The Hobbit. So if The Hobbit needs 3 movies to tell, then if LOTR was told at the same pace it would've taken... 18 movies. Which would've been ridiculous.
oh man. I was pretty underwhelmed by the first trailer but this looks much better. Though I do find it odd that the CGI doesn't really look any better than the LOTR movies even after 10 years (and with the budget being more than double). And it's also odd that it looks like Jackson is making some of the orcs CGI this time. They looked perfect when they were make-up on a human
First movie is 2 hours, 40 minutes. Not surprised, but I still can't fathom how they're gonna make ~9 hours worth of movie out of such a short book without it feeling ridiculously bloated
Wait ALL of the orcs are CGI now? Even the close-ups? Sigh...
A part of me wishes del Toro would've stayed onboard. I really like his animatronics/makeup for his creatures and it would've been really interesting to see his take on middle-earth
I think there's a HUGE difference between those two pictures you posted, Mal. The CGI one looks really dumb and not menacing at all.
And yes, I'm sure they mo-capped the orcs but: A. the point still remains that the actors aren't DIRECTLY interacting with the orcs like they were in LOTR and B. they can't go into nearly the same level of detail in the CGI for each character of a huge battle scene as opposed to a scene with just Gollum.
Besides, if Gollum WAS possible with just make-up, I think it would've been even more convincing if they did it that way in the original trilogy. But obviously it's impossible to make a human look like that. But it IS possible to make a human look like an orc, so replacing that with CGI is completely pointless and lazy.
It's not like I'm not gonna see it because of this, but it's just really disappointing. I'm not gonna go as far to say that it's like SW prequels vs. SW originals (effects-wise), because I realize he is at least still doing a lot of practical sets, but it's pretty much halfway there.
This is not about a reluctant hero drawing courage from some deep personal well. It's not about dread and danger. It's about visual effects.
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"The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" is not the worst film of the year, but it may be the most disappointing.
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I'm afraid that whoever it was in the New York Film Critics Circle who voted for "The Hobbit" as best animated film had a point. And so did the people who suspected that this whole thing was a bad idea.
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Tolkien's inventive, episodic tale of a modest homebody on a dangerous journey has been turned into an overscale and plodding spectacle.
Godfather II of course! And I thought Rise of the Planet of the Apes was pretty good, though I guess that's more of a reboot. And despite everyone constantly shitting on it I thought Prometheus was pretty decent
