tbh I think Roos might be the best target today. He was already a decent SK candidate after what Vernon said yesterday, and his surviving an attack just bolsters that. It's possible that he was doc-protected...but I dunno, I don't think it's too likely

Not that I'm discounting Angi's scan on Curtis. That's also a good lead, even though Curtis has acted fairly town-like (in his voting patterns anyway). But it IS Curtis, and he's good enough at this game that he'd throw his scumbuddies under the bus in order to look good. Still though, he's been QUITE aggressive in that case (: The Ari thing would really only fit if he was usurper, and as for the Rob lynch...I dunno, he was late enough on that train and there wasn't really any other big ones at that point.

BUT! Like I said, I think Roos might be the better candidate today, just because it'd eliminate a kill if he's SK. We can go for Curtis tomorrow if there's not a better lead (and possibly get some more info on him in the night).

ALSO!

If anyone roleblocked someone last night, it wouldn't be a bad time to claim honestly, since there's a very good chance you hit scum. Really the only other explanation is the mafia happened to block the SK, or there isn't an SK and the vig forwent their kill (unlikely), OR both the mafia and SK went for Roos (even more unlikely)

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 3:11

Also I'm completely not sure about the Curtis lynch. As I said previously he was the player most IN THE CLEAR as far as I'm concerned since he went after Ari the hardest. He could be SK, but do we have ANY indication of that at all?

Still on page 5 so someone might've already addressed this but, he still could easily be the usurper. If he's mafia, that's really the only role that'd make sense

Tom Brady @ 24/10/2013 9:54

Yeah, Angi scanning Curtis as scum doesn't prove he is the SK. I have never known a SK to scan as scum. Not really helping your case to be honest Roos :\

When I was SK I scanned as scum. Though I haven't seen that used before or since, so it might just be a Helios thing

Okay, caught up now.

##lynch Roos

Not buying it. I wouldn't put it past Korr to have a Jack like that tbh (although that's overpowered as fuck), but what throws me is Roos' claimed actions. They seem so convenient to me. Especially the Zersch scan where he JUST SO HAPPENED to die night 1.

Also I'm starting to think that a mafia roleblocker blocked the SK last night (since Vic was town roleblocker, we probably don't have any blocks left). If Roos flips SK, I'd keep an eye on who jumped on his train. If the mafia blocked him, they'd pretty much know for a fact that he's SK and would freely jump on his train to look good

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 11:38

Quote If Roos flips SK, I'd keep an eye on who jumped on his train And if Roos flips Town, keep an even closer eye on who jumped on his train.

(:

That's silly to me. Curtis is saying the same thing too. It just seems like something to deter people from further jumping on your train because they're afraid of being viewed as scum.

If you're really town, the mafia would, if anything, want to stay OFF your train as much as possible. If the town wants to lynch one of their own, the mafia has NO reason to intervene and get their hands dirty

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 24/10/2013 11:44

Quote If you're really town, the mafia would, if anything, want to stay OFF your train as much as possible. This is clearly BS. Mafia often capitalize on town suspecting one of their own. Especially if a townie doesn't have quite enough lynch votes, mafia will make up the numbers. Most of all if another suspect is mafia.

I do agree they will if one of their own is in danger (see: the Vic counter-train on D1). So if Curtis ends up being scum and you end up being town I'll definitely look at the people on your train.

But if you're both town, there's no reason why the mafia would be getting involved right now

Curtis @ 24/10/2013 11:51

I don't like that I was the #1 Townie in Russ' mind and then he did a 180 when his back was against the wall. And then he changed again, to me being SK which there's no evidence against at all. And since he claims to believe Angi's scan against me, there's evidence AGAINST me being SK!

I didn't mention this but this is definitely another reason why I'm finding Roos suspicious.

Not that Curtis is a bad suspect for today. But the fact that Roos flip-flopped when he was getting heat doesn't sit well with me. And THEN he brought up FF's claim again to try to push suspicion on Nofo even though FF pretty much nixed that earlier in the day when he said he targeted Nofo again and nothing happened.

TO ME it seems like he's bringing up all of the "obvious" targets to try to get heat off of him instead of who he's actually suspicious of

wait what. I didn't get that from his post. I think he was just saying that that proves that he suspected Zersch enough to scan him. Where does he say he came up as scum?

im317 @ 24/10/2013 12:35

Boc why was i unable to find you last night? with only 1 kill attempt last night and my not being able to find you i FOS Boc why could i not find you? could it be you were Jailed?

why were you looking for me!!!

I think I might know why actually. But I can't really explain without claiming

im317 @ 24/10/2013 12:37

Boc @ 24/10/2013 13:35 wait what. I didn't get that from his post. I think he was just saying that that proves that he suspected Zersch enough to scan him. Where does he say he came up as scum? you have to infer it. he says he scanned him and if he hadn't died he would have been his prime suspect day 2. why would someone he scanned as town be a prime suspect?

because he said that after Zersch flipped as cult leader?

I kinda see what you're saying but I don't think it has much to do with whether or not Roos scanned him.

Roos (4) henry, Wikey, Henry, Boc, Curtis, im317
Curtis (2) Angi, Lamps, Henry, Roos

im317 @ 24/10/2013 12:43

Boc why could i not find you last night?

Boc @ 24/10/2013 12:37

im317 @ 24/10/2013 12:35 Boc why was i unable to find you last night? with only 1 kill attempt last night and my not being able to find you i FOS Boc why could i not find you? could it be you were Jailed? why were you looking for me!!! I think I might know why actually. But I can't really explain without claiming

If you want me to fully claim I don't have many scruples with it tbh. My role can be sort of beneficial when hidden but not much.

tho savvy mafia players probably already can guess what it is anyway

Shawn @ 24/10/2013 15:05

I'm not buying anything Roos is saying. And if Curtis is mafia then he's doing a good job helping the town lynch important mafia members which doesn't make sense.

omg

scum bros sticking together amirite??