Hern @ 24/5/2017 21:54

I didn't arrive until after the Maddie train. So it happened because of a post Stephen made? I feel like we should look at the players pushing for that lynch.

I want to address this.

I unlynched Zach and said I wouldn't be back until 8:30 pm that evening to make an informed decision so of course I'm going to vote in the last few minutes? Like, I have to re-read everything and also catch up. At that time I read the discussion and decided Zach made the most sense to me as to who to vote because from what I read, the princess role only comes into play if the player is lynched -- not killed, which contradicts what Zach said. From there, the Maddie bandwagon happened and I was caught in the crossfires because of circumstance. I don't know if I inadvertently got Maddie lynched, or people were looking for an excuse to make that last minute switch.

Mercator @ 24/5/2017 22:13

Stephen @ 24/5/2017 19:03 Hern @ 24/5/2017 21:54 I didn't arrive until after the Maddie train. So it happened because of a post Stephen made? I feel like we should look at the players pushing for that lynch. I want to address this. I unlynched Zach and said I wouldn't be back until 8:30 pm that evening to make an informed decision so of course I'm going to vote in the last few minutes? Like, I have to re-read everything and also catch up. At that time I read the discussion and decided Zach made the most sense to me as to who to vote because from what I read, the princess role only comes into play if the player is lynched -- not killed, which contradicts what Zach said. From there, the Maddie bandwagon happened and I was caught in the crossfires because of circumstance. I don't know if I inadvertently got Maddie lynched, or people were looking for an excuse to make that last minute switch. Read the first line of the site you quoted (:

Fair. Admittedly, I read the body first rather than the first sentence. Believe me or not, that's a mistake I have to deal with henceforth. I still think the role makes more sense in this setup with the variation.

ZacharyB @ 24/5/2017 22:15

Y'all do realize it's the hosts that decide how the role works right? Not any site or how it's "usually done" ffs

It's my first game. What do you expect? I've never seen a princess role be played before, so all I have is to go off of what the average role is.

Primate @ 24/5/2017 22:26

Stephen has pushed the hardest for the Zach lynch.

I don't think I've pushed that hard. All I did was read what the evidence was yesterday, made my vote, and defended my actions yesterday. By no means is that pushing hard for Zach, that's responding to people and defending my actions.

Miko @ 25/5/2017 19:09

There is so much stuff working against Stephen at this point; and if Helios is indeed silenced, it wouldn't even surprise me that mafia did indeed do it so that they'd be rid of his superb analysis of game dynamics for a day. And in that case Stephen comes across as even more sketchy based off of the Helios quotes Badger sent.

I agree that Helios silenced does not look favourable for me, simply because he was so vocal towards me at the end of last round, but at the same time so was Merc. Regardless I came into today and defended my last minute Zach vote. If I were a silencer, I would not silence Helios as that's too obvious. I think Helios was silenced and the repercussion of that is it is to paint me in a bad light which can cause a mislynch and let the mafia survive unscathed.

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 19:21

Hey guys, I'm going to be in and out for the next couple of hours. I'm fully expecting to be lynched today, but hope that you all go after someone else. I think we can hit scum out of the "main suspects" pushed forward today. I'm going to put my vote on Stephen. Mostly everyone who has wagon'd me in the past two days has had pretty good logic (even if I disagree) except for him, so I think he's most likely to be the main scum pusher. ##lynch stephen I think merc is likely third party so wouldn't mind lynching him as well. But if you guys end up voting me then I understand and wish you all luck! Town's got this!

How does my logic differ from anyone else's? I mean I get why you would think that because a lot of it had to do with the role, but as I cleared up earlier it's a novice mistake and whether you're going to believe it or not, that's not my call. What I do know is regardless of everything, there's three kills last night and of which you weren't killed:

- Thisisbad bus drivers Badger and Rose. Rose's role flip talks about the fractional kill and the wiping of a role description, which I'm assuming was used on Curtis as he showed up with no role. This means that she did not have her fractional kill this round. I've looked up bus driving (here we go again) and correct me if I'm wrong. Can it be possible that the mafia killed Badger, and due to the bus driving it didn't go through as Badger and Rose's actions were flipped for the night. If this is the case, why the hell did they not kill you if you were the princess?

thisisbad @ 25/5/2017 20:56

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 18:51 TIB if you have ideas, you are one of the only people I trust right now. i really wish i did. i'm on nofo atm because he's barely playing. And i feel out of our inactives there is 1 or 2 mafia. Honestly that's why i switched you with Rose. But as far as where we should go...i dunno and i don't have enough time to read before deadline. I just don't have a real good feel for anyone outside of you and Angi

To be honest, Merc and Zach sold me on the reason not to vote Zach, especially if it's an anticipated kill. If he IS princess, at least in my opinion, it makes more sense to try to strong arm the mafia by not doing what they want? Idk. Patrick and DR were both mafia and practically invisible so it is possible that others are hiding in plain sight as well? so if people would be down for a lynch on an inactive I suppose I'd join if it can come to fruition in 4 minutes.