thisisbad @ 24/5/2017 21:58

The maddie train was frustrating to watch. And Zachs defense made no sense. First it means that mafia learned his role, and also had someone to broadcast something to frame him. But why Zach? Second, if that really was his role, they would have just killed him, not used some convoluted method to get him lynched.

Again, I have no idea if scum picked up on my role. I'm leaning more on the fact that I was just a random pick because as you all have said, it's unlikely that scum would come up with such a convoluted plan.

The fact that people are acting like I've been stating that that MUST be what happened is frustrating and a bit scummy, especially since I've stated from the beginning that I'm not confident that's what happened.

Y'all do realize it's the hosts that decide how the role works right? Not any site or how it's "usually done" ffs

I applaud Jamie/Christian for going against the ~meta~ even if it's screwing me over more than the role itself already did tbh!

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I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 14:01

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59 I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill. I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me. I tbought you clarified yesterday that your ability triggers on both lynches and kills?

Yeah it does. Sorry I wasn't clear, basically I'm saying y'all should lynch someone else and then just let the vig take care of me tonight. Either way my role is going to trigger, but at least if we lynch someone else today we might hit scum, whereas lynching me is just gonna be a ML.

That said, if y'all want to just lynch me today and get it over with, I agree that that's also going to yield some info and be a net positive to the town probably. But I think lynching someone else could get the town more information and still result in #PrincessGate being resolved.

vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:19

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59 I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill. I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me. Since a mafia tracker flipped and there could be a mafia watcher involved, I am very against this idea.

That's a good point. I dunno though, I feel like we've seen a lot of powerful mafia roles flip so far, so scum team having a watcher as well seems a bit OP??

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:33

vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:19 ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59 I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill. I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me. Since a mafia tracker flipped and there could be a mafia watcher involved, I am very against this idea. That's a good point. I dunno though, I feel like we've seen a lot of powerful mafia roles flip so far, so scum team having a watcher as well seems a bit OP??

Add onto this whatever strongman type role killed DS, the silencer, plus a potential traitor goon in im? IDK, I feel like it is not likely they have a tracker/watcher combo to go with it.

vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:55

Based on what you claimed, mafia get an additional free night either way. If you are lying and mafia, exposing our vig is not a good idea. If you are what you say, mafia get two nights either way, so i see no advantage in waiting until night.

Mafia gets a free additional night either way, yes, but if we lynch scum today it'll at least somewhat offset the extra day they get.

Lynching me today 100% results in a mislynch and scum getting an extra night. The only way lynching me could be advantageous is that it allows the vig to kill someone else, but there's no guarantee he hits scum.

Also I don't see how the vig killing me exposes him??

Angi @ 25/5/2017 14:59

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:10 BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 14:01 ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59 I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill. I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me. I tbought you clarified yesterday that your ability triggers on both lynches and kills? Yeah it does. Sorry I wasn't clear, basically I'm saying y'all should lynch someone else and then just let the vig take care of me tonight. Either way my role is going to trigger, but at least if we lynch someone else today we might hit scum, whereas lynching me is just gonna be a ML. And this is why I can't figure out why you're still alive

I'm probably alive because scum predicted I'd get lynched today, so why bother?

Or, like badger said, offing me is more advantageous later vs now.

And again, I totally understand if I'm lynched today since my role is inherently anti-town. But I'd rather aim for scum today.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 15:11

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 13:11 That said, if y'all want to just lynch me today and get it over with, I agree that that's also going to yield some info and be a net positive to the town probably. But I think lynching someone else could get the town more information and still result in #PrincessGate being resolved. I'm sorry for pushing so hard for your lynch, because I genuinely do enjoy playing with you (even now, when I'm suspicious of you, you're still pleasant to chat with). But I really think town has to lynch you, because Princess is a really bad role for town if you're telling the truth. And if you're note telling the truth, well then my reasons should be obvious :P.

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With the amount of mental gymnastics Merc is doing to try and get this reporter role to be distrusted (and yesterday he tried to directly lynch them), I'm thinking he may have been on that Chaos team with Spin or something. Maybe they are a group of lynchers whose targets were all different? And that is how they create chaos?

Is it possible that the lynchers only know what roles they have to lynch instead of players? If so this theory makes a lot of sense

I get your logic vlady. I still think a watcher is unlikely but maybe it's not worth the risk.